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Posted: 7/6/2016 12:35:33 PM EDT
[#1]
Now that i have about 400 rounds through my 19 with Overwatch Tactical trigger , i am impressed, but not blown away. I think it is very much a upgrade over stock, and will soon compare it to the Apex i just put in my 17.
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Posted: 7/7/2016 7:10:08 PM EDT
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I received the Overwatch Precision Tactical Trigger and it also functions properly in the Lone Wolf Timberwolf frame. I think I like it better than their D.A.T. v2. The notch is nice and it's more like the Agency Arms triggers that I use and love in my other Glock frames.
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Posted: 7/7/2016 11:00:42 PM EDT
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I received & installed my
Glock Kraft Tactical today. I had already installed a Ghost 3.5 edge, which I tried first with the GK. It gave me a smooth take up, with no wall, and then click. I installed the oem connector, and I now have a smooth take up, a wall & then click. I'll leave in that config until I can get some range time this weekend. I like the way it feels, so far! Later! John |
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Posted: 7/8/2016 1:23:14 PM EDT
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I spoke to Glockkraft/Overwatch today. What is holding things up is getting G43 trigger bars. They expect more from coating in the next 1-2 weeks.
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Posted: 7/24/2016 1:11:56 AM EDT
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I spoke to Glockkraft/Overwatch today. What is holding things up is getting G43 trigger bars. They expect more from coating in the next 1-2 weeks. Brownells has them for like 3 bucks more after shipping. Just ordered one. |
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Posted: 7/24/2016 12:01:44 PM EDT
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Assuming we are talking about Suarez International, Google "Gabe Suarez fraud". Aside from that, there was some tomfoolery in the initial offerings of their trigger that made it look like they were dodging, or at least not admitting, faulty product or bad design. Recent offerings have reportedly been decent, however. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Friends don't let friends buy SI stuffs. What's wrong with SI's stuffs? Assuming we are talking about Suarez International, Google "Gabe Suarez fraud". Aside from that, there was some tomfoolery in the initial offerings of their trigger that made it look like they were dodging, or at least not admitting, faulty product or bad design. Recent offerings have reportedly been decent, however. nothings wrong with them, he copies the design of others at a cheaper cost. but they are solid and reliable. though he wont admit mistakes in his first run, its always everyone elses problem |
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Posted: 7/24/2016 12:03:41 PM EDT
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nothings wrong with them, he copies the design of others at a cheaper cost. but they are solid and reliable. though he wont admit mistakes in his first run, its always everyone elses problem Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Friends don't let friends buy SI stuffs. What's wrong with SI's stuffs? Assuming we are talking about Suarez International, Google "Gabe Suarez fraud". Aside from that, there was some tomfoolery in the initial offerings of their trigger that made it look like they were dodging, or at least not admitting, faulty product or bad design. Recent offerings have reportedly been decent, however. nothings wrong with them, he copies the design of others at a cheaper cost. but they are solid and reliable. though he wont admit mistakes in his first run, its always everyone elses problem I personally don't buy from a company I can't trust. |
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Posted: 7/24/2016 1:10:54 PM EDT
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After ordering the glockkraft TAC, I'm questioning my purchase and may go with the DAT for aesthetic purposes.
What concerns me is the DAT is shorter in length and there looks to be a significant gap between the trigger and bottom of the trigger guard. Do any DAT owners have problems with a portion of their finger hanging off the bottom of the trigger? Thanks homies |
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Posted: 7/24/2016 1:24:43 PM EDT
[#9]
After ordering the glockkraft TAC, I'm questioning my purchase and may go with the DAT for aesthetic purposes.
What concerns me is the DAT is shorter in length and there looks to be a significant gap between the trigger and bottom of the trigger guard. Do any DAT owners have problems with a portion of their finger hanging off the bottom of the trigger? Thanks homies |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 1:26:22 PM EDT
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After ordering the glockkraft TAC, I'm questioning my purchase and may go with the DAT for aesthetic purposes. What concerns me is the DAT is shorter in length and there looks to be a significant gap between the trigger and bottom of the trigger guard. Do any DAT owners have problems with a portion of their finger hanging off the bottom of the trigger? Thanks homies I own two DAT V2s in my Glock 19 and this never even crossed my mind once. No problems with the finger hanging off the bottom of the trigger, that being said if this is a concern, the TAC seems to have been the right decision on your part. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:22:04 PM EDT
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Has anyone tried the innovative gunfighter solutions trigger?
