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Posted: 3/26/2016 9:47:27 AM EDT
I have always lusted after the Mark 23. It's been one of the few guns I have obsessed over - especially after shooting one - but had always been more than I was willing to spend on a handgun.
I noticed prices have dropped almost $1k from when I last looked, and I would be selling a USP 45 to help fund it. Yes, I know they are large. But it would be a dedicated suppressor host (TiRant 45M on the way) and would never leave the house except to go to the range. I have a dedicated carry weapon. My mind is pretty much made up, but I was hoping someone could pitch in some advice. Thanks. |
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[#1]
For your intended purposes of range, not carry, it is a great choice. It is insanely robust and can withstand a lot of abuse even by HK standards, is very easy to shoot with accuracy, comes with great sights/trigger and a threaded barrel, and is considered a 'Grail gun' of sorts. It's right up there with the desert eagle and five-seven in terms of guns with very little practical application (that wouldn't better be served by other choices), that is still insanely cool and fun to own. I just got my five-seven, after I get the desert eagle, the Mk.23 is on my short list of 'fun range guns'.
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If I had the money to spare its one of the guns I would buy for your same reasons. Not many handguns have been built to be a offensive weapon and the mark 23 was made to be that. Most handguns are defensive weapons. Theres a couple on the E.E. That I keep eyeballing but can't swing it right now.
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Nope, cannot talk you out of one. Not all purchases have to be a dedicated operator level tier 1 one gun to do it all. It's okay to have a range toy.
And before anyone calls it a crew served, it is not and you need to do more PT. |
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Do it... Do it now! Be sure to get a suppressor to go with it. She is my favorite pistol to shoot.
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The longer sight radius and 5.87" barrel make this a long slide pistol so the mk23 should be compared to long slides not usp and g21 size pistols. The difference in this compared to a g41 or long slide 1911 is the fact that this pistol was heavily over built for 185gr +p+ loads, these loads in many ways are better than 10mm loads due to the extra sectional density. The long dust cover combined with an aftermarket pic rail adaptor give more mounting flexibility than most pistols. The trigger action is like a sig with a cocked andnlocked feature, plus the pistol can nit be accidentally placed on safe in the double action mode like a beretta slide. Also a feature I like is in the winter I can easily use heavy gloves with this pistol. Another plus is the spare parts are cheaper than other hk not that this tough pistol would ever need them.
Down side holster choices are limited unless you have a kydex made for it. The other downside is having to explain why this pistol is so great. |
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Thanks for all the replies. Are there really no options out there for tritium night sights for the Mark 23? I've found nothing but forums of people asking the same question...
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Thanks for all the replies. Are there really no options out there for tritium night sights for the Mark 23? I've found nothing but forums of people asking the same question... View Quote At one time hk offered them idk now though, besides just mount an ir laser and use your nvg pvs7/14 and own the night!!! Hk parts specialist sells am awesome pic rail adaptor |
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But a Ti-Rant 45M has no place on that gun. All about the KAC OHG.Mine: View Quote I would take a Tirant , Osprey or any newer can over the KAC can if quiet is a main consideration, IMHO. The KAC is the original equipment suppressor and has not changed (much) since the 90's. Its heavy, expensive and louder than current technology cans and limited for use on other hosts if that matters. The KAC dry is around 140 DB while the Osprey and others are around 133 DB which is a big difference. The matching LAM is a nice piece as well but crazy priced for an incandescent light but does look cool as hell.... |
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Quoted: I would take a Tirant , Osprey or any newer can over the KAC can if quiet is a main consideration, IMHO. The KAC is the original equipment suppressor and has not changed (much) since the 90's. Its heavy, expensive and louder than current technology cans and limited for use on other hosts if that matters. The KAC dry is around 140 DB while the Osprey and others are around 133 DB which is a big difference. The matching LAM is a nice piece as well but crazy priced for an incandescent light but does look cool as hell.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: But a Ti-Rant 45M has no place on that gun. All about the KAC OHG.Mine: I would take a Tirant , Osprey or any newer can over the KAC can if quiet is a main consideration, IMHO. The KAC is the original equipment suppressor and has not changed (much) since the 90's. Its heavy, expensive and louder than current technology cans and limited for use on other hosts if that matters. The KAC dry is around 140 DB while the Osprey and others are around 133 DB which is a big difference. The matching LAM is a nice piece as well but crazy priced for an incandescent light but does look cool as hell.... If you are buying a Mark 23 you are already buying outdated, overpriced awesomeness. Might as well go all in. |
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The KAC can is around 1500 to 1600, I would consider getting an Osprey or Rugged Obsidian, not only do you save five or six hundred but it's the quietest can currently on the market and its cleanable and has a lot of options the other cans don't, like the ability to go shorter and still be pretty quiet besides being able to use it on other guns and interchangeable Pistons with the Octane or Osprey incase you have them already or decide to get in the future.
