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Posted: 10/24/2015 8:14:12 AM EDT
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Because the 22/45 is already heavy enough
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Posted: 10/24/2015 8:49:05 AM EDT
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Because the 22/45 is already heavy enough ^^^^^This That's why they came out with the "lite" line. |
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Posted: 10/24/2015 8:49:29 AM EDT
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If only Ruger knew somebody who could cast metal parts . . .
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Posted: 10/24/2015 9:33:17 AM EDT
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That's why I decided to skip the part where I buy a Ruger and replace all the unwanted or unneeded pieces, and just build one up from scratch.
I have a Volquartsen Target Frame inbound. 
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Posted: 10/24/2015 9:36:37 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/24/2015 3:43:40 PM EDT
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This Volquartsen frame and a Ruger Lite barrel was my solution. It's not steel but aluminum works okay for me. <a href="http://s450.photobucket.com/user/rep1954/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150303_1923102.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq225/rep1954/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150303_1923102.jpg</a> <a href="http://s450.photobucket.com/user/rep1954/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150303_1922322.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq225/rep1954/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150303_1922322.jpg</a> Very nice. |
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Posted: 10/24/2015 7:12:47 PM EDT
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Because the 22/45 is already heavy enough Not for my needs. |
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Posted: 10/24/2015 11:21:12 PM EDT
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That's why I decided to skip the part where I buy a Ruger and replace all the unwanted or unneeded pieces, and just build one up from scratch. I have a Volquartsen Target Frame inbound. https://www.volquartsen.com/pictures/900x600/620-22-45-frame.jpg $420??? |
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Posted: 10/24/2015 11:40:55 PM EDT
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Because the 22/45 is already heavy enough Not for my needs. You will find very few people who share this need, the opposite in fact, which is why the 22/45 lite is a thing The 22/45 is like 6oz lighter than a 1911, sometimes less depending on the 1911, and if you have any accessories on the 22/45 |
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Posted: 10/25/2015 5:22:45 AM EDT
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That's why I decided to skip the part where I buy a Ruger and replace all the unwanted or unneeded pieces, and just build one up from scratch. I have a Volquartsen Target Frame inbound. https://www.volquartsen.com/pictures/900x600/620-22-45-frame.jpg $420??? yeah... i hope some day tandemkross comes out with a metal 22/45 frame that's 1/2 the price of volquartsen lol |
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Posted: 10/25/2015 9:12:39 AM EDT
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You will find very few people who share this need, the opposite in fact, which is why the 22/45 lite is a thing The 22/45 is like 6oz lighter than a 1911, sometimes less depending on the 1911, and if you have any accessories on the 22/45 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because the 22/45 is already heavy enough Not for my needs. You will find very few people who share this need, the opposite in fact, which is why the 22/45 lite is a thing The 22/45 is like 6oz lighter than a 1911, sometimes less depending on the 1911, and if you have any accessories on the 22/45 True most likely. My need is for a heavy pistol for high precision, rapid fire, exhibition shooting, a need that's presently well filled by my MKlll Hunter and my SIG X-Fives. I believe that a stainless frame 22/45 would serve it even better. |
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Posted: 10/25/2015 3:48:18 PM EDT
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A while back on a different forum we got into a discussion on gun weights so I weighed my 22/45's.
1st and lightest is a model 3903 Black Lite at 24 oz. 2nd is a MKII 4 3/4" Standard upper on a MKIII non replaceable grip at 26 oz. 3rd is a 3903 Black Lite upper on a Volquartsen 22/45 aluminum frame at 27 oz. 4th is MKIII 22/45 5 1/2" Target bobbed to 3" with original front sight and the bolt lightened 3oz for a final weight of 28oz. 5th and a non Ruger is a Kimber 22/45 aluminum and steel conversion on a old West Hurley Auto Ordnance cast steel frame at 33oz. Even with a range difference of over 1/2 lb. all these guns have a balance that fit well within my comfort zone and point very well |
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Posted: 10/25/2015 4:26:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If only Ruger knew somebody who could cast metal parts . . . |
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Posted: 10/26/2015 12:52:27 PM EDT
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I'd imagine there are a few reasons but I seriously doubt weight is one of them.
1st and foremost is probably cost. 22/45's are already on the upper end of the plinker range cost wise and I'd have to imaging that a metal frame would raise the price to a level higher then they think people would be willing to spend? I'm also guessing they may feel like that would make it too similar to the MK line? The only real difference between a 22/45 w/metal frame and an MKIII would be the grip angle. |
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Posted: 10/26/2015 12:59:34 PM EDT
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"The only real difference between a 22/45 w/metal frame and an MKIII would be the grip angle."