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Posted: 7/26/2016 7:30:11 PM EDT
[#12]
Anybody have any input on flat triggers for the 43?
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Posted: 7/26/2016 11:51:43 PM EDT
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Anybody have any input on flat triggers for the 43? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The consensus seems to be Overwatch Precision/GlockKraft. Brownells has the 43 with trigger bar in stock for the TAC version, but the DAT version appears to be out of stock. The only difference is a little nub at the end of the trigger. |
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Posted: 7/27/2016 7:39:29 PM EDT
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I like the shape of GK/Overwatch AND Agency Arms. I've had both in many Glocks, and they're ALMOST identical in feel (the AA is a hair longer I think).
But I know people who like the all-flat face (GK and DEM) and the shape of the Apex or SSVI. All of those brands have been good to go. -- I had to try several and figure out what I liked best. But the guy I sold my Apex to loves it, whereas I much preferred the AA/GK. So part of it also might be what you get used to. |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 7:07:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has anyone tried the innovative gunfighter solutions trigger? IGFS is sending me (the OP of this thread) their trigger to try. They are sending me the "drop in" first, and they'll have a new one out in a bit (reprofiled trigger bar and firing pin safety plunger). They said they'd send the new "kit" as soon as it was ready. |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 6:37:09 PM EDT
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Which triggers reduce trigger reach? I'm looking for a collective list that is up to date. Specifically Glock 19. My girly hands would appreciate an answer to this as well |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 10:03:06 PM EDT
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Dammit. Clicked on this thread and now I'm waiting for a Overwatch/Glockkraft TAC trigger for a G19. Problem is, if I like it, I have a half dozen other Glocks with factory triggers....
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Posted: 7/30/2016 12:38:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2016 12:21:12 PM EDT
[#19]
I got a care package from IGFS today.
 They sent me one of the standard Enhanced Duty Triggers (trigger, trigger bar and connector) and one of their polished Enhanced Duty Trigger kits (trigger, polished trigger bar, polished connector and polished striker safety plunger). I'll give them a go and let you know how they compare to the other triggers I have (and have tried). |
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Posted: 8/1/2016 6:11:19 PM EDT
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I took my rmr'd 17.4 to the
range again today to get the irons & rmr dialed in with my GK Tac trigger. After I got back, I installed a 6# trigger spring & a minus connector & it seems better. I'll make another range trip to check that out. John |
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Posted: 8/2/2016 2:50:25 PM EDT
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Now that i have about 400 rounds through my 19 with Overwatch Tactical trigger , i am impressed, but not blown away. I think it is very much a upgrade over stock, and will soon compare it to the Apex i just put in my 17. Have you got to shoot with the Apex any? Got my shipping notice / tracking information from Jagerwerks on my slide today.
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Posted: 8/3/2016 7:29:47 AM EDT
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I'm this close to pulling the trigger ....
 ...on either the over watch TAC or the agency arms trigger leaning toward the over watch I'm thinking....ugh..what to do
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Posted: 8/3/2016 9:59:34 PM EDT
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I'm this close to pulling the trigger .... ...on either the over watch TAC or the agency arms trigger leaning toward the over watch I'm thinking....ugh..what to doThe TAC feels like a crappy 2 stage AR trigger which is really damn good for a Glock
No regrets. |
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Posted: 8/4/2016 10:16:13 PM EDT
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So I have a timber wolf lower on my Roland special that primary machine built up and did their trigger job to it. Great fucking trigger but added the overwatch tac to the mix and now it's even better. Breaks right at 4 lbs even, and it is with all factory components including minus connector , Oem striker and trigger springs. They did some tuning and polishing. My fav Glock trigger so far. I need to throw up some pics and video
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Posted: 8/5/2016 12:23:36 PM EDT
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I have a Ghost EVO Elite 3.5 with 6# springs. Adding a Glock Kraft DAT V2 is good to go right?