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I came across a good deal on a used one 10+ years ago and have never regretted buying it. I love shooting it and my kids love shooting it because of the low recoil, the cool factor, and the fact that it is easy to shoot well. |
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I got a used one from my boss in 2008 for $1100. I love it. I have a TiRant 45 for mine, and at the time it was the quietest .45 can available. Maybe still is, idk. I would not get the KAC can, unless you just want to be really "authentic". I had a chance at a real Insight IR LAM once, but at $1600 it just didn't seem worth it. I'd like to rig something IR laser+illum for it that fits in a holster. I see there is now new gen civi stuff out there.
As has been said, it's super smooth, ridiculously accurate, and eats anything you feed it. The "selling points" are that it can fire .45+P+ (.45 Super) and weak WWB from the same mag without changing springs, and a minimum 60,000 round service life is easily attainable with no degradation in performance. A friend of mine loaded up some .45 Super casings to the old Triton Navy specs and it was impressive. You're looking at 100 yard .45 lethality. Yes it will hit and kill at that range. I keep a mag of those, and a mag of subsonic for suppressed use. Mine is the old Maritime semigloss finish, which I think looks the best. I do not use a thread protector on mine, so I can quickly screw the can on. That's the same reason the Navy didn't issue a thread protector for them. The threads start aft of the muzzle for protection already. If I didn't own a can I'd use one. NAVSEA had the SEAL teams turn theirs in several years ago. I heard the SDV teams held onto them the longest (and begged to keep them) because of their saltwater resistance and over-the-beach reliability. Idk if they got to keep any. Just some scuttlebut I heard. Awesome pistol though! Only downside is the size (not the weight), but at 6'2" with gorilla hands it doesn't bother me. The slide being long and square makes it easy to point at CQB distances. Starline still sells the (thicker case web) .45 Super brass if you want to hand load. No manufacturer loads the hot stuff anymore, only 45+P. The Super wears out even the strongest 1911 springs in short order. |
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Lust is good. Do it. You know you want to. Mark23 with HK German suppressor height night sights, Doc Rak +4 mag extensions and CCFA (B&T) carbon fiber can http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b243/conndcj/Mobile%20Uploads/20150323_114348_zpslm2jzsfo.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I have always lusted after the Mark 23. It's been one of the few guns I have obsessed over - especially after shooting one - but had always been more than I was willing to spend on a handgun. I noticed prices have dropped almost $1k from when I last looked, and I would be selling a USP 45 to help fund it. Yes, I know they are large. But it would be a dedicated suppressor host (TiRant 45M on the way) and would never leave the house except to go to the range. I have a dedicated carry weapon. My mind is pretty much made up, but I was hoping someone could pitch in some advice. Thanks. Lust is good. Do it. You know you want to. Mark23 with HK German suppressor height night sights, Doc Rak +4 mag extensions and CCFA (B&T) carbon fiber can http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b243/conndcj/Mobile%20Uploads/20150323_114348_zpslm2jzsfo.jpg Where did you gets the night sights? Close up of those would be great. Also, I ordered a Mark 23 from budsgunshop.com. Should be here Saturday. I'm part of the club |
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where do you guys even find them? I live in Phoenix which is not gun shy and I go to quite a few shops and shows. I think the only time I have seen one is when H&K comes out to the game and fish outdoor festival.
