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Posted: 7/18/2017 8:15:34 PM EDT
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None of the above! To get that kind of round count I would use a Wilson, Nighthawk, Les Baer or Ed Brown.
These guns are just broke in at 20,000 rounds. |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 8:32:59 PM EDT
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None of the above! To get that kind of round count I would use a Wilson, Nighthawk, Les Baer or Ed Brown. These guns are just broke in at 20,000 rounds. |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 8:42:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/18/2017 9:02:08 PM EDT
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OP forgot to add Springfield Armory to the poll, even though I would still vote for the Glock.
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Posted: 7/18/2017 9:03:07 PM EDT
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Any of those can and will fail at something on the way to 100K.
Springs and pins will break first, frame fatigue will also be a factor, and misc other factors to consider. Replacing spring regularly, worn parts and living properly will help you get there. |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 9:23:29 PM EDT
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Gen 2 Glock
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Posted: 7/18/2017 9:26:48 PM EDT
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A P30 or a MK25 would my choice.
A 1911 will easily do it too. |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 9:37:42 PM EDT
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USP.
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Posted: 7/18/2017 9:42:44 PM EDT
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A P30 or a MK25 would my choice. A 1911 will easily do it too. |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 9:43:12 PM EDT
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None if those, but there are probably thousands of 2011's with over 100k through them. My SV infinity finally needed a new barrel at about 90k, and I am sure is still gobbling up ammo somewhere.
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Posted: 7/18/2017 10:46:24 PM EDT
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HK P30's already gone 90k+ rds in testing! Couldn't imagine my HK P30L failing under ANY count, the Damn gun's built like a tank!
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Posted: 7/18/2017 10:52:19 PM EDT
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Are we allowed a few malfs due to a broken small part?
How about basic preventative maintenance? I'd be pretty comfortable with a beretta. Same with a good 1911. Replacing springs and or extractors, etc are pretty basic. It seems berettas break at the locking block if the recoil spring is neglected. Easy fix either way. |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 10:57:14 PM EDT
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Not a handgun, but I put well over 100k through my old O/U shotgun. Sold it, still had another 300k to go easy.
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Posted: 7/18/2017 11:19:30 PM EDT
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HK USP followed by a Glock 17 Gen 3.
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Posted: 7/18/2017 11:31:32 PM EDT
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None if those, but there are probably thousands of 2011's with over 100k through them. My SV infinity finally needed a new barrel at about 90k, and I am sure is still gobbling up ammo somewhere. From the standpoint of "how many rounds can I shoot before anything breaks", I think it would likely be HK (not the VP9). |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 12:00:17 AM EDT
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I have an old XD-40 that is close to 40,000 on it. No reason it would not make 100,000.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 12:06:13 AM EDT
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I have an old XD-40 that is close to 40,000 on it. No reason it would not make 100,000. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 12:14:27 AM EDT
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Have you closely inspected your locking block? The early ones (pre stress relief cuts) were known to crack after enough use. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have an old XD-40 that is close to 40,000 on it. No reason it would not make 100,000. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 1:24:24 AM EDT
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Glock 17
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Posted: 7/19/2017 2:06:37 AM EDT
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HK Mark 23
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Posted: 7/19/2017 3:39:09 AM EDT
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Of those I've personally owne? Beretta PX4.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 4:43:13 AM EDT
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Have you closely inspected your locking block? The early ones (pre stress relief cuts) were known to crack after enough use. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:50:07 AM EDT
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It has to be a wheel gun. S&W.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:57:38 AM EDT
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Chose GLOCK.
I have a gen 3 with over 30k thru it and a gen4 with just over 5k. My guess the gen4 will go the distance as it's my carry gun now. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 7:07:44 AM EDT
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G19
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Posted: 7/19/2017 7:13:14 AM EDT
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HK USP followed by a Glock 17 Gen 3. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 8:20:54 AM EDT
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Are you asking about 100k rounds in 13 minutes?
