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Posted: 12/10/2016 1:47:32 PM EDT
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Edit - someone needs to drink coffee and then post on Saturday mornings... see my followup...
SP-01 Tactical - Decocker - easier to "Make Ready" in SSP, can't be run cocked and locked and otherwise must be "SSP" legal to run in ESP, so it's more of a one division gun. My two cents, either are fine. The safety model adds some division flexibility even though it needs to stay in SSP configuration. |
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Posted: 12/10/2016 1:54:56 PM EDT
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SP-01 - Safety model, manually decock (all the way to the slide) if you run SSP. Can be run cocked and locked in ESP with the SSP exemption. SP-01 Tactical - Decocker - easier to "Make Ready" in SSP, can't be run cocked and locked and otherwise must be "SSP" legal to run in ESP, so it's more of a one division gun. My two cents, either are fine. The safety model adds some division flexibility even though it needs to stay in SSP configuration. So the safety model can be run cocked and locked from the holster in production? I'm not familiar with your acronyms sorry. @Ulfhednar_42 |
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Posted: 12/10/2016 1:55:49 PM EDT
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double tap
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Posted: 12/10/2016 2:53:17 PM EDT
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So the safety model can be run cocked and locked from the holster in production? I'm not familiar with your acronyms sorry. @Ulfhednar_42 Sorry derp moment - I posted before coffee and was having a heck of brain fart. I replaced USPSA with IDPA for some reason. Strike my entire previous reply... USPSA is a bit more permissive on the approved list, if you are flush with cash, you can run an accu-shadow from CZ-Custom. Whether the 1000 dollar uptick in cost is worthwhile to you is a different matter entirely. You'll have to draw and fire from decocked in production, the decocker makes this easier - 1 it's a lever push, 2 it drops the hammer half way meaning there's a bit less trigger pull to fire from draw. If you start replacing parts, the safety models supposedly have more potential. I don't have a tuned decocker to tell the difference with. |
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Posted: 12/10/2016 2:57:21 PM EDT
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Get a tanfoglio
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Posted: 12/10/2016 3:05:20 PM EDT
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Sorry derp moment - I posted before coffee and was having a heck of brain fart. I replaced USPSA with IDPA for some reason. Strike my entire previous reply... USPSA is a bit more permissive on the approved list, if you are flush with cash, you can run an accu-shadow from CZ-Custom. Whether the 1000 dollar uptick in cost is worthwhile to you is a different matter entirely. You'll have to draw and fire from decocked in production, the decocker makes this easier - 1 it's a lever push, 2 it drops the hammer half way meaning there's a bit less trigger pull to fire from draw. If you start replacing parts, the safety models supposedly have more potential. I don't have a tuned decocker to tell the difference with. Okay so sounds like a decocker model is what I would need for production since you can't run cocked and locked. Thanks for the help! I would probably just get the tactical model instead of splurging on a 1k gun right away. @Ulfhednar_42 |
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Posted: 12/10/2016 3:31:01 PM EDT
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Okay so sounds like a decocker model is what I would need for production since you can't run cocked and locked. Thanks for the help! I would probably just get the tactical model instead of splurging on a 1k gun right away. @Ulfhednar_42 You can decock the safety model, but you have to pull the trigger and let the hammer down slowly by holding it, let go of the trigger and let the hammer come to rest. I'm sure this has at some point or another caused a ND and MDQ, it's something to practice with on snap caps to avoid winging it and going home early. |
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Posted: 12/10/2016 10:21:44 PM EDT
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Just get a SP-01 Tactical.
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Posted: 12/11/2016 8:02:19 PM EDT
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SP-01 Tactical with a CGW Production Legal Kit or just wait for the Shadow 2
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Posted: 12/11/2016 9:13:54 PM EDT
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If you're starting from scratch in USPSA Production, go for the Shadow 2.
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Posted: 12/12/2016 10:56:51 PM EDT
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No one shoots a decocker in production.
