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Link Posted: 4/18/2023 11:00:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BillythePoet:
It's still amazing that the actual firearm component of Ruger MK pistols is practically disposable, but the grips are hens teeth, lol. Magpul could make a mint with polymer lowers.
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No shit...
Link Posted: 4/18/2023 12:00:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BillythePoet:
It's still amazing that the actual firearm component of Ruger MK pistols is practically disposable, but the grips are hens teeth, lol. Magpul could make a mint with polymer lowers.
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The MK4 takedown is patented. Something like the Tandemkross Kraken is the closest aftermarket option.
Link Posted: 4/18/2023 12:22:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Outrider:


The MK4 takedown is patented. Something like the Tandemkross Kraken is the closest aftermarket option.
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Originally Posted By BillythePoet:
It's still amazing that the actual firearm component of Ruger MK pistols is practically disposable, but the grips are hens teeth, lol. Magpul could make a mint with polymer lowers.


The MK4 takedown is patented. Something like the Tandemkross Kraken is the closest aftermarket option.


I need a Mk III frame so I can dual-wield my TACSOL and eventually chopped factory upper
Link Posted: 4/18/2023 3:26:24 PM EDT
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3-D print a lower?  I have a Mk 2 that needs a pistol grip, I should investigate.
Link Posted: 4/18/2023 5:30:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
3-D print a lower?  I have a Mk 2 that needs a pistol grip, I should investigate.
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To be fair, the "lower" is also where all the expensive parts are, so it's not shocking they're $$$ but year, seem a bit much!!!!
Link Posted: 4/18/2023 10:18:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Outrider:


The MK4 takedown is patented. Something like the Tandemkross Kraken is the closest aftermarket option.
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I didn't know this existed.


Originally Posted By BullpupFan:

To be fair, the "lower" is also where all the expensive parts are, so it's not shocking they're $$$ but year, seem a bit much!!!!
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Yeah, but if you're already installing grips and VQ trigger, why not buy a stripped lower?
Link Posted: 4/21/2023 7:01:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: arndog123] [#7]
Finally part of the Stubby club.  Just picked it up and installed a 507K dot.  The bolt is an upgraded Volquartsen unit.  It’s DLC coated and houses their firing pin and extractor.  Hopefully I’ll get to shoot it tomorrow.  Here it is next to my MKIV Target.


Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:03:28 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/24/2023 12:24:58 PM EDT
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That doesn't look like a rimfire pistol.
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 12:53:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/24/2023 7:54:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/25/2023 1:42:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher:


That doesn't look like a rimfire real pistol.
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Originally Posted By backbencher:


That doesn't look like a rimfire real pistol.

FIFY

Finest Photochop around
Link Posted: 5/6/2023 6:34:24 PM EDT
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MKIV Snubby I'm messing around with.

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Link Posted: 5/6/2023 9:16:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By aksahsalahs:
MKIV Snubby I'm messing around with.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101965/snubby_jpg-2808077.JPG
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I have got to know what those grips are, they look amazing.
Link Posted: 5/6/2023 10:21:06 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/7/2023 9:41:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By StraightMiataMan:


I have got to know what those grips are, they look amazing.
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It’s the Enhanced Systems sidewinder grip module. It can accept the FAB Cobra stock for Glock pistols, making it an SBR.

It’s actually pretty comfortable from a grip stand point, now to decide if I actually want to SBR a MKIV upper 😂
Link Posted: 5/8/2023 1:14:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By aksahsalahs:


It’s the Enhanced Systems sidewinder grip module. It can accept the FAB Cobra stock for Glock pistols, making it an SBR.

It’s actually pretty comfortable from a grip stand point, now to decide if I actually want to SBR a MKIV upper 😂
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I'm not interested in SBR'ing mine, they just look really comfortable. Thanks!
Link Posted: 5/18/2023 4:01:19 PM EDT
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Where is everyone getting their barrels shortened for the Ruger pistols?
Link Posted: 5/18/2023 6:35:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FMRMARINE41:
Where is everyone getting their barrels shortened for the Ruger pistols?
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I emailed Morgan at https://class3machining.com/ in early March and he replied with:

Can cut, crown and thread it for 90 if just upper is sent.

Then just include a prepaid return label, most of my customers use pirateship.com

5-7 business day turnaround


I think I need to get my butt in gear and mail him my OEM upper for a chop.
Link Posted: 5/19/2023 1:19:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FMRMARINE41:
Where is everyone getting their barrels shortened for the Ruger pistols?
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He's not doing them right now but I had mine done by D.Wilson.

