My M&P Shield pics, internals, APEX sear, Safety removal, comparison pics to Kahr CM9, M&P9c, video

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - My M&P Shield pics, internals, APEX sear, Safety removal, comparison pics to Kahr CM9, M&P9c, video

Posted: 4/13/2012 10:05:45 AM EDT

my dealer got 3. all already sold. just picked her up. feels great. I paid $430. higher than i wanted but i figured they will sell out quick and not have more for weeks

Pics to compare to my current pocket gun, Kahr CM9

holding CM9 with pierce mag baseplates

M&PS with flush mag. My pinky barely stays on. i need another .25"

Ext mag

The safety is a joke. its tiny. its hard to turn off. barely sticks out away from the frame of the gun. the slide stop/release sticks out farther. im sure S&W just put in on there to appease the lawyers.

Sear looks like a standard M&P9. i will confirm tonight when i get to my micrometer

Mags are 1.5 stack

Posted: 4/13/2012 10:13:00 AM EDT

[#1]

Nice! How is the trigger?

You have a M&P Compact to compare it with?

Posted: 4/13/2012 10:14:54 AM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:
Nice! How is the trigger?

You have a M&P Compact to compare it with?

trigger feels awesome. great reset. best stock trigger ive felt from an M&P. i will try to put a Apex sear in tonight to see how it makes it feel

yes i do have a M&Pc. pics when i get home.

Posted: 4/13/2012 10:20:05 AM EDT

[#3]

Thanks for the pics.

Posted: 4/13/2012 10:28:48 AM EDT

[#4]

pocket carry:

I wear Khakis to work everyday. im 6'0" 250 lbs.

CM9 in pocket holster

M&Ps in same holster. doesnt fit in all the way

pics may not be much of a difference. the both feel fine riding in your pocket, but the extra height of the M&Ps makes it tough to pocket draw. im sure it will be fine in a large cargo pocket but i wont pocket carry it in khakis.

Posted: 4/13/2012 10:29:49 AM EDT

[#5]

+1 for the pen holders on your desk.

Posted: 4/13/2012 10:37:53 AM EDT

[#6]

FML, I just ordered one.

Posted: 4/13/2012 10:47:32 AM EDT

[#7]

Maybe I missed it, but are you carrying with the safety off?

Posted: 4/13/2012 11:02:54 AM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
Maybe I missed it, but are you carrying with the safety off?

well i havent carried it yet since its brand new but when i do carry it i will not use the safety. none of my M&Ps have safeties and i carry them all OWB in a good leather holster.

Posted: 4/13/2012 11:37:24 AM EDT

[#9]

Thanks, those were the exact pics I wanted to see.

Do you notice the weight difference all that much?

My local place has 3 coming in Monday or Tuesday. Need to snag one.

Posted: 4/13/2012 1:04:18 PM EDT

[#10]

Damn it, this might have to replace my CM9. I will wait until they drop down in price a bit (I hope they don't continue to sell out).

Posted: 4/13/2012 1:38:13 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
Damn it, this might have to replace my CM9. I will wait until they drop down in price a bit (I hope they don't continue to sell out).

Yeah, the MSRP is pretty high, but through gun genie, I was able to find it at $383.35. It will just take a few days to get here.

Posted: 4/13/2012 2:12:02 PM EDT

[#12]

The mag release doesn't reverse does it?

Thanks

Posted: 4/13/2012 2:21:16 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
The mag release doesn't reverse does it?

Thanks

I think it does. Look just like a fs inside

Posted: 4/13/2012 3:10:45 PM EDT

[#14]

How does the width of the slide rails compare to the standard M&P? I'd assume its slimmer but if there is ANY chance my sight pusher will work I'd be awfully happy....

Posted: 4/13/2012 3:48:42 PM EDT

[#15]

Awesome

Its unfortunate that the safety is even there at all

Posted: 4/13/2012 5:41:15 PM EDT

[#16]

Update! Apex 9mm fs sear drops right in. Trigger breaks around 4.5 lbs now i recon. Bad news is that the safety bar looks impossible to remove without bending it. Check out the pics

Posted: 4/13/2012 5:46:36 PM EDT

[#17]

Can you rehost these pics? I'd like to see them.

Posted: 4/13/2012 5:48:43 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
Awesome

Its unfortunate that the safety is even there at all

The safety is terrible. I held one today. The safety is essentially flush to the frame. It's retarded. The only way I could engage it was my switching my grip and moving it with the tip of my thumb. Couldn't move it with the side of my thumb like how you normally would. Thankfully it is really hard to move (or at least the one I held) so it shouldn't move on you. However, I will be waiting for the no safety model, assuming it comes available

Posted: 4/13/2012 5:59:29 PM EDT

[#19]

quick video of the reset (this is with the apex sear in but its the same with the factor sear)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7tgDHJ-SC4

Posted: 4/13/2012 6:10:01 PM EDT

[#20]

do you feel that first click on the reset?

Posted: 4/13/2012 6:23:25 PM EDT

[#21]

OP great job with the comparison text and pics. I'll be going to check out the three my dealer got in tomorrow!

Posted: 4/13/2012 7:03:04 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
do you feel that first click on the reset?

No. I think the first click is the safety in the trigger. The second louder click is the actual reset and its very easy to feel

Posted: 4/13/2012 7:03:54 PM EDT

[#23]

so can you tell what any difference that would make the reset better compared to the older ones?

