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Posted: 9/9/2020 10:14:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pachucko: So Stubby owners... Anyone wish they had chosen a bit longer barrel? I like the look of the 2/2.1 but I'm thinking I should go with 2.5 or so. Why? |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:27:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: backbencher]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Why? My 101 would be nicer to shoot w/ another 1" of weight on the muzzle. ETA: Nvm. Got this thread mixed up w/ the snubby thread. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:55:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Why? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By Pachucko: So Stubby owners... Anyone wish they had chosen a bit longer barrel? I like the look of the 2/2.1 but I'm thinking I should go with 2.5 or so. Why? Kinda want my 5.5" cut to around 3", to keep it long enough for a pic rail and light |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:57:26 PM EDT
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I’m going to turn my tapered barrel into a flush stubby. The rest will be 3.5”-4” if I chop them. Should keep bulk pack subsonic still.
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Posted: 9/10/2020 2:19:55 AM EDT
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What kind of groups do you guys get with these things?
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Posted: 9/10/2020 9:17:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ScottS]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DvlDog: What kind of groups do you guys get with these things? I posted this before, but this is 10 yards, Fed Suppressor Ammo, before I had sights. I was just "guestimating" a hold and looking for a group.  Attached FileNow that I have sights, I'm squarely on target at 15 yards (longest I've shot so far). |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 11:20:41 AM EDT
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I sent a MKIV to Dwilson a few weeks ago. Going 3.5" on it. This will give me MKIVs in 2.75", 3.5", and 4.5" flavors plus the integral Paclite TSS. I'll try and get a group shot when it's back for comparison sake.
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Posted: 9/10/2020 11:55:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: I sent a MKIV to Dwilson a few weeks ago. Going 3.5" on it. This will give me MKIVs in 2.75", 3.5", and 4.5" flavors plus the integral Paclite TSS. I'll try and get a group shot when it's back for comparison sake. I look forward to seeing that. |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 4:38:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScottS: Hahaha. Not yet. He got it late last week. How do you get him to respond so quick? Took over a week to reply that I wanted mine changed. He said I should buy a spacer, something I specifically mentioned I don't want to do. I asked if I can send it back and crickets. Annoying. If you guys aren't doing a full chop it's probably worth it to buy an upper from Volquartsen. Here's their 3.5" chopped upper for $140 |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 5:24:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: How do you get him to respond so quick? Took over a week to reply that I wanted mine changed. He said I should buy a spacer, something I specifically mentioned I don't want to do. I asked if I can send it back and crickets. Annoying. If you guys aren't doing a full chop it's probably worth it to buy an upper from Volquartsen. Here's their 3.5" chopped upper for $140 That's an outstanding deal, IF you already have a MKIV. I'd jump, but my entire logistics train (mags, etc.) is MKII/III. |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 5:46:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: How do you get him to respond so quick? Took over a week to reply that I wanted mine changed. He said I should buy a spacer, something I specifically mentioned I don't want to do. I asked if I can send it back and crickets. Annoying. If you guys aren't doing a full chop it's probably worth it to buy an upper from Volquartsen. Here's their 3.5" chopped upper for $140 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Originally Posted By ScottS: Hahaha. Not yet. He got it late last week. How do you get him to respond so quick? Took over a week to reply that I wanted mine changed. He said I should buy a spacer, something I specifically mentioned I don't want to do. I asked if I can send it back and crickets. Annoying. If you guys aren't doing a full chop it's probably worth it to buy an upper from Volquartsen. Here's their 3.5" chopped upper for $140 It's not like I just sit around and answer emails all day 
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Posted: 9/10/2020 6:44:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unclemoak: It's not like I just sit around and answer emails all day Point taken. It just seems like OP and I are in the same boat and he's been better at getting replies. |
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Posted: 9/11/2020 10:33:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unclemoak: It's not like I just sit around and answer emails all day Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unclemoak: Originally Posted By Plumber576: Originally Posted By ScottS: Hahaha. Not yet. He got it late last week. How do you get him to respond so quick? Took over a week to reply that I wanted mine changed. He said I should buy a spacer, something I specifically mentioned I don't want to do. I asked if I can send it back and crickets. Annoying. If you guys aren't doing a full chop it's probably worth it to buy an upper from Volquartsen. Here's their 3.5" chopped upper for $140 It's not like I just sit around and answer emails all day Maybe a drop down choice or disclaimer would help with thread length? I'm going to shoot you an email looking for the rimfire length on my chop if it hasn't been done already. |