No experience with them, but MK3 Firearms work looks good.
Link Posted: 5/19/2023 11:25:40 PM EDT
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Is there a reason why D. Wison and a lot of others stopped doing it?
Link Posted: 5/20/2023 12:30:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: aksahsalahs] [#22]
Pretty sure D.Wilson stopped due to the time involved in machine setup and work.

The barrel to receiver tolerances are pretty loosey-goosey which makes it more difficult to thread the barrel when it’s not square/true to the receiver.

He posted a video on the run out once, it was pretty wild.

Edit:  video is back on page 6.
Link Posted: 5/20/2023 1:39:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FMRMARINE41:
Is there a reason why D. Wison and a lot of others stopped doing it?
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Money. Same reason Morgan from class three stopped doing anything other than threading. Anyone who is good has more work than they know what to do with so they focus on higher profit stuff usually. I think it was D Wilson who did the one I want by machining the barrel stub so the can directly threaded onto it(might have been someone else). Really clean setup and gave you the max barrel length without adding OAL.
Link Posted: 6/13/2023 8:39:06 PM EDT
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Does anyone know how often Volquartsen releases their 3.5” MkIV uppers? I missed the one that popped up in the EE
Link Posted: 6/13/2023 10:45:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FMRMARINE41:
Is there a reason why D. Wison and a lot of others stopped doing it?
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Two reasons really.

The first is because they are somewhat challenging and time consuming to do correctly. When you cut them really short like 2.1" or so, you have to hold the receiver in the chuck. Since the barrels never seem to be threaded into the receiver straight, you have to be able to correct for axial and radial runout when you indicate them in. I have a pretty specialized ($4-5K) lathe chuck to be able to do them.

The second and bigger reason is the customers. You would not believe the petty crap that people whine about with these Ruger's. It's literally the biggest PSO pot metal mass produced .22 LR pistol. It's a piece of shit, but people think they are buying a damn Holland and Holland with their grandma's last dollar. It's a short .22 that you can expect soda can accuracy at 10 yards.


Link Posted: 6/13/2023 10:54:13 PM EDT
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Here's a video showing how sloppy these things are (for some reason I can't imbed a youtube short)

https://youtube.com/shorts/ovkxwRvcnv4?feature=share


Link Posted: 6/14/2023 7:54:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By unclemoak:
Here's a video showing how sloppy these things are (for some reason I can't imbed a youtube short)

https://youtube.com/shorts/ovkxwRvcnv4?feature=share


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@unclemoak

Video is set to private when I click the link.

Sent you a PM
Link Posted: 6/14/2023 9:23:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By unclemoak:

Two reasons really.

The first is because they are somewhat challenging and time consuming to do correctly. When you cut them really short like 2.1" or so, you have to hold the receiver in the chuck. Since the barrels never seem to be threaded into the receiver straight, you have to be able to correct for axial and radial runout when you indicate them in. I have a pretty specialized ($4-5K) lathe chuck to be able to do them.

The second and bigger reason is the customers. You would not believe the petty crap that people whine about with these Ruger's. It's literally the biggest PSO pot metal mass produced .22 LR pistol. It's a piece of shit, but people think they are buying a damn Holland and Holland with their grandma's last dollar. It's a short .22 that you can expect soda can accuracy at 10 yards.

https://i.imgur.com/3TDmfof.jpg
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So sorry to hear this.  Some people could fuck up a wet dream.
Link Posted: 6/14/2023 10:36:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


@unclemoak

Video is set to private when I click the link.

Sent you a PM
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Video set to public now.
Link Posted: 6/14/2023 10:40:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By unclemoak:

Video set to public now.
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


@unclemoak

Video is set to private when I click the link.

Sent you a PM

Video set to public now.


Wow...I'm not a machinist, but those little needles bouncing all over leads me to believe these things are pretty far from "straight and true" from the factory
Link Posted: 6/14/2023 5:26:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By unclemoak:

Two reasons really.

The first is because they are somewhat challenging and time consuming to do correctly. When you cut them really short like 2.1" or so, you have to hold the receiver in the chuck. Since the barrels never seem to be threaded into the receiver straight, you have to be able to correct for axial and radial runout when you indicate them in. I have a pretty specialized ($4-5K) lathe chuck to be able to do them.

