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Posted: 2/17/2014 8:49:59 PM EDT
if you had to choose between one or the other, which would it be?
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it is nice seeing on AR15.com we are peaceful in debates. I do have a question, as a new member and not a team member can i still have an avatar picture?
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I'm a S&W revolver fan to the core so 640
The SP101 is a fine gun... Owned one.. Shot great... Traded it off years back for something...? |
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Oh, is there some kind of free membership? View Quote Yeah, you've got it. the others are here |
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For daily carry, 642. If you want something to shoot a lot of rounds through at one time then the sp101.
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I was in the market for a SP and came across a 60.
Fell in love with it and never looked back. Two friend with SP's have shot it and fell in love. Although unusual my 60 has the smoothest trigger we've all ever seen. Two other friends have Pythons and we all agree the 60 has a smoother single and double action trigger. My 60 was a display model and I got a great deal on it. We think that maybe it was dry fired so much it smoothed out an unusually smooth trigger. Funny thing is that it does not have the line around that cylinder that usually shows up with that much handling. EVERYONE who has shot my 60 and SP's has fell in love with it. Oddly enough I am the only person in my group of friends who has ever owned one. |
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I have shot a 3 inch model 60 but not an sp101, which is why I am asking this question.
Thank you for replying |
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If S&W made a Model 60 with an 8 3/8" barrel it would still be lighter than an SP101.
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I was in the market for a SP and came across a 60. Fell in love with it and never looked back. Two friend with SP's have shot it and fell in love. Although unusual my 60 has the smoothest trigger we've all ever seen. Two other friends have Pythons and we all agree the 60 has a smoother single and double action trigger. My 60 was a display model and I got a great deal on it. We think that maybe it was dry fired so much it smoothed out an unusually smooth trigger. Funny thing is that it does not have the line around that cylinder that usually shows up with that much handling. EVERYONE who has shot my 60 and SP's has fell in love with it. Oddly enough I am the only person in my group of friends who has ever owned one. View Quote S&W triggers tend to get smoother with time but some of them are just real smooth from the start. I like the craftsmanship and beauty of the Pythons but the triggers on the Colts just break different than the S&Ws and I much prefer the S&W. The Rugers are fine guns , I own some and have owned several SP101s but they weigh more than they should and even after a spring job the triggers are just not as good as a S&W . If I want a heavier gun for range use I will just grab a bigger S&W. Lots more choices for grips out there for the S&W . Bottom line for me is the whole thing about shooting a double action revolver is all about the trigger and that puts the S&W guns at the top of my list |
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Was looking for a 357 Magnum, last week.
LGS had an SP101, 2.25" barrel, NIB. Bought it for $425.00. Had to get it. |
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I had two model 60's , a 3 inch and a 2 inch and sold them both once I bought my 3 inch SP101. I like the weight of the Ruger and the trigger was almost as good as the Smith, the Ruger was cheaper and came without a stupid internal lock.
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Between the two I say 640 but see if you can handle a 638 at the gun counter. You might like it
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If you're going to carry a gun, you had best train with it, and practice with it - or you're a liability with it.
Train with a load as close to your carry load as possible. Put plenty of rounds down range. That is why I no longer buy guns designed "to be carried often, & shot little." I carry & train with full size 1911's, other 45's and the SP101. They will easily outlive the round count lifespan of lightweight allow S&W's. |
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I've had both. Prefer the weight of the 101. 26 oz vs 23 oz.
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Thank you to everyone who has posted on this thread. But just for some clarification which I stupidly left out; I am not talking about the 640, but the newer model 3inch barreled 60, and for those who say it is to big for carry, I would not be carrying this firearm.
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I would go with the SP101 still.
Accurate enough to hit a 6" steel plate at 50 yards (even easier with CT laser grips), and can be carried if you want. Heavy enough to take hot loads all day long, but light enough to carry all day & hardly notice. |
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I had a 2 1/4" SP101.