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Posted: 9/11/2020 1:31:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: Maybe a drop down choice or disclaimer would help with thread length? I'm going to shoot you an email looking for the rimfire length on my chop if it hasn't been done already. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: Originally Posted By unclemoak: Originally Posted By Plumber576: Originally Posted By ScottS: Hahaha. Not yet. He got it late last week. How do you get him to respond so quick? Took over a week to reply that I wanted mine changed. He said I should buy a spacer, something I specifically mentioned I don't want to do. I asked if I can send it back and crickets. Annoying. If you guys aren't doing a full chop it's probably worth it to buy an upper from Volquartsen. Here's their 3.5" chopped upper for $140 It's not like I just sit around and answer emails all day Maybe a drop down choice or disclaimer would help with thread length? I'm going to shoot you an email looking for the rimfire length on my chop if it hasn't been done already. I did just add that to the website. Since there seems to be some confusion. 0.5" is the standard thread length for rimfire cans. It's odd that a suppressor manufacturer would deviate from this and make a can that only works with 0.4" threads. I know Dead Air makes a spacer for this, but why not just make the can work with 0.5"?? https://deadairsilencers.com/product/mask-hd-12x28-spacer/ |
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Posted: 9/11/2020 2:14:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Plumber576]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unclemoak: I did just add that to the website. Since there seems to be some confusion. 0.5" is the standard thread length for rimfire cans. It's odd that a suppressor manufacturer would deviate from this and make a can that only works with 0.4" threads. I know Dead Air makes a spacer for this, but why not just make the can work with 0.5"?? https://deadairsilencers.com/product/mask-hd-12x28-spacer/ I'll be the first to admit I did some ASSuming when ordering my chop and thread. I'd seen the work done and really wanted it, specifically for my MK IV and the SiCo Spectre II. I even saw pic of your work with the Spectre II and it looked great. I knew there are different lengths and cuts for threads and I didn't ask in my rush and excitement to have it done. I should have and that's on me. My 15-22 has AR-15 length threads. The SilencerCo and Dead Air spacer are perfect for that, the spacer is the diameter of an AR barrel. It looks very weird on a Mk IV. I measured some other threaded .22's. Ruger Mk IV Lite factory thread length = 0.408" TacSol 10/22 threaded barrel = 0.411" D.Wilson Chop and thread = 0.507" S&W 15-22 w/SiCo spacer = 0.375" S&W 15-22 w/o spacer = 0.620" |
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Posted: 9/11/2020 3:04:39 PM EDT
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It blows my mind in this day and age that they haven’t gone to basic standards for stuff like threads.
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Posted: 9/11/2020 9:27:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Why? Not 100% sure, can't put my finger on it, something just bothers me about going that short.... It won't matter for aesthetics in my case. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 4:10:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ScottS:  Nice...I did the same with my Buckmark: 
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Posted: 9/12/2020 4:57:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Point taken. It just seems like OP and I are in the same boat and he's been better at getting replies. I don't want to rub salt in the wound, but mine will be back on Monday. I'll post pics. |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 3:20:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ScottS]
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My baby's back!
 Attached FileDave faced it beautifully at .408". The machine work on the muzzle is flawless. How could anyone not want one of these?  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 3:38:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScottS: My baby's back! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/19800/IMG_9075_JPG-1593005.JPG Dave faced it beautifully at .408". The machine work on the muzzle is flawless. How could anyone not want one of these? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/19800/IMG_9077_JPG-1593006.JPG Looks good! |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 4:37:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScottS: My baby's back! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/19800/IMG_9075_JPG-1593005.JPG Dave faced it beautifully at .408". The machine work on the muzzle is flawless. How could anyone not want one of these? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/19800/IMG_9077_JPG-1593006.JPG It does look good. I have another spare MKIV upper I bought on the cheap I should chop that short. This would give me pretty much everything from 2"-4.5". Dave says mine has been chopped but I'm waiting on black Cerakote refinish. That standard Ruger finish is bleh. |
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Posted: 9/18/2020 6:37:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Please share results! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Originally Posted By NWRed: I just bought a $9/shipped 1911 rail off ebay to test the idea out. We'll see when it shows up from China.  Please share results! @Plumber576 Couple mins with a razorknife and it fits, however its sloppy without shimming the frame and currently there's nothing to stop it from rotating downwards. It's doable but needs some modifications and tweaking.  