Get the base level Shadow SP01 or the Tanfo Stock II. |
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Posted: 12/12/2016 10:58:30 PM EDT
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You can decock the safety model, but you have to pull the trigger and let the hammer down slowly by holding it, let go of the trigger and let the hammer come to rest. I'm sure this has at some point or another caused a ND and MDQ, it's something to practice with on snap caps to avoid winging it and going home early. It's not an issue. |
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Posted: 12/19/2016 10:06:25 PM EDT
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This
CZ Custom SP01 Shadow custom 2014. / thread I shoot one in production. It got me to A class. My wife shoots one in production. I also have a 2013 CZ75 Shadow, same gun but with short dust cover instead of rail. |
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Posted: 12/19/2016 10:34:39 PM EDT
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It's not an issue. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can decock the safety model, but you have to pull the trigger and let the hammer down slowly by holding it, let go of the trigger and let the hammer come to rest. I'm sure this has at some point or another caused a ND and MDQ, it's something to practice with on snap caps to avoid winging it and going home early. It's not an issue. It's just not an issue, blocking the hammer with your thumb makes it impossible for anything bad to happen if you've got two neurons rubbing between your ears. |
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Posted: 12/20/2016 4:20:33 PM EDT
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Yeah. I do this with live rounds 20+ times a week on the range and every new RO/SO & fellow shooter says the same thing, "man, that makes me uneasy, I could never do that." It's just not an issue, blocking the hammer with your thumb makes it impossible for anything bad to happen if you've got two neurons rubbing between your ears. I thought my point was pretty clear - if you're going to get a safety model and run production, practice decocking it, know how before you LMR, and keep it pointed at the backstop when you do. Given the latest video shooting around the intertubes today, I'm sure there are a few spare neurons out there. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 8:15:43 PM EDT
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Late reply, but the CZ Shadow 2 looks awesome. Thanks for the input guys. The idea of decocking a safety model doesn't bother me really.
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Posted: 2/13/2017 9:13:40 PM EDT
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If I was going to compete, I would have no problem running my SP01 Shadow from the CZ Custom Shop. IMO, one of the best handguns you can get for under $1000.
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Posted: 2/22/2017 11:34:19 PM EDT
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If you can, get the Shadow. You won't be disappointed
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Posted: 2/23/2017 5:20:58 PM EDT
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If you can, get the Shadow. You won't be disappointed http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc426/jlheard3/DSC00441.jpg Awesome looking gun. I just talked to CZ-USA and decided I am going to be waiting on the Shadow 2. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 10:17:04 PM EDT
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I have been looking for an answer to this same question. I gather from the previous posts that the shadow 2 WILL be uspsa production legal. Is this correct?
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Posted: 2/27/2017 10:28:59 PM EDT
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I bought a Custom Shop SP-01 Shadow earlier this year. If I were to shoot competition, this is the gun I would use. Best pistol you can buy for under $1000.
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Posted: 2/27/2017 10:59:48 PM EDT
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Is that effectively a SP-01 Shadow?
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Posted: 2/27/2017 11:39:41 PM EDT
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I have been looking for an answer to this same question. I gather from the previous posts that the shadow 2 WILL be uspsa production legal. Is this correct? Yes, it is not on the production list yet but it will be eventually. The sooner the better. @PhilDNice. I currently am on a pre-order list for one. |
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Posted: 3/3/2017 9:31:12 AM EDT
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For $850 the CZ Custom SP01 shadow is ready to go out of the box. Upgrade parts on a stock gun would get you in that price range if you want to tinker.
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Posted: 3/3/2017 9:40:58 AM EDT
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Shadow custom target. Adjustable sights, no firing pin block, dead sexy trigger straight out of the box. I used one for the last year and had pretty good success with it.
Middle one in this family pic. 
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Posted: 3/3/2017 2:33:18 PM EDT
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I started w/ the SP-01, had Matt Mink work on it, then eventually moved to an Accu-Shadow. IF you stick with the sport, you will eventually want to ditch the FPB. Why you can't chuck it out of your SP-01 when a Shadow exists is a bit ridiculous to me, but that's the rules.
Long story short? Start with a Shadow if you can get one. Prices may be coming down a hair now that Shadow II's are shipping. |
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Posted: 3/3/2017 2:47:52 PM EDT
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I started w/ the SP-01, had Matt Mink work on it, then eventually moved to an Accu-Shadow. IF you stick with the sport, you will eventually want to ditch the FPB. Why you can't chuck it out of your SP-01 when a Shadow exists is a bit ridiculous to me, but that's the rules. Long story short? Start with a Shadow if you can get one. Prices may be coming down a hair now that Shadow II's are shipping. |
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Posted: 3/3/2017 4:14:01 PM EDT
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I started w/ the SP-01, had Matt Mink work on it, then eventually moved to an Accu-Shadow. IF you stick with the sport, you will eventually want to ditch the FPB. Why you can't chuck it out of your SP-01 when a Shadow exists is a bit ridiculous to me, but that's the rules. Long story short? Start with a Shadow if you can get one. Prices may be coming down a hair now that Shadow II's are shipping. Went ahead and pre ordered a Shadow 2. |
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