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Posted: 7/20/2014 8:02:27 AM EDT

I edc a g19 and have had fantastic accuracy results and finally started taking it out to 50 yards and trying to find the sweet spot for the sights.

Is this really asking too much of an edc gun?

Thinking of dropping to the factory minus connector and trying again.

Posted: 7/20/2014 8:06:11 AM EDT

[#1]

I shoot at 50 yards sometimes.

I try to do the draw and six shots in six seconds.

Posted: 7/20/2014 8:07:01 AM EDT

[#2]

It's you, not the gun.

My factory-stock G22 always makes hits on steel silhouettes at 75 yards, IF I properly press the (standard 5.5 lb) trigger. If. When I don't, or start "gophering", or don't properly align the sights, it doesn't make the hit.

50 yards is nothing, skip the equipment modifications. Buy more ammo, and dry fire.

Posted: 7/20/2014 8:09:18 AM EDT

[#3]

While I get sub three inch accuracy out of my 19 at 25 yards it seems to really open up at fifty to around an 8 inch group - trick parts do not change the formula of proper sight alignment and trigger control. Mine is stock except sights. Even the tiniest error in sights and trigger will cause wild shots at fifty. I can easily hit steel idpa target size gongs at 100.

Posted: 7/20/2014 8:09:22 AM EDT

[#4]

I shoot my 10mms at 70yds fairly often; the G19 occasionally. The gun is definitely up to it if the shooter is.

Posted: 7/20/2014 8:09:42 AM EDT

[#5]

I'm shooting a 5 inch plate. Usual accuracy is 2/5 on target.

I want 5/5

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Posted: 7/20/2014 8:38:21 AM EDT

[#6]

Friday I shot about 30 rds out of my G21 at a 6" plate at around 50 yds. Hit probably 20-25 out of the 30, and I wasn't really concentrating because I was mostly function testing.

Posted: 7/20/2014 8:45:00 AM EDT

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I'm shooting a 5 inch plate. Usual accuracy is 2/5 on target.

I want 5/5

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I'd be surprisedif it was mechanically capable of better than 5" accuracy for five shots at that range.

Posted: 7/20/2014 8:55:34 AM EDT

[#8]

Of course it can be done. Start with a BIG piece of cardboard and have some one help you call the shots in. Once you get a feel for holding the sights high you can ding a gong pretty consistently, even with a G26

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Cheers!

-JC

Posted: 7/20/2014 8:58:37 AM EDT

[#9]

I can bang a 7.5" x 13.25" steel target pretty regularly with my G19. It's all about trigger control and grip.

Posted: 7/20/2014 9:47:18 AM EDT

[#10]

We have a 10" gong on our rifle range at 125 yards. I am able to make hits on it with all my Glocks. Theres one at 50 too I can ring shot after shot. The key is trigger control. Learn the sights and the gun 50 yards shouldn't be any problem.

Posted: 7/20/2014 10:01:03 AM EDT

[#11]

The yearly qual at my dept. used to include IIRC 3 shots from 50 yards. This was with a g17, but none the less. doable.

Posted: 7/20/2014 11:29:12 AM EDT

[#12]

Lots of people getting good hits at 100.

Posted: 7/20/2014 11:57:45 AM EDT

[#13]

A Glock 19 is easily capable of 100+ yard hits, given proper fundamental shooting technique.

Posted: 7/20/2014 11:59:31 AM EDT

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A Glock 19 is easily capable of 100+ yard hits, given proper fundamental shooting technique.

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Anything is capable of it, just depends on the size of target!

Posted: 7/20/2014 12:01:35 PM EDT

[#15]

Like others said above it's all about trigger control, maintaining your fundamentals and follow through. I put a Bar Sto barrel in my G19 and it shrunk it up a bit @ 50yds. YMMV.

Posted: 7/20/2014 2:37:07 PM EDT

[#16]

I had both my duty Glock 21 and CCW Glock 19 at the range the other day. While working on some fundamentals I was shooting a steel silhouette from the 100yd burm while standing. With my Glock 21 I got 6 hits out of 10 shots and with the Glock 19 I got 7 out of 10. Once I moved up to 50yds it was almost 100% hit, minus a flyer from my 19, but that was all me.

So to answer your question, 50yrds is not unreasonable at all as long as you do your part.

Posted: 7/20/2014 3:23:25 PM EDT

[#17]

For pistol shooting 50 yards and out, a glass of wine beforehand will help to steady your nerves.

Posted: 7/20/2014 3:46:12 PM EDT

[#18]

I have seen very impressive things done with a stock Glock. While I dislike them for other reasons, I can't fault their accuracy in any way, shape, or form.

Posted: 7/20/2014 4:40:04 PM EDT

[#19]

I'll just leave this here

Posted: 7/20/2014 4:47:36 PM EDT

[#20]

shot out to 100 yards consistently with my duty G22 w/ 8lb trigger at the FPL range.

Posted: 7/20/2014 5:25:38 PM EDT

[#21]

Shooting at 50+ yards is one thing.. shooting at that distance under stress is a different animal. I hope I would have access to my carbine when shooting over 50 with a run of the mill combat handgun!

Posted: 7/20/2014 6:36:18 PM EDT

[#22]

I was shooting a torso sized target the other day with my Glock 42 at 65 yards. No problem.

Posted: 7/20/2014 6:45:10 PM EDT

[#23]

I had an instructor that was hitting moving silhouettes at 300 meters with a stock 17. He did it more than once! That was pretty impressive!

Posted: 7/20/2014 7:11:44 PM EDT

[#24]

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I edc a g19 and have had fantastic accuracy results and finally started taking it out to 50 yards and trying to find the sweet spot for the sights.

Is this really asking too much of an edc gun?