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Posted: 9/18/2020 7:07:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NWRed: @Plumber576 Couple mins with a razorknife and it fits, however its sloppy without shimming the frame and currently there's nothing to stop it from rotating downwards. It's doable but needs some modifications and tweaking. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/2830/o0DB44.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/6522/slWae2.jpg Very interesting... Thanks for sharing! |
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Posted: 9/19/2020 2:29:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Very interesting... Thanks for sharing! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Originally Posted By NWRed: @Plumber576 Couple mins with a razorknife and it fits, however its sloppy without shimming the frame and currently there's nothing to stop it from rotating downwards. It's doable but needs some modifications and tweaking. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/2830/o0DB44.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/6522/slWae2.jpg Very interesting... Thanks for sharing! Just occurred to me a ring around the barrel, as per the Streamlight shotgun mount we discussed previously, would secure it from moving around. |
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Posted: 9/25/2020 4:11:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: It's yours so do what you want. Before I started aiming to build a stubby I had a MkIV lite 22/45 and a MkII Target. The lite can't be chopped and I decided to keep the MkII stock. So I bought a MkIV target upper for $40 and a spare complete bolt for $30. MkIV is so easy to take down and with the short barrel suppressed I bet it'll need good cleaning after each range session. New upper and bolt are tested and now just waiting to find the right place to have mine chopped. Where did you get a complete bolt for $30? |
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Posted: 9/25/2020 1:53:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MDStroup: Where did you get a complete bolt for $30? Volquartsen sells them on eBay regularly. I think they buy pistols from Ruger and sell pretty much everything but the frame. You can get bolts for $30 and barreled/uppers for like $30-$60. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 6:07:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: Volquartsen sells them on eBay regularly. I think they buy pistols from Ruger and sell pretty much everything but the frame. You can get bolts for $30 and barreled/uppers for like $30-$60. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: Originally Posted By MDStroup: Where did you get a complete bolt for $30? Volquartsen sells them on eBay regularly. I think they buy pistols from Ruger and sell pretty much everything but the frame. You can get bolts for $30 and barreled/uppers for like $30-$60. That is epic!! Do you have a link to their page? Haven't been able to find anything. Could use a bolt as I have been debating buying one of the uppers they sell. Want to see if I can design a 3d printed lower. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 9:19:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Pachucko]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MDStroup: That is epic!! Do you have a link to their page? Haven't been able to find anything. Could use a bolt as I have been debating buying one of the uppers they sell. Want to see if I can design a 3d printed lower. I believe they're vfcloseouts. https://www.ebay.com/str/vfcloseouts |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 1:25:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MDStroup: That is epic!! Do you have a link to their page? Haven't been able to find anything. Could use a bolt as I have been debating buying one of the uppers they sell. Want to see if I can design a 3d printed lower. Happy to test one for you. Have a complete bbl bbl upper just sitting here, picked it up cheap @ a gun show. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 3:17:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: If you guys aren't doing a full chop it's probably worth it to buy an upper from Volquartsen. Here's their 3.5" chopped upper for $140 From the link above: We cut the barrel to 3.5”, thread it ½ x 28 TPI, and reinstall the factory Ruger® front sight and our Tritium Adjustable Rear Sight. I'm trying to wrap my head around why they'd add tritium rears to a standard front. Any idea? |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 5:25:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Outrider]
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Suppressed MKIV addict here! Got my chop back from dwilson. Cerakote makes these uppers look so much better IMO. For comparison's sake:
-Paclite TSS Integral -Madd Macs XBAR 4.5" with RMR -MKIV chopped to 3.5" -MKIV chopped to about 3" with Burris Fastfire 3  4.5" with Element 2 and 3" with El Camino  3.5" and 3"  Integral vs. 3.5" with Element 2   And the newest upper with a Vortex Venom installed in Madd Macs mount.  |
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Posted: 10/4/2020 1:02:34 AM EDT
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Awesome collection.