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Posted: 8/5/2016 1:13:26 PM EDT
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The shorter reach of the Overwatch [Glock Kraft] DAT V2 is the most valuable feature for me.
First I tried it with the LWD - connector on the 17.4 and it not as responsive as I'd like going past the wall until it breaks. Now it is rocking the Zev starter spring kit installed (still using the stock firing pin spring for reliability) with the race connector. Have yet to try it with this setup. The 19 has the DAT V2 and the NP3 - connector. I've tried the SI Patrol trigger with the stock connector and it was just a normal OEM setup but with the flat trigger. |
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Posted: 8/8/2016 10:15:19 AM EDT
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I had a chance to install and play with the IGFS Enhanced Duty Trigger this weekend. I concentrated on the polished kit that they sent me, but I'll add info on the "regular" EDT as I get more time in with it. The polished kit includes the trigger mounted on a polished trigger bar, a polished factory "-" connector and a polished firing pin safety plunger. In addition to the polishing, the triggerbar is slightly re-profiled (on the bird's head) as is the safety plunger.
   The pull to the wall is very short. So short that I was initially worried about the drop safety being compromised. It did pass the drop safety tests with flying colors, though. There is plenty of crucifix on the drop safety ledge to keep things from going badly should your gun ever hit the deck. The pull is also very smooth (the polishing job is mirror-like) and the break is crisp and not overly light (factory springs). The over-travel stop built in to the trigger shoe makes the total pull nice and short.   NOTE: The trigger safety does go flush to the trigger face when pulled. It's just sticking out a bit in the picture above because of how I had my finger placed for the photo. I didn't get as much live fire time as I would've liked, but so far it's a serious contender. Everyone knows I'm a big fan of the Overwatch Precision triggers, but this one is every bit as nice if not a bit better (the re-profiled bar and plunger make a slight but noticeable difference compared to the regular IGFS trigger). I'm a big fan of the hooked flat triggers (Agency and Overwatch), but it didn't take long to acclimate to the IGFS. The face is nice and wide and the vertical serrations work without really being noticeable. I have many more rounds to put down range before my final verdict, but I'm digging it so far. |
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Posted: 8/8/2016 10:45:16 AM EDT
[#29]
I've been a big fan of my IGFS trigger, I did get the non polished modle though.
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Posted: 8/8/2016 1:16:50 PM EDT
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Glockkraft won me over with the reduced trigger reach, I really do like flat trigger, but the agency was just ever so slightly too far of a trigger reach for me, the Glockkraft is an ideal size for small hands.
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Posted: 8/10/2016 12:18:04 AM EDT
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Weird. My agency and GK were identical in location as far as reach and break (gen4 19).
The agency trigger is a hair longer--I didn't notice that changing anything though. They were so close my advice to people was to just go with the cheapest. HOWEVER, the agency trigger in my G43 felt MORE like the GK in the 19 than the agency in the 19 did...not much difference, but enough to where I stuck with agency in the 43 and GK in the 19. -- QUESTION: Has anyone had issues with the GHOST EVO-ELITE 3.5 (like doubling or anything)? I prefer the PRO 3.3, but got the E-E 3.5 to try out. I like it, but I know a guy with a GK DAT v2 who had his double or triple on him--they replaced it with a PRO 3.3. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 1:50:25 PM EDT
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Agency and GK are close in terms of trigger reach yes, however on the two Agency triggers I had in the past, I had a problem with the trigger roll pins walking out. Unfortunately, that made me uneasy. A simple fix yes, but for a $100 plus trigger, that is a no for me. This was a while back though, this issue more than likely does not exist anymore considering how popular their triggers are.
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Posted: 8/10/2016 5:24:33 PM EDT
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Weird. I've had three and never saw that...only have a few thousand rounds through them. My G43 was installed BY them using my trigger-bar.
