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Posted: 4/23/2016 4:46:56 PM EDT
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I used to do uspsa a lot, most guys were running the 40 but some had the 45 version. Once you get an STI running with good tuned mags they were very reliable. Prolly not a good example tho, we were always changing something with the gun.
My only bitch was the cost of mags, and possibly having to tune them. STI seems pretty well made, I toured their plant in Georgetown 10 years ago, pretty good operation. I have 3 of the Canadian paras, they really have held up well, but the new para seems a crap shoot. If the damn STI mags weren't so stupid expensive I'd have an STI. |
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Posted: 4/23/2016 5:24:41 PM EDT
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The 45 STIs have a rep for being more finicky. I suggest 9mm.
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Posted: 4/23/2016 7:38:23 PM EDT
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Thanks for the replies. Not looking for a 9mm. Maybe I'll just buy the single stack version.
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Posted: 4/24/2016 8:08:06 AM EDT
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Thanks for the replies. Not looking for a 9mm. Maybe I'll just buy the single stack version. After I posted the mag price bitching, I went and checked. They can now be had for 65 ea, still steep but they have come down a bit. Any double stack 45 can be a picky eater, but they can be figured out. Mine run well with 200 gr LSWC , so any other bullet works well too. |
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Posted: 4/24/2016 10:43:08 AM EDT
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Back in my IPSC days I ran an STI Edge in 40. The rounds were all handloaded long and the gun ran like a quartz clock. Can't imagine why a 45 would be any different, but I am interested in your question because an STI 2011 in 45 would be the ultimate work gun.
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Posted: 4/24/2016 1:22:06 PM EDT
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The only issues I ever had with my .45 2011s is that the bullet is prone to come in contact with the slide stop lug, which can result in weird difficult-to-diagnose feeding issues. I attribute this to the ramped barrel and the steeper feed ramp.
I make it a point to check for clearance with my loads and shape the slide stop lug accordingly and that fixes it. |
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Posted: 4/24/2016 1:42:11 PM EDT
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The only issues I ever had with my .45 2011s is that the bullet is prone to come in contact with the slide stop lug, which can result in weird difficult-to-diagnose feeding issues. I attribute this to the ramped barrel and the steeper feed ramp. I make it a point to check for clearance with my loads and shape the slide stop lug accordingly and that fixes it. Awesome, thanks for the info. Since I have no qualms about taking a grinder to a $2000 pistol ( the IPSC shooter in me, lol), that sounds like an easy fix. |
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Posted: 4/24/2016 5:20:05 PM EDT
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I have an STI I and SVI in 40. A friend had an STI in 45. He didn't have in problems with it. On the STI Facebook page there were some STI 45 ACP mags for sale for about $50. Good luck on getting that STI.
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Posted: 4/24/2016 6:17:18 PM EDT
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Theres some encouraging posts. Maybe ill take the plunge after all. Plus It sounds like STI stands behind their product. Now the question is 4" or 5"
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Posted: 4/24/2016 7:36:02 PM EDT
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Tuned mags are 100-200 bucks.
Don't lose them. |
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Posted: 4/24/2016 9:44:45 PM EDT
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Tuned mags are 100-200 bucks. Don't lose them. Ill just try to learn to tune them myself. What could possibly go wrong? 
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Posted: 4/25/2016 1:34:31 AM EDT
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Tuned mags are 100-200 bucks. Don't lose them. I have been thinking about switching from glock to sti for comps, but holy crap. what's with the mags? how come they cost so much and need tuned? |
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Posted: 4/25/2016 4:20:53 AM EDT
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I have been thinking about switching from glock to sti for comps, but holy crap. what's with the mags? how come they cost so much and need tuned? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tuned mags are 100-200 bucks. Don't lose them. I have been thinking about switching from glock to sti for comps, but holy crap. what's with the mags? how come they cost so much and need tuned? -feed lips are formed, deburred, and polished -magazine tube is polished and deburred -spring is tuned -follower is modified NOT to hold slide open with the last round -they're also laser engraved with the shooter's name and phone number and "cash reward if found" 
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Posted: 4/25/2016 8:34:58 AM EDT
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Sample of two, but none of my sv or sti mags (maybe 14 total) are tuned, no issues.
