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Posted: 7/14/2016 3:20:16 PM EDT
Does anyone have any experience with one of these, trigger, feel, accuracy etc.
I'm looking to use one as a suppressor host. |
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IIRC the "Jaguar"
Had a 22 for a while, it was very reliable for such a small gun. Trigger was good IMO. OEM mags were very scarce when I had mine and I only ever had one mag, although that might've changed recently...worth looking into. Overall quality was very good, would recommend if you can get good mags. |
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Mine is a "mossad" import I got via Buds and mine was 100% on the finish and appeared unfired. I've run all kinds of cheap and expensive .22 ammo through it to the tune of about 2.5k rounds, including plenty of Eli subsonics, and it runs like a Swiss watch. Threads were great after I removed the faux supressor, which is easy to do with a file and the proper size Allen key.
0 malfunctions (did have a few bad rounds that just wouldnt fire in anything, not the guns fault) and I clean it every 200 rounds or so if I'm shooting supressed. You will need a thread adapter (got mine from silencer shop) to fit a 1/2 x 28 supressor. Mags are a royal pain to fund and are crazy expensive, but I got two aftermarket mags from Tripple K and they work as well as the factory mags but feel to be of a slightly cheaper manufacture. My favorite rimfire pistol, can be dropped in a coat pocket if need be, but still very shootable. The quality and fit and finish of the pistol are superb. I'm considering picking up a second. Honestly, I think they're a screaming deal for what you get. My advice is get one (or two!). ETA: Mine has an excellent trigger and is very easy to shoot accurately despite the tiny sights. I have been surprised by it accuracy time and again with good quality ammo. Very natural pointing and good ergonomics despite being fairly small. |
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Mags are easier than everyone thinks. I have three Triple K mags for mine that have been as reliable as the factory mags.
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My grandpa has one. It is the nicest Beretta I've ever shot, very nice in the hand, incredibly accurate, and very reliable. The trigger is good.
If you get one be sure to swap out the recoil spring since it's probably worn out. If you get a weird issue of it locking the slid back randomly, replace the spring for the slide stop lever. Also be careful if you remove the grips. They are a PITA and you should try to avoid doing it more than you have to. |
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I believe the Mossad used the model 70, not the 71. But AFIK the model 70 was never imported into the US in .22lr. Regardless of 70 or 71, they are absolutely magnificent little pistols and everyone ought to have one. What I'd give to have Beretta put these back into production.
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Quoted: The Israeli surplus pistols coming in right now are Beretta 71s, and most of the pistols I've seen have some storage wear but appear to be unfired or close to it. http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/E02CAAAD-2890-487B-B0A1-B7F6EC868443_zpsv03mgk7b.jpg They are similar in overall dimensions to the Walther PP in .22 LR, but the Beretta is a bit lighter due to it's aluminum frame. Still it has a good feel to it. (Below is my Model 71 and my British L66A1 version of the PP ,22LR. http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/A2065998-5279-4BB6-9025-23791DDA842C_zpslgfq3fax.jpg http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/19691401-2EF0-4F93-8C4E-D182602C483F_zpsmhsjkf7s.jpg http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/7918153F-E541-4A66-B83B-3583E4C3A7A2_zpsai6pgboq.jpg They are sidestepping the import restrictions by attaching a faux suppressor blind pinned to the muzzle, but some dealers are removing the pin prior to selling them. You'll still need to add a 1/2-28 thread protector, but that's a $7-$8 item. Wood grips are available and they look good on the pistol. http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/5F8FE467-9742-4DBD-A907-F062C81D926C_zps7ow3wcuh.jpghttp://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/2C46E73F-9461-4A1C-9327-73F5EB556F6C_zpsv1g6ucfo.jpg The magazine will hold nine rounds but it is an 8 round magazine and it's only reliable with 8. The Walther PP in .22 LR has a 10 round magazine, but like the Beretta it has to be limited to 8 rounds for reliable function. The good news is that loaded with 8 rounds it is extremely reliable, and it's also accurate for a pocket sized .22 LR. All in all it shoots as well as my PP, but costs half as much as a L66A1 and only about 1/3rd the cost of a civilian PP in .22LR. Like the PP, original magazines are expensive - about $85 for the Beretta compared to about $115-$125 for the PP, but the triple K magazines are in the $30-$35 range and work fine in the pistol. View Quote Yours is threaded 1/2x28?? |
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I just bought 2 of them my beretta collection is getting larger.
