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How old it that Winchester Ammo? I ask because my carry ammo is currently Winchester PDX1 130 JHP and the brass fits very nicely on the OEM moonclips that came with my 442. Now I have a bunch of 38 brass that I got for reloading and most of that Winchester brass will not fit on the OEM moon clips. It older but how much older I don't know.
Seems maybe new Winchester is starting fall in line with the other manufactures? It interesting since there is no actually moonclip groove dimensional specification, not even from SAAMI. The SAAMI drawings for 38 and 357 have no moonclip grooves. I have even found actual brass from some off brands that do not have the moonclip grooves cut in them.
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How old it that Winchester Ammo? I ask because my carry ammo is currently Winchester PDX1 130 JHP and the brass fits very nicely on the OEM moonclips that came with my 442. Now I have a bunch of 38 brass that I got for reloading and most of that Winchester brass will not fit on the OEM moon clips. It older but how much older I don't know.
Seems maybe new Winchester is starting fall in line with the other manufactures? It interesting since there is no actually moonclip groove dimensional specification, not even from SAAMI. The SAAMI drawings for 38 and 357 have no moonclip grooves. I have even found actual brass from some off brands that do not have the moonclip grooves cut in them.
The Winchester stuff in that photo is obviously some old stock... looks to be from the 80's or earlier. Vintage, if you will. Ha!
Tonight I bought a box of the PDX Winchester stuff myself, before I came back and looked at this thread, and I was pleasantly surprised that it fit the OEM clips as well.
I am going to put a few different types of ammo through this 442 and see how close the different types hit to the sights. IIRC these things are regulated for 158gr ammo... and I want to know where things are going before I settle on a carry load. The Ranger Bonded/PDX-1 load is high on my list of hopefuls.
I do wish I could find some FGMM wad cutter to try.
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