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Posted: 10/4/2020 8:51:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: Suppressed MKIV addict here! Got my chop back from dwilson. Cerakote makes these uppers look so much better IMO. For comparison's sake: -Paclite TSS Integral -Madd Macs XBAR 4.5" with RMR -MKIV chopped to 3.5" -MKIV chopped to about 3" with Burris Fastfire 3 https://i.imgur.com/RfPxWni.jpg 4.5" with Element 2 and 3" with El Camino https://i.imgur.com/6rgflZs.jpg 3.5" and 3" https://i.imgur.com/DRi3Sl9.jpg Integral vs. 3.5" with Element 2 https://i.imgur.com/OP22UDm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zSvhgiu.jpg And the newest upper with a Vortex Venom installed in Madd Macs mount. https://i.imgur.com/21Nt0fx.jpg We really need a "LIKE" button on this forum. That's really incredible. |
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Posted: 10/4/2020 10:34:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: patw]
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It looks very HK P7ish,I like it.
That is one heck of a collection Outrider. I wish I got into the silencer/suppressor idea years ago. |
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Posted: 10/4/2020 11:24:50 AM EDT
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Thanks for the comments. I’m a suppressor addict, especially when it comes to rimfire. These Ruger pistols make great hosts with their ease of takedown and the Volquartsen Accurizing kit makes them feel great.
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Posted: 10/15/2020 1:32:50 PM EDT
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Just got my upper back from D.Wilson with the thread length shortened and it's perfect now. Have some VQ guts to go in it, still need to get the right trigger, some new grips, and a Tandemkross safety. It'll also eventually get some paint.
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Posted: 10/15/2020 2:15:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Just got my upper back from D.Wilson with the thread length shortened and it's perfect now. Have some VQ guts to go in it, still need to get the right trigger, some new grips, and a Tandemkross safety. It'll also eventually get some paint. https://i.imgur.com/8jSP5e5l.jpg Looks great! I think I need to get one chopped that short as well. I've got everything else covered. |
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Posted: 10/15/2020 2:43:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Plumber576]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: Looks great! I think I need to get one chopped that short as well. I've got everything else covered. Do it. I completely recommend D.Wilson Mfg., the work is great. I had the sights moved and I purchased a low profile red dot mount from Lobos Industries but I think I'll put that on my Lite upper and keep this one with irons for now. If you aren't planning on using irons and want to go red dot only right now Volquartsen has bare MkIV uppers for $25. |
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Posted: 10/15/2020 2:47:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Do it. I completely recommend D.Wilson, the work is great. I had the sights moved and I purchased a low profile red dot mount from Lobos Industries but I think I'll put that on my Lite upper and keep this one with irons for now. If you aren't planning on using irons and want to go red dot only right now Volquartsen has bare MkIV uppers for $25. He recently chopped one of those clearance uppers for me to 3.5" I believe and cerakoted (a couple of posts up). It turned out great. I've got another clearance upper that I just need to chop all the way. I wanted the Paclite integral to fulfill that "OSS HDMS" desire but I am disappointed in the performance. A super chopped MKIV with Element 2 may be the ticket. |
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Posted: 10/15/2020 3:19:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Do it. I completely recommend D.Wilson Mfg., the work is great. I had the sights moved and I purchased a low profile red dot mount from Lobos Industries but I think I'll put that on my Lite upper and keep this one with irons for now. If you aren't planning on using irons and want to go red dot only right now Volquartsen has bare MkIV uppers for $25. Agree all around on Dave Wilson. Excellent work and fast turn. |
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Posted: 10/15/2020 3:32:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScottS: Agree all around on Dave Wilson. Excellent work and fast turn. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScottS: Originally Posted By Plumber576: Do it. I completely recommend D.Wilson Mfg., the work is great. I had the sights moved and I purchased a low profile red dot mount from Lobos Industries but I think I'll put that on my Lite upper and keep this one with irons for now. If you aren't planning on using irons and want to go red dot only right now Volquartsen has bare MkIV uppers for $25. Agree all around on Dave Wilson. Excellent work and fast turn. Thanks  We try to have all around good service, sometimes things take a little longer on occasion, but that's can happen with any business. |
