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Posted: 7/28/2014 2:44:53 PM EDT
I don't want to know why I shouldn't buy it; I already have several reasons why I shouldn't. I want to know why I should.
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Unless you could buy it so cheap that you would still save money after buying a caliber conversion barrel.
or so cheap that you could buy it and a couple hundred rounds of defensive ammunition to stash in a hidden cache buried somewhere. |
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And to think one of my threads was going to be "Whats the point of the Glock 37,38, or 39"
The only possible reason I could think of is you hate 1911s or you've bought all other glocks and want something different |
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No reason at all unless, as mentioned, it was so cheap you could convert it into something else. Or if you just want to buy a gun that people in 50 years will say "a .45GAP?? What is that?".
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I could not justify the cost of ammo., let alone trying to find it. It was the answer to a problem that did not exist. Glock is now making slim frame models in 45 acp, which is what they should have done to begin with.
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There isn't a reason I can think of to buy something in .45 GAP. It's a completely pointless round, and the benefits that they touted when it came out are so miniscule that they just as well be nonexistent.
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The only way for me is if I was gifted about 1,500 rounds of GAP ammo and that is if at least 500 were JHP's.
One guy I Know offered to trade me 500 rounds of .357 SIG for 250 rounds of .40. I turned him down as I do not want to get into another caliber. That is that I can find .357 SIG at Academy Sports, but it is expensive. I am too heavily invested in 9MM. |
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Ammo. In the deepest, darkest days of the last panic .45 GAP was still on the shelves. The key to "surviving" panic times is caliber diversity.
Or having the forethought to buy a good stash during the salad days. |
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As a glock fan I can't think of any reason to unless you want to own an example or every model.
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Are they still being actively produced?
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Like someone said, if there's nothing on the shelves but special snowflake rounds like .45GAP, you won't be ENTIRELY screwed.
Then again, that's why I own a S&W 625. Shoots .45ACP, .45AutoRim, and .45GAP. I've only ever fired .45ACP through it, but the hardware store has had a few boxes of .45GAP in the cabinet, unmoved, for 3 years. Didn't even move during the panic. It's a very small bit of comfort. |
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Quite frankly, of all the different Glock models, I think the Glock Models 37, 38, & 39 have the greatest future investment value. As prime candidates for one of tomorrow's curios and relics no other pistol even comes close! If I were going to pick a pistol to buy now, hold onto for a decade or two, and then put up for sale as an unusual historical antique, it would be one of these odd-ball caliber Glock abortions.
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Are they still being actively produced? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote Yep Link but still a possibility they did a limited line |
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Did Glock think that other gun manufacturers would follow suit and produce guns in 45GAP? This round just seems like a big fail. Which begs the question, when will they stop making guns in 45GAP?
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Quite frankly, of all the different Glock models, I think the Glock Models 37, 38, & 39 have the greatest future investment value. As prime candidates for one of tomorrow's curios and relics no other pistol even comes close! If I were going to pick a pistol to buy now, hold onto for a decade or two, and then put up for sale as an unusual historical antique, it would be one of these odd-ball caliber Glock abortions. View Quote This is about the only thing that makes sense. I think we have a winner. |
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Did Glock think that other gun manufacturers would follow suit and produce guns in 45GAP? This round just seems like a big fail. Which begs the question, when will they stop making guns in 45GAP? Thanks View Quote I think the story goes (and if im wrong someone correct me) Glock wanted to do the power of the .45 ACP but in the size of the 17/22 frame. Where it really came up short is the magazine size being 10 rounds, most likely leading to no one wanting it. |
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I think the frame and mags aren't going to take a ACP round, so I don't know what you'd convert it to.
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Quite frankly, of all the different Glock models, I think the Glock Models 37, 38, & 39 have the greatest future investment value. As prime candidates for one of tomorrow's curios and relics no other pistol even comes close! If I were going to pick a pistol to buy now, hold onto for a decade or two, and then put up for sale as an unusual historical antique, it would be one of these odd-ball caliber Glock abortions. View Quote Not on a gun that doesn't have a ready supply of new or surplus ammo. |
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I think the story goes (and if im wrong someone correct me) Glock wanted to do the power of the .45 ACP but in the size of the 17/22 frame. Where it really came up short is the magazine size being 10 rounds, most likely leading to no one wanting it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Did Glock think that other gun manufacturers would follow suit and produce guns in 45GAP? This round just seems like a big fail. Which begs the question, when will they stop making guns in 45GAP? Thanks I think the story goes (and if im wrong someone correct me) Glock wanted to do the power of the .45 ACP but in the size of the 17/22 frame. Where it really came up short is the magazine size being 10 rounds, most likely leading to no one wanting it. That and the giant slide. |
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I guess the OP and I are the only fans of the GAP. Not a problem.
I like being able to shoot a 45 bullet out of a small frame Glock. I can reload the GAP and have had no trouble finding factory practice ammo or hollow points for it. Some say just get a 1911, but the 37 can give me greater ammo capacity. The 1911 and I just never got along together. I also have a 21 and 21SF. The brass and ammo are actually cheaper for me cause no one else wants it. If I use it at a match, the brass whores bring my brass back to me cause they can't use it and they know who shot it. I got a good deal on brass from a PD range officer in Florida through the Glocktalk website. 5000 rounds of brass for $200.00. The majority of the parts for the 37 interchange with the other Glocks I have. Only a few don't and they are easy to find at various Glock parts websites. I have enough brass, magazines and parts for my two 37's to last longer than I will. That's the reasons I have that come to mind at the moment. |
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If they would've used a 36 width slide, they would have sold like hotcakes.