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where do you guys even find them? I live in Phoenix which is not gun shy and I go to quite a few shops and shows. I think the only time I have seen one is when H&K comes out to the game and fish outdoor festival. View Quote Or you could just go to a trusted LGS and ask them to order you one. |
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Where did you gets the night sights? Close up of those would be great. Also, I ordered a Mark 23 from budsgunshop.com. Should be here Saturday. I'm part of the club View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I have always lusted after the Mark 23. It's been one of the few guns I have obsessed over - especially after shooting one - but had always been more than I was willing to spend on a handgun. I noticed prices have dropped almost $1k from when I last looked, and I would be selling a USP 45 to help fund it. Yes, I know they are large. But it would be a dedicated suppressor host (TiRant 45M on the way) and would never leave the house except to go to the range. I have a dedicated carry weapon. My mind is pretty much made up, but I was hoping someone could pitch in some advice. Thanks. Lust is good. Do it. You know you want to. Mark23 with HK German suppressor height night sights, Doc Rak +4 mag extensions and CCFA (B&T) carbon fiber can http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b243/conndcj/Mobile%20Uploads/20150323_114348_zpslm2jzsfo.jpg Where did you gets the night sights? Close up of those would be great. Also, I ordered a Mark 23 from budsgunshop.com. Should be here Saturday. I'm part of the club Sights were from Larry at CCFA years ago. I am amazed they still glow. I probably don't want to know the amount of tritium in them. . I'll take a pic. |
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Tooltech Gunsight will install tritium sights in a MK23. They replace the white plastic inserts with vials. HK designed it this way (to a standard vial diameter).
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[#23]
Mark 23 makes an awesome target pistol, very fun to shoot. Unless you have midget hand.
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[#24]
HK Mark 23 w/ AAC Ti-Rant 45 is the hot shit. Haters will hate. And thats fine too. Get one, and thank us later.
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[#25]
I'm very happy with mine, glad I got it.
Would not want it as my ONLY handgun, but it is a very accurate, super reliable, easy shooting gun. Great fun with a suppressor (I also have a Ti-Rant). If you can't find one, have one ordered or get online (I ordered mine through Bud's Gun Shop a few years ago, they appear to have them in stock. |
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For an offensive handgun, a Glock 40 in 10mm would be better, but this is a better host
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There is nothing a Mk 23 can do that a USP 45 Tactical can't.
Weight is an issue. Ounces = pounds. |
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There is nothing a Mk 23 can do that a USP 45 Tactical can't. Weight is an issue. Ounces = pounds. View Quote Actually the mk23 offers a sig decoder which some people prefer. Also the mk23 has more potential rail space which can be needed when using different light and laser devises. Also the the safety is metal and can not be applied with the hammer down a nice feature. Also the longer sight radius is nice. Also the barrel is chrome lined. Also the sights have a reduced snag design Also the trigger is metal and wider Also the trigger guard allows for huge gloves |
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It's an awesome range gun and if I had to "go to war" with only a pistol, it's my choice. I've owned one for years and it's one of if not the most accurate 45 I own. Awesome with an Osprey. It's probably my most requested suppressed weapon to shoot. Everybody that tries it loves it. http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr193/compuvette/73851d37aab90ab5ff3f1b2b7fde3f9c_zpsho2qrpqa.jpg View Quote |
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Quoted: It's an awesome range gun and if I had to "go to war" with only a pistol, it's my choice. I've owned one for years and it's one of if not the most accurate 45 I own. Awesome with an Osprey. It's probably my most requested suppressed weapon to shoot. Everybody that tries it loves it. http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr193/compuvette/73851d37aab90ab5ff3f1b2b7fde3f9c_zpsho2qrpqa.jpg View Quote |
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First time I have seen a rail adapter like that. Details? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's an awesome range gun and if I had to "go to war" with only a pistol, it's my choice. I've owned one for years and it's one of if not the most accurate 45 I own. Awesome with an Osprey. It's probably my most requested suppressed weapon to shoot. Everybody that tries it loves it. http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr193/compuvette/73851d37aab90ab5ff3f1b2b7fde3f9c_zpsho2qrpqa.jpg It's a GG&G. I've had it for years. I used to have an LAM but someone offered me stupid money for it. Now I'm probably going to get a Steiner DBAL-PL for it. |
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