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Posted: 11/15/2020 9:20:22 PM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 11/22/2020 11:15:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mlin]
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Posted: 11/22/2020 12:42:19 PM EDT
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Quote History@Engineer5 I threw a number on this and quickly realized I didn't have a shot in the dark at getting it. $6625.....whew. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/24/2020 12:38:06 AM EDT
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What was the Buy it now price?
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Posted: 11/24/2020 12:44:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lawdog-1: What was the Buy it now price? There wasn't a buy it now. Just a no reserve auction. I THINK when I first saw it the current bid was somewhere around 2k. And I think it was only at $2200 with 30 minutes left. It escalated quickly with 15 minutes left. lol. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 11/29/2020 3:11:52 PM EDT
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been a while... Just need to find something to shoot through it...
 
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Posted: 11/29/2020 11:21:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By asiparks: been a while... Just need to find something to shoot through it... https://picr.me/i/2020/11/03/Vr2TDq.jpg https://picr.me/i/2020/11/03/Vr2Fhp.jpg I dig that |
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USA
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Posted: 12/19/2020 8:43:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Modul4r]
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Been a long time follower of this thread even though I've hardly posted. I just added a bunch of parts to my Springfield Mil-Spec. It's not a strict copy but just a tribute that I think captures the same style. Nevertheless, I did add some cool and discontinued parts. I just gotta upgrade the sights. I'm leaning towards just adding a Harrison retro rear and calling it a day. Other options are the full MEU SOC front/rear sight set from KC Customs or a King Tappan sight set.
  
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USA
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Posted: 12/20/2020 3:20:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mlin]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Modul4r: Been a long time follower of this thread even though I've hardly posted. I just added a bunch of parts to my Springfield Mil-Spec. It's not a strict copy but just a tribute that I think captures the same style. Nevertheless, I did add some cool and discontinued parts. I just gotta upgrade the sights. I'm leaning towards just adding a Harrison retro rear and calling it a day. Other options are the full MEU SOC front/rear sight set from KC Customs or a King Tappan sight set. You've through the effort getting those desirable parts. Please make it whole with KC's replica front/rear and fitted grip safety. It will be even more rewarding once all done. 
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Posted: 12/20/2020 4:51:53 PM EDT
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Fuck I want that Surefire. So hawt.
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Posted: 12/21/2020 1:22:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Modul4r: Been a long time follower of this thread even though I've hardly posted. I just added a bunch of parts to my Springfield Mil-Spec. It's not a strict copy but just a tribute that I think captures the same style. Nevertheless, I did add some cool and discontinued parts. I just gotta upgrade the sights. I'm leaning towards just adding a Harrison retro rear and calling it a day. Other options are the full MEU SOC front/rear sight set from KC Customs or a King Tappan sight set. https://i.ibb.co/tJYV8Mv/IMG-3336.jpg https://i.ibb.co/1rhjp4Z/IMG-3361.jpg https://i.ibb.co/sy1BRnb/IMG-3378.jpg Originally Posted By mlin: You've through the effort getting those desirable parts. Please make it whole with KC's replica front/rear and fitted grip safety. It will be even more rewarding once all done. https://i.imgur.com/eCkXBtP.jpg Originally Posted By NapeSticksToKids: Fuck I want that Surefire. So hawt. “LIKE” Button |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 12/23/2020 10:54:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Modul4r: Been a long time follower of this thread even though I've hardly posted. I just added a bunch of parts to my Springfield Mil-Spec. It's not a strict copy but just a tribute that I think captures the same style. Nevertheless, I did add some cool and discontinued parts. I just gotta upgrade the sights. I'm leaning towards just adding a Harrison retro rear and calling it a day. Other options are the full MEU SOC front/rear sight set from KC Customs or a King Tappan sight set. https://i.ibb.co/tJYV8Mv/IMG-3336.jpg https://i.ibb.co/1rhjp4Z/IMG-3361.jpg https://i.ibb.co/sy1BRnb/IMG-3378.jpg Good looking piece. Go all the way! |
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Posted: 12/25/2020 10:20:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Modul4r: Been a long time follower of this thread even though I've hardly posted. I just added a bunch of parts to my Springfield Mil-Spec. It's not a strict copy but just a tribute that I think captures the same style. Nevertheless, I did add some cool and discontinued parts. I just gotta upgrade the sights. I'm leaning towards just adding a Harrison retro rear and calling it a day. Other options are the full MEU SOC front/rear sight set from KC Customs or a King Tappan sight set. https://i.ibb.co/tJYV8Mv/IMG-3336.jpg https://i.ibb.co/1rhjp4Z/IMG-3361.jpg https://i.ibb.co/sy1BRnb/IMG-3378.jpg |