Lets not forget, GAP is an AWB child. 10 rounds was all you could have. |
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If the ammunition is not normally available in commercial channels, does that make them antique?
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I also thought the Glock 37 was introduced in the AWB in the 90's with the 10 round limit. For reloaders and people with small hands the 45 GAP is a viable choice. I know a Sheriff who carried a Glock 38 in civies and I'll admit it was nice shooting accurate pistol. A friend and I found a new 37 cheap after they were released. Money was tight so we went halves on the pistol just so we could play with it. I really think the 37 was softer shooting than the Glock 22 with most ammo. For people who like 45's it's still a 45 caliber bullet and Glock produce good velocity.
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I don't want to know why I shouldn't buy it; I already have several reasons why I shouldn't. I want to know why I should. Thanks! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote You know not to buy it stick with your gut. |
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There's no reason to buy it, unless you want a .45 in a 'small' (now really their 'mid') framed Glock.
Like I did. Then it's the only way to get a bullet that big in a gun with a grip that small, which was, by the way, its whole raison d' etre. Larry |
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Expensive to feed compared to the equally effective 9mm counterpart.
Don't do it. |
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If painting yourself into a corner is one of your favorite past times then I say do it.
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A very good reason to buy it is if you found VERY cheap range and defense ammo in copious supply.
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Quite frankly, of all the different Glock models, I think the Glock Models 37, 38, & 39 have the greatest future investment value. As prime candidates for one of tomorrow's curios and relics no other pistol even comes close! If I were going to pick a pistol to buy now, hold onto for a decade or two, and then put up for sale as an unusual historical antique, it would be one of these odd-ball caliber Glock abortions. View Quote I'll take incorrect for 1000 Alex. |
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Calibers I would consider before the .45 GAP:
.357 Sig 10 mm .38 Super 9 x 23 I have seen a brand new in box G38 priced at $349 and it didn't move for 2 years. I have seen piles of .45 GAP ammo collecting dust before the store owner sold the lot of dirt cheap to someone to get rid of it. I have fired the G38 and I did like it, it's just not practical. |
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Do you reload? If so, the GAP is a great way to get revenge on anyone who steels your brass.
-Deke
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Not on a gun that doesn't have a ready supply of new or surplus ammo. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quite frankly, of all the different Glock models, I think the Glock Models 37, 38, & 39 have the greatest future investment value. As prime candidates for one of tomorrow's curios and relics no other pistol even comes close! If I were going to pick a pistol to buy now, hold onto for a decade or two, and then put up for sale as an unusual historical antique, it would be one of these odd-ball caliber Glock abortions. Not on a gun that doesn't have a ready supply of new or surplus ammo. Exactly - go look at what a Walther PP in 9x18 Ultra is worth - (Hint: Less than a PP or PPK in .380.) |
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You should buy it just because everyone is telling you not too... Including me.
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Exactly - go look at what a Walther PP in 9x18 Ultra is worth - (Hint: Less than a PP or PPK in .380.) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quite frankly, of all the different Glock models, I think the Glock Models 37, 38, & 39 have the greatest future investment value. As prime candidates for one of tomorrow's curios and relics no other pistol even comes close! If I were going to pick a pistol to buy now, hold onto for a decade or two, and then put up for sale as an unusual historical antique, it would be one of these odd-ball caliber Glock abortions. Not on a gun that doesn't have a ready supply of new or surplus ammo. Exactly - go look at what a Walther PP in 9x18 Ultra is worth - (Hint: Less than a PP or PPK in .380.) Right, rarity alone generally does not generate value. There almost always has to be some other factor such as historic significance to generate value. |
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I don't want to know why I shouldn't buy it; I already have several reasons why I shouldn't. I want to know why I should. Thanks! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote You'll have all the ammo to yourself? Aside from that i got nothin... |
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If you haven't already, satisfy your 45 jones with 30 series
30s, 30sf, or Gen 4s Get some G21 13 rnd mags and you got firepower in a smallish package |
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Ammo. In the deepest, darkest days of the last panic .45 GAP was still on the shelves. The key to "surviving" panic times is caliber diversity. Or having the forethought to buy a good stash during the salad days. View Quote This. The local Cabelas had only 2 handgun calibers available during the height of the panic, 45 GAP and .327 Federal. To the OP; Don't. Unless you insist on having an oddball caliber. EDIT: grammar |
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feels like a scaled up .380 ACP producing .45ACP non +p non special effects. I guess the idea is if the frame you are using is relatively small, there is an increment of advantage. Want a goofy cartridge that seems redundant but isn't? Go with a .50GI. That blows up watermelons really good without recoil to match. I think mechanically, the .50GI does everything the .45 GAP advertisers want you to think their round does.
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I guess the OP and I are the only fans of the GAP. Not a problem. I like being able to shoot a 45 bullet out of a small frame Glock. I can reload the GAP and have had no trouble finding factory practice ammo or hollow points for it. Some say just get a 1911, but the 37 can give me greater ammo capacity. The 1911 and I just never got along together. I also have a 21 and 21SF. The brass and ammo are actually cheaper for me cause no one else wants it. If I use it at a match, the brass whores bring my brass back to me cause they can't use it and they know who shot it. I got a good deal on brass from a PD range officer in Florida through the Glocktalk website. 5000 rounds of brass for $200.00. The majority of the parts for the 37 interchange with the other Glocks I have. Only a few don't and they are easy to find at various Glock parts websites. I have enough brass, magazines and parts for my two 37's to last longer than I will. That's the reasons I have that come to mind at the moment. How do powder charges compare to comparable .45 acp loads? I assume lower, and higher pressure? View Quote |
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