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Posted: 7/12/2017 7:40:39 PM EDT
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I've seen straight 1911s that had been through WW2 era rebuild but were still in original configuration. Only difference is they were parkerized and had WW2 era Bakelite grips.
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Posted: 7/12/2017 7:53:28 PM EDT
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Dick Winters of Easy Company fame carried a 1911
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Posted: 7/12/2017 8:16:21 PM EDT
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They used both the 1911 and 1911A1. They were VERY short of 1911A1's when WWII broke out, they didn't really get 1911A1 production cranked up until 1941 which is why you see so few earlier ones even though they had gone to the A1 design in 1924. They didn't make many A1's until the war got fired up [rough figure 21-22K before WWII really took off] so the 1911 HAD to be used due to the extremely short supply of the 1911A1 configuration. [1911A1 serial numbers started at 700,000 in 1924]
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Posted: 7/12/2017 10:07:42 PM EDT
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The vast majority of 1911 type pistols used in WW2 were likely non A1's until probably late 43 early 44. Those in good shape would have been taken as is with a lot more going through ww2 era and earlier post ww1 rebuild programs. There are even some pictures kicking around of 1911's (not a1's) still in use by special operations personnel very recently
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Posted: 7/13/2017 12:54:13 PM EDT
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Cool, I could see it going either way. The "upgrade" would be pretty minor with just the safety spur and main spring housing. So upgrading wouldn't really cost a whole lot in parts or time to make all pistols feel the same. But with no war and tough economic times there wouldn't be much reason to fix it if it wasn't really broken.
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The vast majority of 1911 type pistols used in WW2 were likely non A1's until probably late 43 early 44. Those in good shape would have been taken as is with a lot more going through ww2 era and earlier post ww1 rebuild programs. There are even some pictures kicking around of 1911's (not a1's) still in use by special operations personnel very recently |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 8:30:09 PM EDT
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Cool, I could see it going either way. The "upgrade" would be pretty minor with just the safety spur and main spring housing. So upgrading wouldn't really cost a whole lot in parts or time to make all pistols feel the same. But with no war and tough economic times there wouldn't be much reason to fix it if it wasn't really broken. Not sure why they would want to put up with the grip spur that is now almost 100 years out of date but the flat main spring housings have become more popular now for two handed shooting. |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 8:22:31 AM EDT
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Cool, I could see it going either way. The "upgrade" would be pretty minor with just the safety spur and main spring housing. So upgrading wouldn't really cost a whole lot in parts or time to make all pistols feel the same. But with no war and tough economic times there wouldn't be much reason to fix it if it wasn't really broken. Not sure why they would want to put up with the grip spur that is now almost 100 years out of date but the flat main spring housings have become more popular now for two handed shooting. |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 8:35:48 AM EDT
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Because even special operations units have only a certain degree of flexibility and budget. If you happen to have an old 1911 in your arms locker that works you use it. May not always have time budget or access to parts etc. one of the stranger guns I saw in Iraq was one of the old m79 grenade launchers still being used by an active duty unit. No idea those were still kicking around at all Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cool, I could see it going either way. The "upgrade" would be pretty minor with just the safety spur and main spring housing. So upgrading wouldn't really cost a whole lot in parts or time to make all pistols feel the same. But with no war and tough economic times there wouldn't be much reason to fix it if it wasn't really broken. Not sure why they would want to put up with the grip spur that is now almost 100 years out of date but the flat main spring housings have become more popular now for two handed shooting. |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 8:45:24 AM EDT
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most of you have probably seen this on youtube, but just in case... the order of the machining process is interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7XUtgIVo7k |
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Posted: 7/16/2017 11:40:09 AM EDT
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I hadnt seen the vid. Thanks.
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