Posted: 2/20/2016 1:06:02 AM EDT
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This is why I didn't post my findings and report on here. The sheer hate for HK (mostly on GD) is mind boggling.
I experienced some of the same problems as MAC when I dropped it in my bucket of mud (almost same consistency, if not worse, than the creek MAC put it in). Mine, however, would release the striker, but the mud in the firing pin channel slowed the pin that it left a small dimple on the primer, but no bang. If MAC would have rinsed the pistol in the creek without dropping it into the mud, he might have got it to fire (I did).
As for the dead trigger, I suspect it was the pistol not being in battery. The main spring on the VP series is weak and needs a few more coils. I placed my VP40 spring in my VP9 and it worked (not so much with the mud, but it was a little better).
I'm still keeping my VPs as I do shoot very well with them, and new shooters love it. A few modifactions and upgrades are needed from HK (strong firing pin and recoil springs), and it should be good to go.
I ran a retest with my M&P9. The M&P9 did fire after being dropped in the silty mud, but as it progressed, it got worse. Action slowed down, and the trigger went from 5 pounds to what felt like 30. Even after cleaning it, sonic, gun scrubber and air hose, when shooting the M&P9, the trigger still gets heavier over use. My VPs never lost their trigger pull weight!
Still, when SHTF, or just my ever day carrier gun right now, it is still my USP9. These test make me more of a firm believer of hammer fired guns. After the cleaning of all my pistols, the VPs still have a little grit, the M&P pull weight gets worse, but my USP is grit free and still runs like a sewing machine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quote History Quoted:
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That video is a complete joke. Doesn't match any sort of realistic scenario in normal settings or combat.
Anybody taking that test seriously as a knock on HKs is not thinking.
and yet other pistols have passed the same tests. I can easily find five tests of arf's precious failing on google, but haters gonna hate, right?
This site is a joke when it comes to being fair and balanced with the information uptake. If the information is harmful, it gets conveniently ignored. If the information happens for one time to the competition while there are bunches of videos showing glocks failing, we show teeth and try and hit for the jugular.
Fucking pathetic.
This is why I didn't post my findings and report on here. The sheer hate for HK (mostly on GD) is mind boggling.
I experienced some of the same problems as MAC when I dropped it in my bucket of mud (almost same consistency, if not worse, than the creek MAC put it in). Mine, however, would release the striker, but the mud in the firing pin channel slowed the pin that it left a small dimple on the primer, but no bang. If MAC would have rinsed the pistol in the creek without dropping it into the mud, he might have got it to fire (I did).
As for the dead trigger, I suspect it was the pistol not being in battery. The main spring on the VP series is weak and needs a few more coils. I placed my VP40 spring in my VP9 and it worked (not so much with the mud, but it was a little better).
I'm still keeping my VPs as I do shoot very well with them, and new shooters love it. A few modifactions and upgrades are needed from HK (strong firing pin and recoil springs), and it should be good to go.
I ran a retest with my M&P9. The M&P9 did fire after being dropped in the silty mud, but as it progressed, it got worse. Action slowed down, and the trigger went from 5 pounds to what felt like 30. Even after cleaning it, sonic, gun scrubber and air hose, when shooting the M&P9, the trigger still gets heavier over use. My VPs never lost their trigger pull weight!
Still, when SHTF, or just my ever day carrier gun right now, it is still my USP9. These test make me more of a firm believer of hammer fired guns. After the cleaning of all my pistols, the VPs still have a little grit, the M&P pull weight gets worse, but my USP is grit free and still runs like a sewing machine. In red, my own VP9 is not going into full battery anymore after chamber checks and needs to be tapped back into battery. I called up HK and apparently they like me and I do not suck because I got another one free of charge and sent overnight at no dime to me. I'm going to keep the old one for courses and use the new for daily carry. This VP9 has seen over 10,000 rounds while my BU one has maybe at least 500.
My USP45 has had 60,000 rounds through it and still goes back into battery during chamber checks, but it was never taken to courses.
I think you're right about the VP9 needing a few more coils. I also think it needs the striker channel closed off completely. And I am obviously like you not afraid to admit or will ignore faults, something that our operators refuse to do...and I find that lack of integrity as something abysmally flawed.
I have a G20, it is flawed but I will not die carrying it. I also have a VP9 which is flawed, but not flawed enough to be of over analytically paranoid concerned because there is not any chance of me going swimming in mud puddles or going waist deep into streams, and the chances of me dying with it are the same for carrying glocks, FACT.
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