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Quoted:
The Israeli surplus pistols coming in right now are Beretta 71s, and most of the pistols I've seen have some storage wear but appear to be unfired or close to it. http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/E02CAAAD-2890-487B-B0A1-B7F6EC868443_zpsv03mgk7b.jpg They are similar in overall dimensions to the Walther PP in .22 LR, but the Beretta is a bit lighter due to it's aluminum frame. Still it has a good feel to it. (Below is my Model 71 and my British L66A1 version of the PP ,22LR. http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/A2065998-5279-4BB6-9025-23791DDA842C_zpslgfq3fax.jpg http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/19691401-2EF0-4F93-8C4E-D182602C483F_zpsmhsjkf7s.jpg http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/7918153F-E541-4A66-B83B-3583E4C3A7A2_zpsai6pgboq.jpg They are sidestepping the import restrictions by attaching a faux suppressor blind pinned to the muzzle, but some dealers are removing the pin prior to selling them. You'll still need to add a 1/2-28 thread protector, but that's a $7-$8 item. Wood grips are available and they look good on the pistol. http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/5F8FE467-9742-4DBD-A907-F062C81D926C_zps7ow3wcuh.jpghttp://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h470/SDBB57/2C46E73F-9461-4A1C-9327-73F5EB556F6C_zpsv1g6ucfo.jpg The magazine will hold nine rounds but it is an 8 round magazine and it's only reliable with 8. The Walther PP in .22 LR has a 10 round magazine, but like the Beretta it has to be limited to 8 rounds for reliable function. The good news is that loaded with 8 rounds it is extremely reliable, and it's also accurate for a pocket sized .22 LR. All in all it shoots as well as my PP, but costs half as much as a L66A1 and only about 1/3rd the cost of a civilian PP in .22LR. Like the PP, original magazines are expensive - about $85 for the Beretta compared to about $115-$125 for the PP, but the triple K magazines are in the $30-$35 range and work fine in the pistol. View Quote Where can I buy one of these? NVM found at J&G sales for $250! Well go great will my Israeli UZI. |
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The barrel is threaded 1/2x20. I got an 1/2x20 to 1/2x28 Adapter from silencer shop for $35.00. Wish I knew where the cheaper adapter was at the time or even now... But its money well spent, I've really enjoyed this pistol, great trigger, have to sight thru the can but its lots of fun and quite accurate also.
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I ordered one of these today after reading this discussion. Thanks!
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I am trying to find an 1/2x28 adapter that doesn't stick out so far from the barrel. The one from silencerco sticks out so far and just looks goofy. I have seen some people who had one made that look much nicer. He turned down the threads to M9x .75 like the GSG 1911 and made a M9x .75 to 1/2-28 adapter.
If anybody knows where to get a shorter adapter from 1/2x20 to 1/2x28 one please let us know. |
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I just got mine today, it's pretty heavy with the fake suppressor. I can't wait to remove it. But finish on them is great, I'd say 95% on the one, 98% on the other. Trigger is pretty nice. Slide is easy to rack. Fits in my hand great.
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Since you're in AZ shall I assume you got yours from JG Sales?
Mine should be at my ffl today. I'll post pictures after I pick it up Friday or likely Saturday. |
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Anybody find that their 71 has threads other than 1\2x20? My thread protector and adapter only thread on half a turn.
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Anybody find that their 71 has threads other than 1\2x20? My thread protector and adapter only thread on half a turn. View Quote Are they in 1/2x20? If so I'd figure it is due to imperfections caused by the drilled area the pin was at. Pickup a 1/2x20 die and chase the threads carefully to catch any burrs. |
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Are they in 1/2x20? If so I'd figure it is due to imperfections caused by the drilled area the pin was at. Pickup a 1/2x20 die and chase the threads carefully to catch any burrs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Anybody find that their 71 has threads other than 1\2x20? My thread protector and adapter only thread on half a turn. Are they in 1/2x20? If so I'd figure it is due to imperfections caused by the drilled area the pin was at. Pickup a 1/2x20 die and chase the threads carefully to catch any burrs. Cleaned up the threads with a die and everything is as it should be. I noticed that the hammer wasn't cocking/staying cocked. Pulled the grips and the sear was gunked up and really slow reseting. A couple hours in the ultrasonic and she's good. |
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I have one. Great little gun! Accurate, reliable and eats any ammo - Doesn't need the high velocity stuff.
In fact, I loved the first so much I bought a second for my girlfriend. We broke up so I get to keep both! I don't recommend taking the grips off. I cracked mine doing that. Brittle plastic! |
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ADCO? I just ordered a threaded extension service from them. That is what I had in mind.
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Shot mine for the first time this weekend. Seems to be very accurate for as small as it is. Easy to shoot well with the nice single action trigger. Sights are small but very usable. Shot to POA. Ran pretty well. Had a couple rounds not chamber cause the bullet came out of the mag pointing high. Didn't check to see if this occured in the factory mag or the triple K aftermarket.
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Wow that is a nice deal. The "Operation Wrath of God" pistol. The choice of the world's elite operators, at the time. Also carried by israeli sky Marshalls, who had to engage all the time,, and was used as the primary weapon by commandos in some hostage rescues. One or two guys with the beretta 70/71 vs a larger group of PLO terrorists ended very badly for the terrorists on several occasions.
