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Nice review...thanks! After you do some more shooting, can you post more? I wonder how it is to shoot a couple of hundred rnds or more in a session.
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Excellent and timely review, thanks. This is the answer I found as well whilst searching for a G19 sized double action. I'm considering the AGW slim single side safety, the D spring, Beretta Elite skeletonized hammer, trijicon night sights (orange front sight), and Beretta wood grips.
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Can you use the standard sized D spring or did you buy a different one?
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I've been carrying one off and on for about a year great little carry gun. I've added the wolf trigger return spring and the d spring. Reallllly cleans up the trigger pull. I did have to modify the stock trigger to fit the return spring but it was worth the effort. My next effort is hunting down one of the plastic full size guide rods and cut to length to lose some unneeded weight in the steel rod.
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Nice review...thanks! After you do some more shooting, can you post more? I wonder how it is to shoot a couple of hundred rnds or more in a session. I am leaning towards one of these. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Nice review...thanks! After you do some more shooting, can you post more? I wonder how it is to shoot a couple of hundred rnds or more in a session. I am leaning towards one of these. Thanks, I can defiantly post an update after I shoot it more. I'll shoot at the next USPSA match and get a better feel for it. Quoted:
Can you use the standard sized D spring or did you buy a different one? Thanks. Yes, I used the full sized 92D spring. It's not quite as light as using the spring in a full size 92 but it's a huge improvement over the stock hammer spring. Quoted:
I've been carrying one off and on for about a year great little carry gun. I've added the wolf trigger return spring and the d spring. Reallllly cleans up the trigger pull. I did have to modify the stock trigger to fit the return spring but it was worth the effort. My next effort is hunting down one of the plastic full size guide rods and cut to length to lose some unneeded weight in the steel rod. Ironic, I want to find a captured steel guide rod for my 92A1 to add a little more weight to the front. I don't mind the extra weight when it has a favorable effect on shooting. |
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Interesting. I have the 92FS and have been looking for a lighter EDC, this just might be it.
ETA: Do your other Beretta mage work with it? I know they're not ideal for carry, just curious. |
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I had one and liked it a lot. I bought it as a carry piece to complement my USPSA/IDPA gun (full size 92FS) and nightstand gun (M9A1). Ended up selling it because I live in a ban state and pre-ban 13 rounders were too damn hard to find. It was never reliable enough with the 10-round cripple compact mags for my liking. It was perfect with the 13 rounders though.
Also, if you didn't already know, Wilson Combat is doing Beretta 92 custom work now. Bill Wilson is a huge fan of the 92 series. I bought a couple of the short reach triggers and they work great. I'm seriously considering sending off my 92FS slide and converting it to a 92G. |
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Waste of money, in my opinion. I've had one for over twenty years and I've never had the safety switch itself on once. I really don't know why people obsess over this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm seriously considering sending off my 92FS slide and converting it to a 92G. Waste of money, in my opinion. I've had one for over twenty years and I've never had the safety switch itself on once. I really don't know why people obsess over this. It's not a non-issue. I agree its not a major issue like some people say, especially with proper technique/training, but it's not a non-issue either. Performing malfunction drills, especially under any sort of stress (be it competition, training, etc), the risk of accidently knocking the safety on is real. I shoot the 92 exclusively for IDPA/USPSA. It has happened to me before at an IDPA match when I went to clear a doublefeed. Shit happens. |
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Quoted: It's not a non-issue. I agree its not a major issue like some people say, especially with proper technique/training, but it's not a non-issue either. Performing malfunction drills, especially under any sort of stress (be it competition, training, etc), the risk of accidently knocking the safety on is real. I shoot the 92 exclusively for IDPA/USPSA. It has happened to me before at an IDPA match when I went to clear a doublefeed. Shit happens. View Quote Fair enough. I suppose it's user dependent. |
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Interesting. I have the 92FS and have been looking for a lighter EDC, this just might be it. ETA: Do your other Beretta mage work with it? I know they're not ideal for carry, just curious. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Interesting. I have the 92FS and have been looking for a lighter EDC, this just might be it. ETA: Do your other Beretta mage work with it? I know they're not ideal for carry, just curious. Yes, my 17 and 15 rd magazines fit just fine. Quoted:
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I'm seriously considering sending off my 92FS slide and converting it to a 92G. Waste of money, in my opinion. I've had one for over twenty years and I've never had the safety switch itself on once. I really don't know why people obsess over this. I agree with you, I've never inadvertently moved the safety when operating a 92. The only people I see have trouble with it are people who grip the slide overhanded, which I never understood anyway because it obstructs your view of the chamber and increases the risk of the slide biting your palm. It also puts your fingers close to the muzzle on smaller pistols. Solution, don't grip the pistol that way. |
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Thanks, I can defiantly post an update after I shoot it more. I'll shoot at the next USPSA match and get a better feel for it. Yes, I used the full sized 92D spring. It's not quite as light as using the spring in a full size 92 but it's a huge improvement over the stock hammer spring. Ironic, I want to find a captured steel guide rod for my 92A1 to add a little more weight to the front. I don't mind the extra weight when it has a favorable effect on shooting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nice review...thanks! After you do some more shooting, can you post more? I wonder how it is to shoot a couple of hundred rnds or more in a session. I am leaning towards one of these. Thanks, I can defiantly post an update after I shoot it more. I'll shoot at the next USPSA match and get a better feel for it. Quoted:
Can you use the standard sized D spring or did you buy a different one? Thanks. Yes, I used the full sized 92D spring. It's not quite as light as using the spring in a full size 92 but it's a huge improvement over the stock hammer spring. Quoted:
I've been carrying one off and on for about a year great little carry gun. I've added the wolf trigger return spring and the d spring. Reallllly cleans up the trigger pull. I did have to modify the stock trigger to fit the return spring but it was worth the effort. My next effort is hunting down one of the plastic full size guide rods and cut to length to lose some unneeded weight in the steel rod. Ironic, I want to find a captured steel guide rod for my 92A1 to add a little more weight to the front. I don't mind the extra weight when it has a favorable effect on shooting. Just personal preference in balance. I've shot it with my full length m9a1 rod in there just a scootch lighter and doesn't bother me. |
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D spring in the compact should be exactly the same (trigger pull wise) as it is in the fullsize. Everything internally is the same size... Only the lanyard loop piece is shorter on the inside of the gun.
If you are comparing it to a well used Beretta with a D spring as well, realize that the trigger will lighten up a bit more with some use. I have about 5k thru my main 92FS. But at the 3k mark, I checked it with a trigger gauge. It was about 1/2 a pound lighter in the DA pull with a D spring compared to a brand new 92 with a D spring in it. |
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D spring in the compact should be exactly the same (trigger pull wise) as it is in the fullsize. Everything internally is the same size... Only the lanyard loop piece is shorter on the inside of the gun. If you are comparing it to a well used Beretta with a D spring as well, realize that the trigger will lighten up a bit more with some use. I have about 5k thru my main 92FS. But at the 3k mark, I checked it with a trigger gauge. It was about 1/2 a pound lighter in the DA pull with a D spring compared to a brand new 92 with a D spring in it. View Quote Makes sense, I noticed after changing it that the pull was a huge improvement but still not as good as my full sized 92. Guess I need to shoot her more. |
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What holster are you using, or which holster models have you found that work? |
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M4A1Carbine, What holster are you using, or which holster models have you found that work? View Quote Mine fit in a generic 92 Vertec leather holster and my 92A1 Desantis leather holster but both will leave extra material on the end of the muzzle. Wilson combat has an OWB holster that says it will fit the railed version but it is pricy and there's no IWB option. I'd really like to find a leather IWB 92fs compact holster that will fit the railed model. |
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2 of my daughters have the compacts, they love shooting them, and are good with them, will get better in time, both useing the desantis open top 92a1 holsters, they work, if i carry one i use a desantis for the vertec.
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I have a 92A1 that I love and I've been wanting a compact INOX version for awhile but I'm holding off for one with a removable front sight because night sights would be the first modification. I love the looks of that INOX!
