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Posted: 5/14/2015 12:17:56 PM EDT
[#1]
Intacto?
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Posted: 5/14/2015 12:23:01 PM EDT
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PASS !!!!!!
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Posted: 5/14/2015 12:45:54 PM EDT
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LOL yeah that stupid thread keeps rolling through my head because it's something like that, and I can't pin it down. Pretty sure it wasn't that.
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Posted: 5/16/2015 12:37:50 AM EDT
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Probably $45 for a box of 20
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Posted: 5/16/2015 11:24:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryGayer than two boys fucking and one filming |
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Posted: 5/17/2015 8:20:41 AM EDT
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Interesting idea. Would certainly need to see some gel testing.
I'm always in favor of innovation. Things can always be improved on. I don't think you can assume that hollow point is the ONLY thing that can be effective. I also see it as a good (if it performs, of course) option for people stuck in states like New Jersey where hollow points are banned..... It may also feed better than a standard hollow point if you have a finicky gun (my solution is get a reliable gun, but a box of ammo would be a cheaper alternative...) |
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Posted: 5/17/2015 10:57:01 AM EDT
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It may also feed much worse than HP ammo. Goofy-ass thing like that, who can say.
114gr .45 bullet, so it's probably another of the real light, real fast, shit-for-penetration gimmick rounds. |
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Posted: 5/17/2015 11:07:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/17/2015 11:07:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
<a href="http://s1072.photobucket.com/user/terrydsmart/media/Mobile%20Uploads/PolyCase_Inceptor_F_ARX_45.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w361/terrydsmart/Mobile%20Uploads/PolyCase_Inceptor_F_ARX_45.jpg</a> ? WTF? 
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Posted: 5/17/2015 3:08:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Interesting idea. Would certainly need to see some gel testing. I'm always in favor of innovation. Things can always be improved on. I don't think you can assume that hollow point is the ONLY thing that can be effective. I also see it as a good (if it performs, of course) option for people stuck in states like New Jersey where hollow points are banned..... It may also feed better than a standard hollow point if you have a finicky gun (my solution is get a reliable gun, but a box of ammo would be a cheaper alternative...) Agree on being a fan of innovation. Afaik, the JHP handgun bullet came along in my lifetime; or certainly not before my dad's. First I recall is the Super Vel of 1963, and that was in my time, so the JHP is a relative newcomer itself and so isn't above being eclipsed one of these days by something better. I'm sure that there were a lot of nay-sayers about JHPs came around, and there were certainly hiccups involved when first using them in guns whose designs pre-dated that bullet style and weren't intended to feed & fire them. Is this a good load? Dunno. Is it something I'm going to jump on? No. Is it a further step in design evolution/progress? Dunno, but possibly. Fwiw, gel test in .380 and 9mm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7_C6kNfjiA |
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Posted: 5/17/2015 4:37:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryGood penetration at least. No expansion or fragmentation, though. |
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Posted: 5/18/2015 8:30:20 AM EDT
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Good penetration at least. No expansion or fragmentation, though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Good penetration at least. No expansion or fragmentation, though. Agree. I'm underwhelmed. Oh well. |
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Posted: 5/19/2015 4:13:25 PM EDT
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<a href="http://s1072.photobucket.com/user/terrydsmart/media/Mobile%20Uploads/PolyCase_Inceptor_F_ARX_45.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w361/terrydsmart/Mobile%20Uploads/PolyCase_Inceptor_F_ARX_45.jpg</a> ? I think I could put some Tootsie Rolls in the sun and get something that looks similar and probably performs just as well. |
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Posted: 5/19/2015 9:09:49 PM EDT
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Looks like a drill bit.
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Posted: 5/19/2015 10:17:06 PM EDT
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To be clear, I'm not at all endorsing this round or this type of round; I'm just open to new approaches, much as the JHP was a new approach itself surprisingly recently.
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Good penetration at least. No expansion or fragmentation, though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Good penetration at least. No expansion or fragmentation, though. Not to be argumentative, because I do see your point - but if expansion and/or fragmentation were the only things that had a bearing on effectiveness, a RNL bullet would be as effective on flesh as a SWC or Keith-style bullet; and that's obviously not the case. |
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Posted: 5/19/2015 11:11:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
To be clear, I'm not at all endorsing this round or this type of round; I'm just open to new approaches, much as the JHP was a new approach itself surprisingly recently. Not to be argumentative, because I do see your point - but if expansion and/or fragmentation were the only things that had a bearing on effectiveness, a RNL bullet would be as effective on flesh as a SWC or Keith-style bullet; and that's obviously not the case. Quote HistoryQuoted:
To be clear, I'm not at all endorsing this round or this type of round; I'm just open to new approaches, much as the JHP was a new approach itself surprisingly recently. Quoted:
Good penetration at least. No expansion or fragmentation, though. Not to be argumentative, because I do see your point - but if expansion and/or fragmentation were the only things that had a bearing on effectiveness, a RNL bullet would be as effective on flesh as a SWC or Keith-style bullet; and that's obviously not the case. Never said that. However, given that there are bullets that will both expand and give adequate penetration, one that simply penetrates is clearly not the best option. Penetration, though, trumps expansion if you can only have one or the other. |
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