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Posted: 7/19/2017 8:32:23 AM EDT
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If I could only choose one it would probably be an HK USP, but I would bet a 226 or G17 would make the cut as well.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 8:50:43 AM EDT
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I think also some factors we are missing will have a profound effect on the pistol later on. What type of ammo is being shot? Are you talking about standard plinking ammo or +P? What caliber? Some calibers are much more rough on a pistol than others. (40S&W, 10mm, 357Sig all come to mind)
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Posted: 7/19/2017 9:29:29 AM EDT
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I think also some factors we are missing will have a profound effect on the pistol later on. What type of ammo is being shot? Are you talking about standard plinking ammo or +P? What caliber? Some calibers are much more rough on a pistol than others. (40S&W, 10mm, 357Sig all come to mind) |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 9:53:17 AM EDT
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I'd start with an older unfired 27 & shoot 38 specials and hope for the best if I'm not allowed to change parts along the way.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 9:56:42 AM EDT
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I'd start with an older unfired 27 & shoot 38 specials and hope for the best if I'm not allowed to change parts along the way. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 10:41:40 AM EDT
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It has to be a wheel gun. S&W. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 10:54:57 AM EDT
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1911 will rattle like a spray paint can when done. I wonder how many recoil springs will be replaced and I have seen some high round count 1911s. Not all did too well some had frame cracks and failures, some lost the plunger tubes, extractors will lose tension or fail or the ejector will come loose and fail. I highly doubt a 1911 would make it without lots of maintenance along the way. The military ran out of serviceable steel frame 1911's only a few years after they stopped buying new ones. (And they kept replacing parts until the frames broke) Your run of the mill steel frame 1911 is spent around 60k rounds |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 11:07:28 AM EDT
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Glock 17 or M&P9
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Posted: 7/19/2017 11:38:00 AM EDT
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Steel frame 1911's are WAY overrated The military ran out of serviceable steel frame 1911's only a few years after they stopped buying new ones. (And they kept replacing parts until the frames broke) Your run of the mill steel frame 1911 is spent around 60k rounds |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 11:38:56 AM EDT
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Glock all the way.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 11:42:27 AM EDT
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My four inch gp100 and 38 specials. I would probably be dead in a pile of brass before it broke.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 12:09:33 PM EDT
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1911 will rattle like a spray paint can when done. I wonder how many recoil springs will be replaced and I have seen some high round count 1911s. Not all did too well some had frame cracks and failures, some lost the plunger tubes, extractors will lose tension or fail or the ejector will come loose and fail. I highly doubt a 1911 would make it without lots of maintenance along the way. A car can't get to 300k miles without changing the oil, brakes, batteries, shocks, struts, tires, etc. Recoil springs Extractors Plunger tubes Ejectors Are all easy to change out Break a safety? That's easy too I don't consider that a lot of maintenance. Every spring on a glock, etc needs to be replaced as well. It's not an issue. It's just life. I like and carry glocks but I always laugh to myself when I see a confused shooter looking at their Glock wondering why it won't work. Sometimes it's a broken trigger return spring, or slide lock spring, etc. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 12:11:30 PM EDT
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Steel frame 1911's are WAY overrated The military ran out of serviceable steel frame 1911's only a few years after they stopped buying new ones. (And they kept replacing parts until the frames broke) Your run of the mill steel frame 1911 is spent around 60k rounds Quote HistoryQuoted:
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1911 will rattle like a spray paint can when done. I wonder how many recoil springs will be replaced and I have seen some high round count 1911s. Not all did too well some had frame cracks and failures, some lost the plunger tubes, extractors will lose tension or fail or the ejector will come loose and fail. I highly doubt a 1911 would make it without lots of maintenance along the way. The military ran out of serviceable steel frame 1911's only a few years after they stopped buying new ones. (And they kept replacing parts until the frames broke) Your run of the mill steel frame 1911 is spent around 60k rounds |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 2:38:16 PM EDT
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My HK USP 9.