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Posted: 12/25/2020 12:44:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Modul4r: Been a long time follower of this thread even though I've hardly posted. I just added a bunch of parts to my Springfield Mil-Spec. It's not a strict copy but just a tribute that I think captures the same style. Nevertheless, I did add some cool and discontinued parts. I just gotta upgrade the sights. I'm leaning towards just adding a Harrison retro rear and calling it a day. Other options are the full MEU SOC front/rear sight set from KC Customs or a King Tappan sight set. https://i.ibb.co/tJYV8Mv/IMG-3336.jpg https://i.ibb.co/1rhjp4Z/IMG-3361.jpg https://i.ibb.co/sy1BRnb/IMG-3378.jpg Awesome! |
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Posted: 12/26/2020 4:20:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/26/2020 11:47:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Infidel4life11: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/B721C6B5-AD55-4925-8408-54D874E0AECB-1749410.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/AE0D1624-AF41-488D-9609-CB5483E48AB8-1749411.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/819DFBE8-3305-44BA-AC71-61A3D2F30B8C-1749413.jpg 
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IA, USA
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Posted: 12/27/2020 10:25:41 AM EDT
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So the comander grip safety will work? Or some modifications need done?
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Posted: 12/27/2020 12:00:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By maxaks: So the comander grip safety will work? Or some modifications need done? I need more information to accurately answer your question. 1. In the pistol grip area, there are no differences in commander and government frames made by colt or to colt spec. 2. Likely just about any part will require at least a small amount of work. Grip safeties in general require the frame tangs to be radius’d for the contour of the safety and the safety lever usually needs some work. Again I need more info: -what brand frame -what brand safety -is the frame already cut for a beaver tail grip safety -what radius: .250, .240, .220, Wilson |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 12/27/2020 12:08:17 PM EDT
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I just wanted to have the parts available for use and to make sure it would work. I dont know much about the mini 1911s and didnt know most parts were interchangeable
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Posted: 12/28/2020 3:48:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Engineer5]
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Picked up this today. Gotta start some where..........
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USA
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Posted: 12/31/2020 5:33:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5: Picked up this today. Gotta start some where.......... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/84711/PXL_20201228_194225477-1752340.jpg Sweet Loaded for MEUSOC project build. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 12/31/2020 6:02:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Infidel4life11: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/B721C6B5-AD55-4925-8408-54D874E0AECB-1749410.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/AE0D1624-AF41-488D-9609-CB5483E48AB8-1749411.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/819DFBE8-3305-44BA-AC71-61A3D2F30B8C-1749413.jpg Hey, that Kimber looks like it’s actually seen some use. You know, been treated like a gun. Congratulations. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/31/2020 9:09:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Toftwo]
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 Damn it, this is how things get expensive! 
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USA
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Posted: 1/1/2021 8:33:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/1/2021 8:47:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/2/2021 4:15:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mlin]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fordtough25: Oh my  That is the early Colt Custom Shop version. One of my luckiest buy many years ago. Got a tip from the other forum that several were available @ MSRP on a reputable website. When to their webpage and get the last one. Since then, the price went nuts that I would rather spend on other collectible WWI & WWII 1911. My other lucky found is a WWII Ithaca. Browsing online ads and found that seller is only 1.5 hours away from where I live. $900 private party transfer with small FFL + State registration fees, and no sales taxes. At the time, the similar condition Ithaca is twice the price. Didn't feel that lucky after those 2 founds. 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/9/2021 7:54:41 PM EDT
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Finally dropped of the Gen 1 to the 2112 to get built, super stoked!
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2021 2:30:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bovw]
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=11-eRzHge20
Anyone watched this? I can’t make out frame markings, and looks like a Milspec slide with Novak sights, Ed Brown grip safety and thumb safety, and C&S hammer. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 5:58:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mlin]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bovw: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=11-eRzHge20 Anyone watched this? I can’t make out frame markings, and looks like a Milspec slide with Novak sights, Ed Brown grip safety and thumb safety, and C&S hammer. I believe it's a Springfield frame judging by the frame tang cut that have very little material left and Ed Brown GS was trimmed to try match with what's left on the frame tang. It's well known that SA frame tang is shorter than standard Colt's and leave that kind of gap when trying to fit Ed Brown .250 radius GS. 