I shoot the 22/45 because of egronomics. I waited for Volquartsen to come out with the 22/45 Target Frame to buy one of their frames. |
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Posted: 10/26/2015 4:01:12 PM EDT
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"The only real difference between a 22/45 w/metal frame and an MKIII would be the grip angle." I shoot the 22/45 because of egronomics. I waited for Volquartsen to come out with the 22/45 Target Frame to buy one of their frames. I didn't mean to imply that the difference was trivial, just that the difference wouldn't be significant enough for a company like Ruger to justify making both |
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Posted: 10/26/2015 6:25:40 PM EDT
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I didn't mean to imply that the difference was trivial, just that the difference wouldn't be significant enough for a company like Ruger to justify making both Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"The only real difference between a 22/45 w/metal frame and an MKIII would be the grip angle." I shoot the 22/45 because of egronomics. I waited for Volquartsen to come out with the 22/45 Target Frame to buy one of their frames. I didn't mean to imply that the difference was trivial, just that the difference wouldn't be significant enough for a company like Ruger to justify making both I never felt any negativeness in you statement as I'm sure your statement is correct. When I bring a gun up I like the front sight to be visible which is what happens with the 22/45 and not the MK series. Even if Ruger tried to produce a stainless lower in a cnc machine they would sti!ll have to fill it with quality internal parts and when has Ruger ever put a 2 to 2 1/2 lb trigger in their 22 auto's? I would really like to have a 4 inch all stainless slab side quality out of the box 22/45 from Ruger, Just look at the price difference between a stainless Single Six and a Single Six Hunter and see what you pay for an inch of barrel and some scope rings not to mention a heavy creepy trigger. |
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Posted: 10/27/2015 3:23:56 PM EDT
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I never felt any negativeness in you statement as I'm sure your statement is correct. When I bring a gun up I like the front sight to be visible which is what happens with the 22/45 and not the MK series. Even if Ruger tried to produce a stainless lower in a cnc machine they would sti!ll have to fill it with quality internal parts and when has Ruger ever put a 2 to 2 1/2 lb trigger in their 22 auto's? I would really like to have a 4 inch all stainless slab side quality out of the box 22/45 from Ruger, Just look at the price difference between a stainless Single Six and a Single Six Hunter and see what you pay for an inch of barrel and some scope rings not to mention a heavy creepy trigger. The thing is, quality costs. I'm sure an all metal 22/45 done right with a good barrel, trigger, etc. would be a sweet gun but I'm also sure it would not be cheap. That would be fine with me (within reason) but it seems like most people aren't willing to pay a premium for a premium .22LR? and unfortunately most high end .22 pistols are setup for bullseye or Olympic type shooting. I have a S&W 41 which is a very nice all steel .22LR with a great trigger but the prices on them have gotten crazy IMO. |
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Posted: 10/28/2015 10:48:58 AM EDT
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The thing is, quality costs. I'm sure an all metal 22/45 done right with a good barrel, trigger, etc. would be a sweet gun but I'm also sure it would not be cheap. That would be fine with me (within reason) but it seems like most people aren't willing to pay a premium for a premium .22LR? and unfortunately most high end .22 pistols are setup for bullseye or Olympic type shooting. I have a S&W 41 which is a very nice all steel .22LR with a great trigger but the prices on them have gotten crazy IMO. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never felt any negativeness in you statement as I'm sure your statement is correct. When I bring a gun up I like the front sight to be visible which is what happens with the 22/45 and not the MK series. Even if Ruger tried to produce a stainless lower in a cnc machine they would sti!ll have to fill it with quality internal parts and when has Ruger ever put a 2 to 2 1/2 lb trigger in their 22 auto's? I would really like to have a 4 inch all stainless slab side quality out of the box 22/45 from Ruger, Just look at the price difference between a stainless Single Six and a Single Six Hunter and see what you pay for an inch of barrel and some scope rings not to mention a heavy creepy trigger. The thing is, quality costs. I'm sure an all metal 22/45 done right with a good barrel, trigger, etc. would be a sweet gun but I'm also sure it would not be cheap. That would be fine with me (within reason) but it seems like most people aren't willing to pay a premium for a premium .22LR? and unfortunately most high end .22 pistols are setup for bullseye or Olympic type shooting. I have a S&W 41 which is a very nice all steel .22LR with a great trigger but the prices on them have gotten crazy IMO. The MKlll Hunter my wife bought for me as a Father's Day gift in 2014 cost her only $499.00 at our local gunshop. Would an all stainless 45/22 necessarily cost any more than a stainless MKlll Hunter or MKlll Competition? |
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Posted: 10/28/2015 5:52:36 PM EDT
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Well a Ruger SR45 with a polymer frame list for $330.00 less than a SR1911 dose. The MK series is stamped and welded construction and my Volquartsen 22/45 Target frame is made from aluminum billets milled, pinned, and screwed together. It may be in order to build a affordable frame that uses the current internal parts of the Ruger it needs to be two pieces if built without stamping. It would be the cats meow if they built a all new stainless steel downsized 1911. I would be all over that.
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Posted: 11/29/2015 7:56:45 PM EDT
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This Volquartsen frame and a Ruger Lite barrel was my solution. It's not steel but aluminum works okay for me. <a href="http://s450.photobucket.com/user/rep1954/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150303_1923102.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq225/rep1954/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150303_1923102.jpg</a> <a href="http://s450.photobucket.com/user/rep1954/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150303_1922322.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq225/rep1954/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150303_1922322.jpg</a> Very nice. I might have to take a look into that. |
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