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Posted: 4/25/2016 9:20:33 AM EDT
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Tuned mags are also designed to hold 2-3 rounds more than standard factory mags. When you start pushing the limits, shit has to be tuned perfectly to work right. My DVC Limited runs just fine on un-tuned factory mags...as well as an MBX mag and an untuned STI tube with Grams guts and a Dawson pad. The "must have million dollar super tuned mags" thing is way overhyped on the internet IMO.
I do intend to buy a Dawson tuning kit and massage the feed lips on mine eventually. While they work now, we'll see how they hold up to being dropped and stepped on for a while in USPSA.
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Posted: 4/25/2016 10:22:58 AM EDT
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Sample of two, but none of my sv or sti mags (maybe 14 total) are tuned, no issues. Same here. I'm not a serious enough competitor to care about the super-expensive tuned mags. I think about of about 20 STI and SV mags, I've ever only had to adjust the feedlips on maybe 2, and both of those were purchased used. |
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Posted: 4/25/2016 10:37:47 AM EDT
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Tuned mags are 100-200 bucks. Don't lose them. I have been thinking about switching from glock to sti for comps, but holy crap. what's with the mags? how come they cost so much and need tuned? -feed lips are formed, deburred, and polished -magazine tube is polished and deburred -spring is tuned -follower is modified NOT to hold slide open with the last round -they're also laser engraved with the shooter's name and phone number and "cash reward if found" The magazines for my X-Fives go for roughly a hundred bucks, or so, apiece and the pistols will work fine with normal P226 magazines if necessary. Serious question; for the price they get for the STI magazines, why don't they come properly set up to begin with? |
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Posted: 4/25/2016 10:48:51 AM EDT
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The magazines for my X-Fives go for roughly a hundred bucks, or so, apiece and the pistols will work fine with normal P226 magazines if necessary. Serious question; for the price they get for the STI magazines, why don't they come properly set up to begin with? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tuned mags are 100-200 bucks. Don't lose them. I have been thinking about switching from glock to sti for comps, but holy crap. what's with the mags? how come they cost so much and need tuned? -feed lips are formed, deburred, and polished -magazine tube is polished and deburred -spring is tuned -follower is modified NOT to hold slide open with the last round -they're also laser engraved with the shooter's name and phone number and "cash reward if found" The magazines for my X-Fives go for roughly a hundred bucks, or so, apiece and the pistols will work fine with normal P226 magazines if necessary. Serious question; for the price they get for the STI magazines, why don't they come properly set up to begin with? They work fine out of the box. Due to the 140mm mag tube length limit for USPSA, there is a cottage industry of folks who try to shoehorn in every last round for a competitive advantage. It can be a fiddly, time consuming process and STI simply isn't staffed to do that kind of work. They have a tough enough time just meeting production goals normally, so I suppose they figure they'll just crank out the mags and let some of their stocking dealers (Dawson, etc.) dip their beak in offering a value-add service. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 10:16:52 AM EDT
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They work fine out of the box. Due to the 140mm mag tube length limit for USPSA, there is a cottage industry of folks who try to shoehorn in every last round for a competitive advantage. It can be a fiddly, time consuming process and STI simply isn't staffed to do that kind of work. They have a tough enough time just meeting production goals normally, so I suppose they figure they'll just crank out the mags and let some of their stocking dealers (Dawson, etc.) dip their beak in offering a value-add service. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tuned mags are 100-200 bucks. Don't lose them. I have been thinking about switching from glock to sti for comps, but holy crap. what's with the mags? how come they cost so much and need tuned? -feed lips are formed, deburred, and polished -magazine tube is polished and deburred -spring is tuned -follower is modified NOT to hold slide open with the last round -they're also laser engraved with the shooter's name and phone number and "cash reward if found" The magazines for my X-Fives go for roughly a hundred bucks, or so, apiece and the pistols will work fine with normal P226 magazines if necessary. Serious question; for the price they get for the STI magazines, why don't they come properly set up to begin with? They work fine out of the box. Due to the 140mm mag tube length limit for USPSA, there is a cottage industry of folks who try to shoehorn in every last round for a competitive advantage. It can be a fiddly, time consuming process and STI simply isn't staffed to do that kind of work. They have a tough enough time just meeting production goals normally, so I suppose they figure they'll just crank out the mags and let some of their stocking dealers (Dawson, etc.) dip their beak in offering a value-add service. Thanks, I learned something. |
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