Sold it last year. It was way too heavy for a low capacity snub nose. If it had been the 3" version, I likely would have kept it. Were I to buy again now, I would buy the 3" Smith, primarily because I have a fair amount of holsters and the like for the S&W's (J frame airweights). And based on owning the others, I'd just as soon keep the feel and operation of the gun 100% uniform. If I had no revolvers and was starting with a clean slate....... tough call. Both are good guns. maybe a slight edge to the S&W because you could expand "the family" later with guns that only differed in weight and finish. |
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Of the two, I would choose SP101.
I don't like S&W's trigger lock holes in the receiver. |
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I have a 3" S&W Model 60Pro and a 3" SP101. After working the trigger of both, they are nearly equal, except for the sights of the SP101. I cured that by having J frame sights installed on the 101. I never realized just how accurate the 101 was until it had good sights. The 101 is a bit heavier than the 60, but it is built like an anvil. Your selection will ultimately be based on personal choice.
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Or should I get a gp100? View Quote I was a die hard S&W guy. Was. The new Smiths lack the soul the older guns possessed. I was very impressed with the Ruger Wiley Clapp. So much so that I bought a second as a spare. Really handles well. The trigger, out of the box, is not bad at all. Even when compared SxS with a S&W Performance Center 681. |
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This is off topic, but if I do buy a GP100, does anyone know where I could get my hands on the original inlaid grips?
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This is off topic, but if I do buy a GP100, does anyone know where I could get my hands on the original inlaid grips? View Quote The EE here or eBay. You never said what you want the revolver for OP. An SP, 60, and GP all perform best under different uses. You will probably never have an SP or GP that has an action as smooth as a 60, or as easily carried. You will never have a 60 that will take range after range day of magnum loads without protest. The usual answer is, the S&W is to be carried and shot with light loads at the range to extend its life, and the SP/GPs are to be shot and abused but carried less. |
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Some here are comparing the 101 to a S&W 642 . Sort of a apples and oranges comparison due to size and weight.
The OP's original question of a 101 compared to a S&W 60 is a more reasonable comparison. A 101 is way easier to find used as there are more of them around . The extra weight of the Ruger makes it a bit easier to shoot but it is a brick to carry . The Ruger trigger isn't horrible and can be mastered with lots of practice but if a person shoots lots of different pistols , some with nice triggers , it is a real chore to shoot it well . I will admit to being somewhat of a trigger snob so my choice would pretty much be a S&W revolver every time over the Ruger I don't sell many guns but I have traded off my security six and two sp101s not because they were bad guns but because across the board all my S&W revolvers had way better triggers . My pocket gun of choice is a S&W 642 but the Ruger LCR line actually has a similar very good trigger . It's not just the weight of pull but the whole feel and release |
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I like the SP101. My cousin has had one for the last 10 years and he's shot it with a lot of heavy loads and it is still tight. A friend bought his wife the model 60 and she shoots a lot of 38 special out of it and does well with it. To me the Ruger is a heavily built gun and it is more comfortable to shoot.
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Am i the only one that like the DA pull on rugers better? Not completely sure if they have a shorter reach but i sure shoot them better. Talking about gp100 not sure if sp101 is the same.
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If its not for carry then the gp100 all the way. SS 6". Feed it with BB heavy magnums. Everything else seems wimpy.
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Am i the only one that like the DA pull on rugers better? Not completely sure if they have a shorter reach but i sure shoot them better. Talking about gp100 not sure if sp101 is the same. View Quote I have two GP100 Wiley Clapps and a Wiley Clapp SP101. The SP's trigger is not as nice but dropping down from a full size revolver to a Snubby and the pull has to get a little harder due to the geometry involved. Basically you are using smaller levers so less leverage. That said I think the trigger on my WC SP101 is better than a stock J-Frame. |
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Both are nice revolvers but I prefer S&W due to smoother action and lighter weight. The Ruger would probably survive a nuclear attack however and is nice just heavy and not as nice of action.
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