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Posted: 10/16/2020 5:27:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: He recently chopped one of those clearance uppers for me to 3.5" I believe and cerakoted (a couple of posts up). It turned out great. I've got another clearance upper that I just need to chop all the way. I wanted the Paclite integral to fulfill that "OSS HDMS" desire but I am disappointed in the performance. A super chopped MKIV with Element 2 may be the ticket. How do you find the clearance section on their site?  (And yes, I've looked / searched.  )
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Posted: 10/16/2020 6:08:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ALASKANFIRE]
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Originally Posted By Pachucko: How do you find the clearance section on their site? (And yes, I've looked / searched. )If you go to their homepage they have a bunch of categories listed including clearance. I don't know if there's another way to get there it's obviously not the best website. One cool thing they do is that when you are looking at an individual item they will tell you if there is a clearance version in stock. They also sell stuff on Ebay. Here's a link https://volquartsen.com/clearance Ebay Store |
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Posted: 10/17/2020 9:11:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: If you go to their homepage they have a bunch of categories listed including clearance. I don't know if there's another way to get there it's obviously not the best website. One cool thing they do is that when you are looking at an individual item they will tell you if there is a clearance version in stock. They also sell stuff on Ebay. Here's a link https://volquartsen.com/clearance Ebay Store Thank you. I don't know how I missed that. 
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Posted: 10/17/2020 1:35:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pachucko: Thank you. I don't know how I missed that. Because nobody messes around on the homepage and if you go looking for it in their store or normal links I am not even sure you can get there. |
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Posted: 10/18/2020 2:50:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unclemoak: Thanks We try to have all around good service, sometimes things take a little longer on occasion, but that's can happen with any business. I am anxiously awaiting mine!! |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 4:57:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Plumber576]
[#48]
Well it's a shooter. No issue stabilizing CCI SV.
Took a new shooter and a Marine who hadn't shot in a couple of years. Neither had shot suppressed before and they found it very entertaining, hence the comment and laughter in the first video. Shot first with the Spectre II:  Ruger MkIV Chop'n Thread with SilencerCo Spectre II Then with my Oculus:  Ruger Mk IV Chop'n Thread with Rugged Oculus Target, ragged holes aren't tumbling, just 2+ rounds  It was a little high so I dialed that in. All told it's just what I wanted. Now time for upgrades. |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 5:52:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: seattlite]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Well it's a shooter. No issue stabilizing CCI SV. Took a new shooter and a Marine who hadn't shot in a couple of years. Neither had shot suppressed before and they found it very entertaining, hence the comment and laughter in the first video. Shot first with the Spectre II:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJg936B9ui8Then with my Oculus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBlMR4IMH9ATarget, ragged holes aren't tumbling, just 2+ rounds https://i.imgur.com/57vY7ySl.jpg It was a little high so I dialed that in. All told it's just what I wanted. Now time for upgrades. What are the details of the front sight? How did you attach? Drill/tap/screw? Make and Model? |
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Posted: 10/23/2020 6:57:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seattlite: What are the details of the front sight? How did you attach? Drill/tap/screw? Make and Model? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seattlite: Originally Posted By Plumber576: Well it's a shooter. No issue stabilizing CCI SV. Took a new shooter and a Marine who hadn't shot in a couple of years. Neither had shot suppressed before and they found it very entertaining, hence the comment and laughter in the first video. Shot first with the Spectre II: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJg936B9ui8Then with my Oculus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBlMR4IMH9ATarget, ragged holes aren't tumbling, just 2+ rounds https://i.imgur.com/57vY7ySl.jpg It was a little high so I dialed that in. All told it's just what I wanted. Now time for upgrades. What are the details of the front sight? How did you attach? Drill/tap/screw? Make and Model? Moving the front sight is one of the services offered by D.Wilson Mfg. that I took advantage of when I sent my upper in. Maybe someone more well versed could explain how it's done. I had it done but was planning on mounting a red dot anyways, but after using them and realizing the distances I'd realistically be shooting at I'm sticking with the irons. |
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