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Nice review...thanks! After you do some more shooting, can you post more? I wonder how it is to shoot a couple of hundred rnds or more in a session. I am leaning towards one of these. View Quote I had the opportunity to put about 140 rds through her at a USPSA match tonight. As would be expected, 100% reliability with no malfunctions and all brass thrown to the right and clear of the shooter. I used each of the 13rd compact magazines four times as well as 15 rd Beretta and Check mate mags, none of which had any issues even after being dropped in the dirt from previous stages. Since it has a M9A1 frame it has a nice bevel in the magazine well which aids in reloading. The biggest down side for me were the sights, I am not liking the red dots. They are hard to pick up, I don't remember seeing the dots at all during shooting and had some issues hitting 6" steel plates. I plan on painting the rear sights in the semi circle M9 style (which is already depressed in the sight) and painting the front sight dot white so it's easier to pick up. On the upside, the pistol shoots beautifully, feeling a lot like the full sized 92. Recoil was light and predictable, and the M9A1 checkering provides a solid grip. The trigger is smooth and breaks very clean but is still heavier than the full sized 92 with the same trigger spring. Holding them side by side, you can see the compact is about 1/2" shorter, which I believe is compressing the D spring more causing a heavier trigger pull. |
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I like them, though I marginally like my M92 Compact without the light rail a little more.
If Beretta made a Compact model with replaceable sights and in "G" configuration, decock only, they'd have a lot more happy owners. |
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you know it sucks, I still haven't shot my 92c yet. it's an Italian made one from 2011.
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I have a Inox 92fs that I got back in the late 90's.
It has seen at least 15,000 to 20,000 rounds through it since it was bought new. It was carried with the old school surefire 6volt taclight in a 6004 holster. The night sites are dead and I have yet to change out any parts but it still shoots like the day i pulled it out of the box. Funny I pulled it out this weekend and am going to be using it for my bedside, bump in the night gun. I have found used compact 92's going for $650 to $800 and they had been beat up. If I can find one in good shape I will grab it but they sell for a lot around here when you can find them |
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I have a Inox 92fs that I got back in the late 90's. It has seen at least 15,000 to 20,000 rounds through it since it was bought new. It was carried with the old school surefire 6volt taclight in a 6004 holster. The night sites are dead and I have yet to change out any parts but it still shoots like the day i pulled it out of the box. Funny I pulled it out this weekend and am going to be using it for my bedside, bump in the night gun. I have found used compact 92's going for $650 to $800 and they had been beat up. If I can find one in good shape I will grab it but they sell for a lot around here when you can find them View Quote Picture of the gun with the light? |
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I have a Inox 92fs that I got back in the late 90's. It has seen at least 15,000 to 20,000 rounds through it since it was bought new. It was carried with the old school surefire 6volt taclight in a 6004 holster. The night sites are dead and I have yet to change out any parts but it still shoots like the day i pulled it out of the box. Funny I pulled it out this weekend and am going to be using it for my bedside, bump in the night gun. I have found used compact 92's going for $650 to $800 and they had been beat up. If I can find one in good shape I will grab it but they sell for a lot around here when you can find them Picture of the gun with the light? I would have to send you a pic and have you post it. Funny i just took a pic with the phone two days ago. Its the 6volt surefire that mounts to the gun by replacing the take down lever. in the 90's the first and i think only gun that came with a rail was HK USP with the UTL light everything else u had to rock a surefire. I know they made surefire mounts for the Beretta, Sig and 1911 only. |
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Ok add this:
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=7&f=148&t=930500 to this: http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=7&f=148&t=856003 My Beretta is Inox and i bought the gun and light in 97 / 98 and used a 6004 thigh rig for duty for about 4 years. Both work great still and the light has been under water a few time while fighting bad guys. Only thing i have had to do is replace batteries. Its old tec but still works great. In fact i just pulled the holster out of the storage |
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I have a 96 Compact Inox from the early 2000's, and it's easily one of my favorite guns. Doubt I will ever part with it!
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