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Posted: 7/27/2015 10:50:12 AM EDT
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Yes to both. Do your homework.
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Posted: 7/27/2015 11:11:45 AM EDT
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Yes to both. Do your homework. I've found the barrel on Midway, but it says "Semi-Drop In". I was under the impression that the ones they use for the custom shop guns like the Special Combat Government, and the customer sent guns were a full fit? Can't find an oversized bushing at all. They're all labeled as "drop in" parts. |
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Posted: 7/27/2015 1:48:09 PM EDT
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The Colt GCNM pistols have a different barrel than a Gov Model - the hood extension is a different width. What pistol do you want to put the barrel into?
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Posted: 7/27/2015 2:05:32 PM EDT
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The Colt GCNM pistols have a different barrel than a Gov Model - the hood extension is a different width. What pistol do you want to put the barrel into? An O1991. |
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Posted: 7/27/2015 2:23:10 PM EDT
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You might consider going with a good aftermarket match barrel for Government Model. OTOH, How is the barrel and bushing fit in the pistol now? Unless something is wrong, chances are you're not going to get much bang for your buck with a new fitted barrel and bushing as far as accuracy is concerned.
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Posted: 7/27/2015 2:34:34 PM EDT
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Honestly, the fit of the barrel is fine, and the bushing is "eh", but the main reason I want a Colt NM barrel is just because for some unexplainable reason I think they're insanely cool. That's really it. The gun is accurate enough for what I want to do, but I'd like an NM barrel just because, really.
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Posted: 7/27/2015 9:20:49 PM EDT
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Go with a Kart or Bar-Sto. Colt NM barrels don't touch them for quality. Plus you have that hood width dilemma you can't overcome.
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Posted: 7/28/2015 10:08:08 AM EDT
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Why can't the barrel hood issue be overcome? Can't you fit the hood?
The reviews on the Midway page say that it fit other 1911s, and I know CCS fits them to other 1911s. |
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Posted: 7/28/2015 12:31:13 PM EDT
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The current production Combat Elites come with a Colt marked NM barrel, so they're out there.
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:25:59 AM EDT
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Why can't the barrel hood issue be overcome? Can't you fit the hood? The reviews on the Midway page say that it fit other 1911s, and I know CCS fits them to other 1911s. Not economically. If the barrel you have fits fine, there are ways to adjust the fit of your existing bushing. Is it loose on the barrel, or in the slide? |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 8:00:55 AM EDT
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Not economically. If the barrel you have fits fine, there are ways to adjust the fit of your existing bushing. Is it loose on the barrel, or in the slide? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why can't the barrel hood issue be overcome? Can't you fit the hood? The reviews on the Midway page say that it fit other 1911s, and I know CCS fits them to other 1911s. Not economically. If the barrel you have fits fine, there are ways to adjust the fit of your existing bushing. Is it loose on the barrel, or in the slide? Sort of loose on the barrel. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 9:56:19 AM EDT
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Sort of loose on the barrel. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why can't the barrel hood issue be overcome? Can't you fit the hood? The reviews on the Midway page say that it fit other 1911s, and I know CCS fits them to other 1911s. Not economically. If the barrel you have fits fine, there are ways to adjust the fit of your existing bushing. Is it loose on the barrel, or in the slide? Sort of loose on the barrel. If you are good with a micrometer you can measure the barrel in teh bushing area, and the slide opening, and some companies will make you a custom bushing to those specs. That woudl be the route I would go. Not really that much difference in accuracy between a colt NM barrel and a regular colt barrel, if they are both fit properly. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 10:51:14 AM EDT
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If you are good with a micrometer you can measure the barrel in teh bushing area, and the slide opening, and some companies will make you a custom bushing to those specs. That woudl be the route I would go. Not really that much difference in accuracy between a colt NM barrel and a regular colt barrel, if they are both fit properly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why can't the barrel hood issue be overcome? Can't you fit the hood? The reviews on the Midway page say that it fit other 1911s, and I know CCS fits them to other 1911s. Not economically. If the barrel you have fits fine, there are ways to adjust the fit of your existing bushing. Is it loose on the barrel, or in the slide? Sort of loose on the barrel. If you are good with a micrometer you can measure the barrel in teh bushing area, and the slide opening, and some companies will make you a custom bushing to those specs. That woudl be the route I would go. Not really that much difference in accuracy between a colt NM barrel and a regular colt barrel, if they are both fit properly. Yeah, I'm not expecting some sort of extreme gains, but I think there's something that's insanely cool about having a Colt match barrel. I have no idea why. I just think it is. I'm trying to build (or have built) a pistol with all the features a "custom" pistol would have, while keeping it as Colt as possible. |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 3:45:38 PM EDT