Thinking of dropping to the factory minus connector and trying again.

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I have witnesses, 120yds water bottles with a stock 19

Posted: 7/20/2014 8:13:18 PM EDT

[#25]

Some excellent shooting here, but check out Hickok45 and his 230yd hits with a 23.

Posted: 7/20/2014 11:11:31 PM EDT

[#26]

Very doable OP. If you doubt it, just bench your pistol and see what it can do. The rest is all shooting mechanics.

Posted: 7/21/2014 2:09:30 PM EDT

[#27]

The bottom line is that the gun will keep up with whatever distance you have the control to shoot it at within the capabilities of the cartridge.

Posted: 7/21/2014 2:29:03 PM EDT

[#28]

On a good day I can do 8 for 10 on bowling pins at 100 yards with a G23 from prone.

I'm no superman but I do shoot a lot.

Posted: 7/21/2014 2:32:08 PM EDT

[#29]

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The bottom line is that the gun will keep up with whatever distance you have the control to shoot it at within the capabilities of the cartridge.

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^ What he said. At the range we always mess around shooting 100 yards with our handguns. However we do it as another form of training and treat it differently than close quarter drills. It will help you focus on trigger control and sight alignment, both will help you substantially when you move in closer.

Posted: 7/21/2014 2:33:16 PM EDT

[#30]

no. its not asking too much. I have a gen 3 G22 and was hitting clay pigeons that we set up on the 50yd berm. I was shooting from a bench and had to walk a few in, but overall it only took 2 or 3 shots to hit the pigeon.

Posted: 7/21/2014 3:26:07 PM EDT

[#31]

50-100 yards is duck soup for Glocks & Sigs.

Posted: 7/21/2014 3:53:43 PM EDT

[#32]

You can shoot long range with practice , gotta learn the holdover . as other said the basics stay the same

Posted: 7/21/2014 4:11:45 PM EDT

[#33]

I shoot mine (G17) at 100yds and am pleased if I land most of them in an IPSC torso. I wouldn't say it is easy, but it is definitely easier than you'd expect.

And after shooting with a guy on the Navy's Pistol team, I will never doubt the accuracy of stock G19s with decent factory ammo. At 25 yards he kept all rounds in one ~nickel sized hole. At 50 he opened it up to a right around 2 inches. And I'm talking 3 full mags at each. He was disappointed with his 50yd performance. Go figure.

That taught me that the pistol is more than capable, the shooter is almost always the weak link.

Posted: 7/22/2014 7:23:04 PM EDT

[#34]

I was going to knock out some practice time tomorrow or Thursday... I'll throw some groups at 50 and see what I can do on paper.

Posted: 7/22/2014 7:45:41 PM EDT

[#35]

My friends and I often play "the gong game".

It's pretty much horse starting at 30' with a full mag, the last one to run out, wins. Shoot until you hit. Once everyone hits, we back up.

It's not unusual to get back to the 100 yard line.

Posted: 7/22/2014 8:36:21 PM EDT

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this.

Posted: 7/22/2014 9:21:09 PM EDT

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I shoot mine (G17) at 100yds and am pleased if I land most of them in an IPSC torso. I wouldn't say it is easy, but it is definitely easier than you'd expect.

And after shooting with a guy on the Navy's Pistol team, I will never doubt the accuracy of stock G19s with decent factory ammo. At 25 yards he kept all rounds in one ~nickel sized hole. At 50 he opened it up to a right around 2 inches. And I'm talking 3 full mags at each. He was disappointed with his 50yd performance. Go figure.

That taught me that the pistol is more than capable, the shooter is almost always the weak link.

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His might have been a great shooter. Expect about 3" groups at 25 from a Glock.

Posted: 7/24/2014 7:34:02 AM EDT

[#38]

I shoot steel plates at 200+ yds with my custom G20L while my G21L, G22, and custom G24 are used at 100 yd steel plates. All three have iron sights, the G20/21L has a combo of melted Bo-Mar rear and FO front while the G22 and G24 have TruGlo TFOs. I like shooting long range as it helps me to practice 'aim small, miss small'.

Posted: 7/24/2014 7:51:37 AM EDT

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A Glock 19 is easily capable of 100+ yard hits, given proper fundamental shooting technique.

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Yeah, I have a full size pepper popper at 100 yards in my back yard. I enjoy shooting at and hitting it. It makes the 25 yard and in stuff seem pretty easy!

I'm a firm believer routinely shooting at targets at further distances makes you a better all around shooter.

Posted: 7/24/2014 7:56:45 AM EDT

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I shoot at 50 yards sometimes.

I try to do the draw and six shots in six seconds.
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This is about my typical group at 50 also.

Posted: 7/24/2014 12:10:18 PM EDT

[#41]

200yds is the furthest I can get regular hits on a torso target from standing. Glock 19. Last week I was getting regular hits on a 12" disk at 100yds.

Some things I learned re 100yds+:

1) stick with one round (ie Federal 147gr or whatever).
2) use good quality ammo -- ie that groups small and consistently
3) a red dot sight (RMR, etc) makes it much easier but is not required.
4) a match barrel helps but is not required
5) targets that contrast well against your sights is pretty much required -- being able to see the details of front/rear alignment matters at that range.

Posted: 7/24/2014 12:51:17 PM EDT

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Is this really asking too much of an edc gun?

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No.

The weak link in accurate shooting is almost never the mechanical accuracy component.

Posted: 7/24/2014 12:52:05 PM EDT

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I shoot at 50 yards sometimes.

I try to do the draw and six shots in six seconds.

http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p505/arfcomaje/2014-04-26143853_zpsa15b35a7.jpg

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AJE, do you have a set of plans for your target stand?

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