The second and bigger reason is the customers. You would not believe the petty crap that people whine about with these Ruger's. It's literally the biggest PSO pot metal mass produced .22 LR pistol. It's a piece of shit, but people think they are buying a damn Holland and Holland with their grandma's last dollar. It's a short .22 that you can expect soda can accuracy at 10 yards.

https://i.imgur.com/3TDmfof.jpg
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@unclemoak How do I get one of those POS uppers?!
Link Posted: 6/14/2023 11:42:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By unclemoak: Here's a video showing how sloppy these things are (for some reason I can't imbed a youtube short)

https://youtube.com/shorts/ovkxwRvcnv4?feature=share
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Axial and radial runout on a Ruger MKIV
Link Posted: 6/15/2023 8:08:32 PM EDT
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Some uppers ready to go from dwilson.

https://www.dwilsonmfg.com/search.asp?keyword=Ruger
Link Posted: 11/1/2023 7:42:17 AM EDT
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Volquartzen came out with the 3” Mini Scorpion.
Pistol
or Upper only
Link Posted: 1/24/2024 8:34:14 PM EDT
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I keep putting this project on the back burner. Time to find someone who will cut and thread one short for me.
Link Posted: 1/24/2024 8:37:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bklyn_Irish:
I keep putting this project on the back burner. Time to find someone who will cut and thread one short for me.
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D.Wilson is up an running them again.
Link Posted: 1/24/2024 8:44:36 PM EDT
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D.Wilson is up an running them again.
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Link Posted: 1/24/2024 9:16:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Plumber576:


D.Wilson is up an running them again.
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Originally Posted By Bklyn_Irish:
I keep putting this project on the back burner. Time to find someone who will cut and thread one short for me.


D.Wilson is up an running them again.


Outstanding!
Link Posted: 1/24/2024 9:27:52 PM EDT
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Outstanding!
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Originally Posted By Plumber576:
Originally Posted By Bklyn_Irish:
I keep putting this project on the back burner. Time to find someone who will cut and thread one short for me.


D.Wilson is up an running them again.


Outstanding!


Might be time for me to send my factory MK III upper in.

ETA: order placed. Now to box up the OEM upper and get it to Mr. Wilson. Figure my TAC SOL threaded upper will hit the EE once I have the little guy in hand.
Link Posted: 1/24/2024 9:43:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Plumber576:


D.Wilson is up an running them again.
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This is great news.  Man is a wizard with these.
Link Posted: 1/24/2024 9:48:20 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/24/2024 10:28:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Norinco982lover:
Dang it, mine is tapered I gotta find another upper.

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MKIV?

https://volquartsen.com/inventory_configurations/4954?clearance=1
Link Posted: 1/24/2024 11:23:20 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/25/2024 8:46:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Plumber576:

D.Wilson is up an running them again.
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Just got mine back a few days ago...



I think I'm going to get it cerakoted
Link Posted: 1/25/2024 9:11:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ScottS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEPSae6nr_8

AAC Element II.  Fed Bulk Pak 36gr

Don't tell my wife.  She's in the family room, and what she doesn't know/can't hear, can't hurt me.
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I love my Element II. It spends most of its time on a Subcal smg kit.
Link Posted: 1/25/2024 11:50:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By unclemoak:

It greatly depends on what ammo is used.

https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e398/unclemoak/Photo%20Mar%2011%2012%2016%2001%20PM.jpg

Standard bulk pack yields about
https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e398/unclemoak/Photo%20Mar%2011%2012%2003%2001%20PM.jpg

Aguila Super Colibri's yields about
https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e398/unclemoak/Photo%20Mar%2011%2012%2015%2053%20PM.jpg


As for moving the front sight, the standard front sight can be cut down in height, shortened front to back, and moved back to the scope mount hole on the receiver.

https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e398/unclemoak/Photo%20Mar%2011%2010%2051%2059%20AM.jpg

This one still needs a little trimming to the front to be flush with the front of the receiver.
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Excellent post!  Velocity is quite acceptable.

I could only wish I had the scope mount holes that come with the newer guns.  This was a bolt on solution using the dovetail groove, with a Riton RDS:



I traded a Taurus for it and had Gem-Tech thread it a long time ago.
Link Posted: 2/18/2024 8:49:05 PM EDT
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I dropped $40 otd on a 5.5 from wirthwein and a friend cut,thread and crowned at 3inch. love it.

so quiet
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 8:51:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By LUZCANNON:
I dropped $40 otd on a 5.5 from wirthwein and a friend cut,thread and crowned at 3inch. love it.

so quiet
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That wirthwein site is great, thanks for mentioning it as I've never heard of them before.
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 1:03:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BillythePoet:



That wirthwein site is great, thanks for mentioning it as I've never heard of them before.
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They're good people, too.  Great customer service.
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 4:08:19 PM EDT
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Well, I sent my OEM Mk III upper to D Wilson to have cut down, but USPS somehow did this, so I’m not sure what my next steps will be.

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Currently have a claim in for $350 replacement cost.
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