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Yeah, I'm not expecting some sort of extreme gains, but I think there's something that's insanely cool about having a Colt match barrel. I have no idea why. I just think it is. I'm trying to build (or have built) a pistol with all the features a "custom" pistol would have, while keeping it as Colt as possible. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why can't the barrel hood issue be overcome? Can't you fit the hood? The reviews on the Midway page say that it fit other 1911s, and I know CCS fits them to other 1911s. Not economically. If the barrel you have fits fine, there are ways to adjust the fit of your existing bushing. Is it loose on the barrel, or in the slide? Sort of loose on the barrel. If you are good with a micrometer you can measure the barrel in teh bushing area, and the slide opening, and some companies will make you a custom bushing to those specs. That woudl be the route I would go. Not really that much difference in accuracy between a colt NM barrel and a regular colt barrel, if they are both fit properly. Yeah, I'm not expecting some sort of extreme gains, but I think there's something that's insanely cool about having a Colt match barrel. I have no idea why. I just think it is. I'm trying to build (or have built) a pistol with all the features a "custom" pistol would have, while keeping it as Colt as possible. Then start with a series 70 Gold Cup, and you will have the barrel and bushing. That's what I'm doing. I've already installed a solid bushing (from EGW?) and full length guide, next step is an aluminum wide trigger to replace the steel one. Mine had very minor finish damage and I picked it up for $600 at an auction. Next time I have money, I may install a nice beaver tail grip safety and send it off for a Royal Blue from the Colt shop. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:45:12 PM EDT
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Then start with a series 70 Gold Cup, and you will have the barrel and bushing. That's what I'm doing. I've already installed a solid bushing (from EGW?) and full length guide, next step is an aluminum wide trigger to replace the steel one. Mine had very minor finish damage and I picked it up for $600 at an auction. Next time I have money, I may install a nice beaver tail grip safety and send it off for a Royal Blue from the Colt shop. I live in California. It's not really an option. 
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Posted: 7/31/2015 2:57:33 AM EDT
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If your barrel shoots well now. Do as a poster above suggests and measure the barrel's OD, and the slide's ID. Do it a number of times, and average the numbers you get. Have EGW cut a bushing specifically for your gun. You can go wide flange, wide flange angle bore, or buy the National Match marked bushing. It will fit your barrel/slide and offer better accuracy. You retain the original barrel, and are only out like 30 bucks.
I had it done for my hardball gun and the fit was perfect. She actually picked up half an inch at 50 yards. |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 10:27:04 AM EDT
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Why can't the barrel hood issue be overcome? Can't you fit the hood? The reviews on the Midway page say that it fit other 1911s, and I know CCS fits them to other 1911s. Not economically. If the barrel you have fits fine, there are ways to adjust the fit of your existing bushing. Is it loose on the barrel, or in the slide? Sort of loose on the barrel. Do you know that the barrel fit in a bushing has to be judged with the barrel at an angle as it would be in battery? The 1911 barrel is tilted down to the front in battery, not parallel to the slide of frame. Really, this whole question has become inane. You have no chance of fitting any barrel or bushing to your pistol. Either hand the job over to a gunsmith or forget it before you ruin the pistol or hurt yourself. Hey, I just had an idea that can fix everything right up - take a letter die set and put 'NM' on your existing barrel! |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 12:59:01 PM EDT
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Do you know that the barrel fit in a bushing has to be judged with the barrel at an angle as it would be in battery? The 1911 barrel is tilted down to the front in battery, not parallel to the slide of frame. Really, this whole question has become inane. You have no chance of fitting any barrel or bushing to your pistol. Either hand the job over to a gunsmith or forget it before you ruin the pistol or hurt yourself. Hey, I just had an idea that can fix everything right up - take a letter die set and put 'NM' on your existing barrel! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why can't the barrel hood issue be overcome? Can't you fit the hood? The reviews on the Midway page say that it fit other 1911s, and I know CCS fits them to other 1911s. Not economically. If the barrel you have fits fine, there are ways to adjust the fit of your existing bushing. Is it loose on the barrel, or in the slide? Sort of loose on the barrel. Do you know that the barrel fit in a bushing has to be judged with the barrel at an angle as it would be in battery? The 1911 barrel is tilted down to the front in battery, not parallel to the slide of frame. Really, this whole question has become inane. You have no chance of fitting any barrel or bushing to your pistol. Either hand the job over to a gunsmith or forget it before you ruin the pistol or hurt yourself. Hey, I just had an idea that can fix everything right up - take a letter die set and put 'NM' on your existing barrel! At no point did I ever say I was going to fit the barrel, and bushing myself.  I was simply looking for a source for a specific barrel I was looking for.
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