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Posted: 1/26/2021 2:08:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mlin: I believe it's a Springfield frame judging by the frame tang cut that have very little material left and Ed Brown GS was trimmed to try match with what's left on the frame tang. It's well known that SA frame tang is shorter than standard Colt's and leave that kind of gap when trying to fit Ed Brown .250 radius GS. https://i.imgur.com/zjiB01L.jpg I’m going to agree with you brother. Looks like a Springfield mil-spec tuned up and also looks like Springfield SN and stuff |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/26/2021 10:25:48 AM EDT
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My eyes aren’t that good anymore. I was wondering, the guy said it’s a real MEUSOC.
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Posted: 1/31/2021 4:50:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mlin: I believe it's a Springfield frame judging by the frame tang cut that have very little material left and Ed Brown GS was trimmed to try match with what's left on the frame tang. It's well known that SA frame tang is shorter than standard Colt's and leave that kind of gap when trying to fit Ed Brown .250 radius GS. https://i.imgur.com/zjiB01L.jpg |
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Posted: 1/31/2021 5:37:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dunderway: Don't Caspian frames have that issue as well? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dunderway: Originally Posted By mlin: I believe it's a Springfield frame judging by the frame tang cut that have very little material left and Ed Brown GS was trimmed to try match with what's left on the frame tang. It's well known that SA frame tang is shorter than standard Colt's and leave that kind of gap when trying to fit Ed Brown .250 radius GS. https://i.imgur.com/zjiB01L.jpg It's not really an "issue;" it's matching what you need with what you have. Springfield uses a .220" tang cut. .250" is kind of the industry standard. The original MEU(SOC)s were cut for a Caspian/Wilson to match the Clark grip safety, which uses compound angles rather than just a radius. Today, you can get Caspians with the GI tang, which can be cut down to any, a .250", or a Caspian/Wilson. |
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Posted: 1/31/2021 5:53:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rhm0351: It's not really an "issue;" it's matching what you need with what you have. Springfield uses a .220" tang cut. .250" is kind of the industry standard. The original MEU(SOC)s were cut for a Caspian/Wilson to match the Clark grip safety, which uses compound angles rather than just a radius. Today, you can get Caspians with the GI tang, which can be cut down to any, a .250", or a Caspian/Wilson. |
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Posted: 1/31/2021 6:21:18 PM EDT
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It's a big Marine Corps, and I won't pretend to know definitively, but the only Caspians I saw were the shooting teams'. I heard some were built as a stopgap when the PWS built pistols in the style of the ICQB to boost numbers after Det 1 stood up, but I have forgotten the details, right now. I never saw an old MEU(SOC) with anything but a GI frame, and never heard a 2112 mention building one. That doesn't mean it never happened, though. I overlapped the last team deployed with the PWS-built M45s and first with the Colt M45A1 in Afghanistan. The one, with a mix of some new and some old parts, was built on a Remington Rand frame. Pictured with an American Pride Black Tac holster provided to the team by care package from O'Rourke Leather. It was made for a Taurus railed 1911 so that it could take the M45A1's full-width Picatinny rail that was being phased in.