Posted: 4/13/2012 7:07:07 PM EDT

[#24]

I just walked around all afternoon with the shield in my pocket, no holsters with safety on. I really like it.

Posted: 4/13/2012 7:17:44 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
so can you tell what any difference that would make the reset better compared to the older ones?

I dont know what they did internally but he reset is much better than the other mnpa

Posted: 4/13/2012 7:33:52 PM EDT

[#26]

can I put an FSS in it?

Posted: 4/13/2012 7:38:03 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
can I put an FSS in it?

Dont know. Never installed one. Only use upgraded sears in my m&ps

Posted: 4/13/2012 8:00:21 PM EDT

[#28]

How does the Shield compare to your CM9? I own a PM9 and love the way it feels in my hand and shoots great too. I like the way it naturally points as well. BTW your CM9 is awesome!

Posted: 4/13/2012 8:30:46 PM EDT

[#29]

Looks like I will be ordering 2 Apex sears this weekend for my FS 9mm and my Shield.

Posted: 4/13/2012 8:32:47 PM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:
can I put an FSS in it?

No. The trigger bar is bent differently between the shield and the standard 9mm.

Posted: 4/13/2012 9:42:48 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The mag release doesn't reverse does it?

Thanks

I think it does. Look just like a fs inside

Negative it is not reversible.

Posted: 4/14/2012 3:22:10 AM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The mag release doesn't reverse does it?

Thanks

I think it does. Look just like a fs inside

Negative it is not reversible.

You sure? The mags are notched for it.

Posted: 4/14/2012 3:47:04 AM EDT

[#33]

I'm pretty sure. After Evnash posted his well done pictures, I looked at it very carefully. All of the prior M&P's have a slight extension on the magazine release button on both sides. The shield only has it on the left side, so where we're able to reverse the others, on the shield it physically won't work.

For the life of me I can't figure why they would remove that option, the width would remain the same. The only thing I can figure was cost cutting to keep it as inexpensive as possible.

....

Posted: 4/14/2012 4:12:50 AM EDT

[#34]

And why notch the mags for it then? Maybe a lefty catch down the road?

Posted: 4/14/2012 4:26:57 AM EDT

[#35]

Optimus, that's a good question. I sure hope you're correct. I'm a right hander who prefers the release on the right side.

Posted: 4/14/2012 4:31:30 AM EDT

[#36]

Thanks for going through all that trouble to post this.

Posted: 4/14/2012 4:32:16 AM EDT

[#37]

Does the shield have the interchangeable grip pieces like the full size mp and mpc?

Posted: 4/14/2012 4:33:54 AM EDT

[#38]

Seems like if they made the mag release reversible, people would ask why not the safety and slide stop. Sounds like a management decision to just make the gun for right handers

Posted: 4/14/2012 4:36:25 AM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:
Looks like I will be ordering 2 Apex sears this weekend for my FS 9mm and my Shield.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/stmcelroy/Kydex%20Holsters/575043_413789978632383_100000041537720_26026233_1350490637_n.jpg

Now ill tell ya the sear is harder to put in than in other models. That stupid safety bar holds the sear pin in and since you cant remove it, you have to find just the right angle to position it so the pin will clear and come out. If you have trouble, IM me when u are installing

Posted: 4/14/2012 5:15:38 AM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:

Does the shield have the interchangeable grip pieces like the full size mp and mpc?

No, it's a static piece. In one video they said M&P did make them changeable in order to maintain the thickness. Bummer, but it's not bad how it is really. I'm sure they'll be a slip on grip you can add to give you some more real estate to grab onto.

Posted: 4/14/2012 6:00:23 AM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:
Seems like if they made the mag release reversible, people would ask why not the safety and slide stop. Sounds like a management decision to just make the gun for right handers

That's probably the best explanation I've read.

Posted: 4/14/2012 9:18:36 AM EDT

[#42]

Bud's added them to the website this morning. After looking through all the pictures here, I went ahead and ordered one, albeit for more money than you guys seem to be paying for them.

Oh well... I have to have an M&P9 in each size! Right?!

Posted: 4/14/2012 9:28:56 AM EDT

[#43]

Wow the shield is a sweet shooting gun. I ran 100 rounds of mixed ammo thru it today. Will run a couple more 100 over the next two days (i have a range at my house). No problems with reloads, steel cases, or defensive ammo. Points naturally just like other m&ps.

These are with cheap ammo. Standing, slow steady aimed fire. Other bullet holes were flyers cause by me or my dad. Target are 8" at the 7 ring

3 yards

7 yards

15 yards

25 yards

Posted: 4/14/2012 9:35:57 AM EDT

[#44]

3rd 3 yard groups?

Posted: 4/14/2012 10:40:43 AM EDT

[#45]

Quoted:
3rd 3 yard groups?

For the first target yeah

Posted: 4/18/2012 6:16:14 PM EDT

[#46]

Noticed a lot of questions on the reversible mag release. I just tried and it indeed is NOT reversible. Could've easily been designed to be IMO and I'm still looking at it a bit to see if there's a way to finagle a way to reverse it via some trimming etc. I'm content for now as I've been practicing manipulating it with my left hand and it doesn't seem too bad. Just will take a bit of practice!

Still, it'd be nice to see a solution b/c it looks doable but I'm hesitant to chew on a one day old gun, for now.

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - My M&P Shield pics, internals, APEX sear, Safety removal, comparison pics to Kahr CM9, M&P9c, video

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