-- I don't see the OPTION for the IGFS "polished" trigger, but I'm looking for a new G42 trigger. I really don't know how I feel about having NO index at the base of the trigger, so please OP, let me know how that feels to you having shot the GK/OW triggers a lot. |
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Posted: 8/12/2016 9:41:46 AM EDT
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Weird. My agency and GK were identical in location as far as reach and break (gen4 19). The agency trigger is a hair longer--I didn't notice that changing anything though. They were so close my advice to people was to just go with the cheapest. HOWEVER, the agency trigger in my G43 felt MORE like the GK in the 19 than the agency in the 19 did...not much difference, but enough to where I stuck with agency in the 43 and GK in the 19. -- QUESTION: Has anyone had issues with the GHOST EVO-ELITE 3.5 (like doubling or anything)? I prefer the PRO 3.3, but got the E-E 3.5 to try out. I like it, but I know a guy with a GK DAT v2 who had his double or triple on him--they replaced it with a PRO 3.3. I had an edge that I got rid of because it was essentially so light that if I had any hesitation in my trigger release at all it would double fire with recoil |
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Posted: 8/12/2016 2:26:56 PM EDT
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I have two AA triggers LOVE them. The connector that came with them was perfectly polished 100%. I have a standard factory safe trigger pull and my gun rocks.
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Posted: 8/13/2016 12:52:25 PM EDT
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Ive got 2 flat faced triggers so far, on my G19-4, and my G17-3.
The G19 has the Agency Arms trigger, and the G17 has the Glockraft trigger. They both have polished trigger bar and connectors and I love them both. My question is on the GK trigger. How does the NP3 finish feel on the GK, vs a polished finish. Is it possible to sand off the NP3 finish? |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 2:19:59 PM EDT
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the NP3 coat polishes off easily with a small amount of Flitz, a rag, and elbow grease, I still polish the usual points of contact and leave the rest of the NP3 coat on where there is no polishing needed.
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Posted: 8/16/2016 7:54:44 AM EDT
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Well I did some part swapping on my steel shooting gun and took my IGFS flat trigger and put it with my zev full fulcrum kit only replacing the trigger and it really brought the best out of both sets of parts. Pull was very light and reset was quick which will keep it in that gun for steel comps and the curved zev trigger will be going on the 26L for carry.
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Posted: 8/16/2016 4:06:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/16/2016 5:10:04 PM EDT
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Anyone have a picture that could display the trigger reach comparison between the GK and IGSF?
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Posted: 8/17/2016 6:14:42 PM EDT
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To anyone with Agency Arms triggers.
I have 3 flat faced triggers, 1- AA trigger, and 2- GK triggers My first experience with the AA trigger was a good one, minimal creep, clean break and short reset. The second AA trigger had a ton of creep and very unpredictable, so I returned it and got the GK triggers. Has anyone with AA triggers had this same experience? I would like to try them again. In addition, Ive tried the second Agency with the "." connector like the first one, and the "-" connector. Same issue. |
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Posted: 8/17/2016 11:07:09 PM EDT
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<a href="http://s1204.photobucket.com/user/Shorties2001gt/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2F859091-ED54-424C-B177-740B389335D3.jpeg.html" target="_blank">http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb404/Shorties2001gt/Mobile%20Uploads/2F859091-ED54-424C-B177-740B389335D3.jpeg</a> <a href="http://s1204.photobucket.com/user/Shorties2001gt/media/Mobile%20Uploads/0E549E1B-71F3-416F-8826-BB37E720B9ED.jpeg.html" target="_blank">http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb404/Shorties2001gt/Mobile%20Uploads/0E549E1B-71F3-416F-8826-BB37E720B9ED.jpeg</a> Tell me more about the gun? Is this for USPSA? Also where/how did you get a chrome/silver shoe? |
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Posted: 8/18/2016 12:03:19 AM EDT