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Posted: 1/31/2021 6:50:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rhm0351: It's a big Marine Corps, and I won't pretend to know definitively, but the only Caspians I saw were the shooting teams'. I heard some were built as a stopgap when the PWS built pistols in the style of the ICQB to boost numbers after Det 1 stood up, but I have forgotten the details, right now. I never saw an old MEU(SOC) with anything but a GI frame, and never heard a 2112 mention building one. That doesn't mean it never happened, though. I overlapped the last team deployed with the PWS-built M45s and first with the Colt M45A1 in Afghanistan. The one, with a mix of some new and some old parts, was built on a Remington Rand frame. Pictured with an American Pride Black Tac holster provided to the team by care package from O'Rourke Leather. It was made for a Taurus railed 1911 so that it could take the M45A1's full-width Picatinny rail that was being phased in. http://i.imgur.com/TXYEv19.jpg |
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USA
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Posted: 2/1/2021 1:31:26 AM EDT
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On the background of this photo showing a genuine MEUSOC pistol w/ Caspian frame & Springfield slide (MARSOC book)
 Photo below is from USMC technical manual that has illustrated Caspian slide/frame 1911. Even thought the manufacturer name address marking was removed in the publication, there are distinct Caspian features showing on the slide and frame. Caspian frame have very good frame tang fitment with Ed Brown grip safety, but the A1 finger cutout is pretty shallow compare to others. Although manual indicated that is designated as M45, but you can see it still sports King's ambi that was used in the earlier MEUSOC pistol evolution.  |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/1/2021 11:59:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mlin: On the background of this photo showing a genuine MEUSOC pistol w/ Caspian frame & Springfield slide (MARSOC book) https://i.imgur.com/tJbwRN7.jpg Photo below is from USMC technical manual that has illustrated Caspian slide/frame 1911. Even thought the manufacturer name address marking was removed in the publication, there are distinct Caspian features showing on the slide and frame. Caspian frame have very good frame tang fitment with Ed Brown grip safety, but the A1 finger cutout is pretty shallow compare to others. Although manual indicated that is designated as M45, but you can see it still sports King's ambi that was used in the earlier MEUSOC pistol evolution. https://i.imgur.com/3t7uy33.jpg More info on the MARSOC book please.. Title? |
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Posted: 2/1/2021 12:02:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LongTrang: More info on the MARSOC book please.. Title? I second that! |
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Posted: 2/1/2021 1:44:33 PM EDT
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This is the MARSOC book that contains the photos.
https://www.google.com/books/edition/MARSOC/VI91ktKAp_wC?hl=en&gbpv=0 https://www.amazon.com/MARSOC-Marine-Special-Operations-Command/dp/0760340749 |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/1/2021 4:05:29 PM EDT
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Thank you!
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:49:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lear60pilot]
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Hey guys. I have not been in this forum for years. I was very active about 7 years ago when I had a MEUSOC and a couple of M45’s built by a friend at PWS and was collecting all the parts. You can see a bunch of my pictures and postings earlier in the thread although I think I may have to update the picture hosting. That was back in the timeframe when Detective Hobbs was shot and killed in the line of duty. I was helping him with his build and he was a very active member on this forum. Through the help and generosity of members on this forum, we completed DET Hobbs MEUSOC build and presented his MEUSOC and Kimber DET1 to his family in a display. At the time I also worked with my 2112 buddy at PWS to have some rear sights made that he sold to those AR15 members who wanted them. There were no rear sights anywhere. I don't remember how many, but it was around 100 that were made. I forgot I had an extra one and just came across it going through some stuff. I have no use for it, I thought I was going to build another MEUSOC but I never will. I listed it on eBay if you want to find it. I hope everyone is doing well and progressing with their builds. SEMPER FI!!
     
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:56:10 PM EDT
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Cool
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Posted: 2/4/2021 6:28:36 PM EDT
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@lear60pilot
Good to see you again. I bought one, and eventually lost it after a couple of moves. I really wish I had it in hand when I had my clone (finally) built last year. For those of you looking to build a V1-3, this is the way. |
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Posted: 2/7/2021 4:21:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HUCK70]
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Posted: 2/7/2021 4:53:41 PM EDT
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Very nice
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Posted: 2/7/2021 5:57:56 PM EDT
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Damn, I remember this thread from 8 or 10 years ago. Great pics guys, who was the 1911 smith that passed away some time ago that featured a M45 clone. He was one of the better ones as I remember.
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Posted: 2/7/2021 6:31:24 PM EDT
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@Jeffg
Dave Berryhill. |
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Posted: 2/7/2021 7:07:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pleaforwar: @Jeffg Dave Berryhill. Thank you Sir, anymore I suffer from CRS more and more. Dave was a good guy and active on a couple of the forums, RIP, hard to believe it's going on six years since he passed. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:26:59 PM EDT
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@LongTrang
As a heads up, although the book is not bad to have, I believe that might be the only M45 photo in it. Just wanted to temper expectations. Although it showed up earlier in the thread, I feel it might be good to repost this from KC Crawford’s site. It outlines the changes along the development of the MEU(SOC) and later M45 with feedback from multiple other 2112s. https://kcskustomcreations.com/meu-soc-variations-and-price-list/ He also happens to sell really good quality reproduction parts and he does full builds (I don’t own one, but I’ve never really seen anything but compliments about his work). From what I recall, the latest gen (after serviceable GI receivers were few and far between) used Caspian Modern Receivers in carbon steel and integral plunger tubes. I also believe that PWS ordered them pre-cut for the .250 radius Ed brown. The M45s had MC### serial frames, and I think the shooting team guns also had unique frame prefixes. |
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