Over 12,000 rounds, long way to go.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 2:49:22 PM EDT
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I consider, in this scenario, that guns and cars are pretty similar. A car can't get to 300k miles without changing the oil, brakes, batteries, shocks, struts, tires, etc. Recoil springs Extractors Plunger tubes Ejectors Are all easy to change out Break a safety? That's easy too I don't consider that a lot of maintenance. Every spring on a glock, etc needs to be replaced as well. It's not an issue. It's just life. I like and carry glocks but I always laugh to myself when I see a confused shooter looking at their Glock wondering why it won't work. Sometimes it's a broken trigger return spring, or slide lock spring, etc. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 2:49:37 PM EDT
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Hasn't Ron from BFLV been having a lot of issues with glocks cracking recently? I have always loved Glock but it seems like the new ones don't really have the longevity that one would expect based on reputation.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 3:06:13 PM EDT
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Hasn't Ron from BFLV been having a lot of issues with glocks cracking recently? I have always loved Glock but it seems like the new ones don't really have the longevity that one would expect based on reputation Quote HistoryQuoted:
Hasn't Ron from BFLV been having a lot of issues with glocks cracking recently? I have always loved Glock but it seems like the new ones don't really have the longevity that one would expect based on reputation From the first post in that thread: I can tell you that even though I am not a "Glock guy", it is the most reliable handgun in our inventory and I would trust it with my life. We use Gen1-Gen4 17's on the line and they are the most hassle-free handgun we have. I used my original Gen1 17 when we first opened two and a half years ago and it finally broke about six months ago. When I say broke, Glock's pretty much are the only handgun that suffer a "catastrophic" break. The slide cracks right at the narrow portion at the ejection port. They will continue to fire most of the time but the rounds group at the top right corner of the target. The factory recoil springs are amazing because the just keep going. The Glock gets used probably 10X as much as our Beretta M92's so it's not a fair to say the Beretta is more reliable (see below). We don't use aftermarket slides on our Glocks so I couldn't give you any info those because Glock will replace our cracked slides under warranty. Also, I don't meant to give the impression that breake slides all the time but it would be fair to say that they get at least 100,000 rounds before cracking. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 3:19:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/19/2017 3:29:29 PM EDT
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Henderson Defense real world torture test show Glocks slides break way before 100,000 rounds
even though they continue to fire Beretta 92FS is a solid go to gun. . .if your life depends on it, why F around? My bug out bag does not leave home without it |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 3:37:51 PM EDT
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I really like Glocks and wish I could vote for them but the Beretta 92 is an extremely durable pistol if you maintain it at all. Henderson's long term results bear this out.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 4:03:05 PM EDT
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Plunger tube and ejectors are not exactly just drop in they have to be stacked. The ejector has to be tuned and fitted same with a new safety so it is not as easy as just drop in parts. I have built and worked on enough 1911s to know that most quality parts are not drop in. VS a Glock, Sig, HK, Beretta, etc etc the parts are drop in or near drop in. A 1911 requires much more knowledge of the system and how it works. The average shooter and majority of 1911 owners would not know how to long term maintain the system to reach 100K. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I consider, in this scenario, that guns and cars are pretty similar. A car can't get to 300k miles without changing the oil, brakes, batteries, shocks, struts, tires, etc. Recoil springs Extractors Plunger tubes Ejectors Are all easy to change out Break a safety? That's easy too I don't consider that a lot of maintenance. Every spring on a glock, etc needs to be replaced as well. It's not an issue. It's just life. I like and carry glocks but I always laugh to myself when I see a confused shooter looking at their Glock wondering why it won't work. Sometimes it's a broken trigger return spring, or slide lock spring, etc. Most people don't have the knowledge to change out wheel bearings either. But that's not a knock on a car needing maintenance. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 4:09:22 PM EDT
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I didn't say they were drop in. Most people don't have the knowledge to change out wheel bearings either. But that's not a knock on a car needing maintenance. Are all easy to change out Break a safety? That's easy too |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:16:08 PM EDT
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Henderson Defense real world torture test show Glocks slides break way before 100,000 rounds even though they continue to fire Beretta 92FS is a solid go to gun. . .if your life depends on it, why F around? My bug out bag does not leave home without it You do have a spare locking block, right? |
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