Pretty cool that they were doing all that with 22lr. |
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Hi,
I'm a new member here. Due to all the nice comments I've read about the Beretta Model 71, I bought one last Saturday and removed the fake can. I already own a Gemtec Alpine silencer. SO,-- now I need an adapter. Is Silencer company the only place offering the adapter?? They are currently out of stock. Does the adapter rest on the muzzle or is it just a case of screwing it on until it stops?? The threads on the barrel are very short and I am worried about alignment. Has anyone experienced baffle strikes?? Thanks, Jim C |
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Quoted:
Hi, I'm a new member here. Due to all the nice comments I've read about the Beretta Model 71, I bought one last Saturday and removed the fake can. I already own a Gemtec Alpine silencer. SO,-- now I need an adapter. Is Silencer company the only place offering the adapter?? They are currently out of stock. Does the adapter rest on the muzzle or is it just a case of screwing it on until it stops?? The threads on the barrel are very short and I am worried about alignment. Has anyone experienced baffle strikes?? Thanks, Jim C View Quote This is who made my adapter. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_143/1029861_Barrel_Threading_sale__50__PTR_91__Tavors__Augs__Scar__Sig_MPX__Beretta_21A_Threading__FAL__PAPM92.html You can buy an adapter, but they don't look half as nice as the ones made my him and by the one posted above at ADCO. The adapter screws all the way onto the threads. Most people rethread and then make an adapter so you can make the adapter shorter. |
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N3,
Thanks for responding. I clicked on the site you provided, but could find nothing mentioning adapters for the Beretta m71, rethreading the barrel, or prices. Jim C |
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Jimc351:
Here is where I got mine. Screw it on until it stops then shoot. Have had no problems with alignment or baffle strikes. |
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N3, Thanks for responding. I clicked on the site you provided, but could find nothing mentioning adapters for the Beretta m71, rethreading the barrel, or prices. Jim C View Quote In the first page of the thread it states instructions, or you can post in the thread as the person monitors it. It is a company in N Texas. The instructions are listed on page one. I think it was around $100 to get the barrel rethreaded and the adapter made. |
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Many thanks to all those who replied.
Because of the attractive price I will try the one made by Tactical Innovations. Thanks Precision 40 for the tip. Jim C |
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I ended up getting one thru my ffl. Whats the normal condition of these? Mine is in very good shape but theres some pitting on the barrel. Besides that and the rear sight being a little loose, it looks in very good shape. I couldn't break mine down so after 30 minutes of struggling with it and getting it loose, I hit the locking lugs with a file and lightly hit it. Just enough to be able to get it off and on. It still takes a little bit of effort but not much, just a slight pull. About the pitting on the barrel, I didn't see it cause it was dark at my ffls and its was very oily.
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My barrel fits super tight on the frame as well. I read you have to slingshot the slide over and over after turning the barrel release lever. It works and slowly pushes the barrel up and out.
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My barrel fits super tight on the frame as well. I read you have to slingshot the slide over and over after turning the barrel release lever. It works and slowly pushes the barrel up and out. View Quote It took me like 15 minutes of doing the sling shot. Afterwards I couldn't reassemble it as it was too tight. So I hit it with a file. It only took like 6 passes to get it to fit right. It was just enough to remove a little of the finish and thats it. It still fits snug but atleast It comes off and goes back together. Does yours have any pitting anywhere? |
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Picked mine up from the FFL today and got the fake can off. What did ADCO do to the barrel? Mine. View Quote I know I'm a little late. ADCO cut the existing threaded portion off and internally threaded the barrel. They made an adapter that screwed in with the appropriate 1/2X28 threads for the can. |
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I know I'm a little late. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif border=0 align=middle> ADCO cut the existing threaded portion off and internally threaded the barrel. They made an adapter that screwed in with the appropriate 1/2X28 threads for the can. View Quote Thanks. How much did they charge for that? Was the barrel threaded internally? Wouldn't that mean it can't be shot without the adapter? |
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Thinking this looks like an interesting host for my soon to be unjailed suppressor ... anyone know where to find one now? The link above is no good any more.
Thanks! |
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Anyone have a current source on these pistols? They seem to have dried up recently.
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Anyone have a current source on these pistols? They seem to have dried up recently. View Quote Buds has them. Buds |
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Great guns, very nice in the hand and very accurate. They feel like a much larger gun in the hand due to the excellent grips, and are very easy to shoot well.
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It took me like 15 minutes of doing the sling shot. Afterwards I couldn't reassemble it as it was too tight. So I hit it with a file. It only took like 6 passes to get it to fit right. It was just enough to remove a little of the finish and thats it. It still fits snug but atleast It comes off and goes back together. Does yours have any pitting anywhere? View Quote No pitting I don't believe, but almost all the bluing is worn off the slide. |
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