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Tell me more about the gun? Is this for USPSA? Also where/how did you get a chrome/silver shoe? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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<a href="http://s1204.photobucket.com/user/Shorties2001gt/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2F859091-ED54-424C-B177-740B389335D3.jpeg.html" target="_blank">http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb404/Shorties2001gt/Mobile%20Uploads/2F859091-ED54-424C-B177-740B389335D3.jpeg</a> <a href="http://s1204.photobucket.com/user/Shorties2001gt/media/Mobile%20Uploads/0E549E1B-71F3-416F-8826-BB37E720B9ED.jpeg.html" target="_blank">http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb404/Shorties2001gt/Mobile%20Uploads/0E549E1B-71F3-416F-8826-BB37E720B9ED.jpeg</a> Tell me more about the gun? Is this for USPSA? Also where/how did you get a chrome/silver shoe? Nothing chrome or silver about the gun. It's all gray or tungsten. No purpose behind the build except fuck ya. Upper : Oem Glock 19 slide milled by primary machine Lone wolf threaded barrel Lone wolf alpha comp fitted by primary machine Factory internals 15 lb recoil Tungsten cerakote Optic is eotech / insight Mrds (I like it had it for a long time) Lower Lonewolf stippled by primary machine Lone wolf Magwell tungsten cerakote Overwatch grey trigger Factory minus connector Connector, safety plunger , trigger bar , striker face all polished and tuned by primary machine to a solid 4lbs flat All internals Oem including trigger spring. |
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Posted: 8/18/2016 1:31:12 PM EDT
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To anyone with Agency Arms triggers. I have 3 flat faced triggers, 1- AA trigger, and 2- GK triggers My first experience with the AA trigger was a good one, minimal creep, clean break and short reset. The second AA trigger had a ton of creep and very unpredictable, so I returned it and got the GK triggers. Has anyone with AA triggers had this same experience? I would like to try them again. In addition, Ive tried the second Agency with the "." connector like the first one, and the "-" connector. Same issue. My AA trigger has been very consistent and reliable. I've used it with both the "." and "-" connectors as well with no issues. Little creep and good resets. |
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Posted: 8/18/2016 10:40:26 PM EDT
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I can't remember the details, but the shorter trigger spring made my AA trigger much better. The other spring (OEM) gave it a looong pull. I hated it, but for some reason I shot well with it.
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Posted: 8/19/2016 1:39:05 AM EDT
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I had a chance to install and play with the IGFS Enhanced Duty Trigger this weekend. I concentrated on the polished kit that they sent me, but I'll add info on the "regular" EDT as I get more time in with it. The polished kit includes the trigger mounted on a polished trigger bar, a polished factory "-" connector and a polished firing pin safety plunger. In addition to the polishing, the triggerbar is slightly re-profiled (on the bird's head) as is the safety plunger....... I have many more rounds to put down range before my final verdict, but I'm digging it so far. Thanks for the comparison. Also, who did the work on your frame? The grip reduction, mag release relief, and stipple is exactly what I want for other 17/34 frame. Thanks |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 7:02:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for the comparison. Also, who did the work on your frame? The grip reduction, mag release relief, and stipple is exactly what I want for other 17/34 frame. Thanks Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I had a chance to install and play with the IGFS Enhanced Duty Trigger this weekend. I concentrated on the polished kit that they sent me, but I'll add info on the "regular" EDT as I get more time in with it. The polished kit includes the trigger mounted on a polished trigger bar, a polished factory "-" connector and a polished firing pin safety plunger. In addition to the polishing, the triggerbar is slightly re-profiled (on the bird's head) as is the safety plunger....... I have many more rounds to put down range before my final verdict, but I'm digging it so far. Thanks for the comparison. Also, who did the work on your frame? The grip reduction, mag release relief, and stipple is exactly what I want for other 17/34 frame. Thanks Sweaty Muddy Bloody did the grip. Unfortunately, it was one of the last ones he did before closing up shop. |
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Posted: 9/1/2016 1:01:03 PM EDT
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Well, over the last 3 days I just read the entire 54 pages of this thread. A lot of great info from many people! Thanks for all the testing and feedback!
Now I have to just decide between the AA and the GK for my project G34 I am going to start soon. |
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Posted: 9/1/2016 1:01:28 PM EDT
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Anyone have the Apex Flat trigger? What do you think of it?
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Posted: 9/1/2016 2:46:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone have the Apex Flat trigger? What do you think of it? To address some earlier questions... - The IGFS polished kit still isn't available on the website. I was told that they would be "soon", and under $200 for the whole kit. - After putting some rounds downrange with the IGFS, not having the hook on the bottom of the trigger (I've used the Agency and Overwatch triggers a LOT) is less of an issue than I thought. I don't even really notice it anymore. |
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