I know u get what you pay for but any positive reviews of vz2008 from century?  Looking for a semi reliabl range toy. Intrigued and there is a good deal on a particular site that seems suspicious. Wondering about quality in particular.

I bought one a couple of months ago, have about 400 rounds through it. So far, I've had no problems with it.

Same here ,no problems .

I got mine a few months ago and it has been perfect, besides the cheek slap. I saw them on psa for $399 and at that price I may buy another.

Get it. They're fantastic rifles at a great price. I've sent about 4000 rounds through mine without a single malfunction.

I've only had a few hundred rounds thru mine but it's one of the best deals on a rifle I've gotten in a while. Fit & finish are better than my WASR 10/63. No mechanical issues at all. Came out of the box sighted in within an inch of bullseye at 25 yards, no canted sights. Surplus mags are still cheap. Not as much aftermarket goodies but there's still some nice upgrades out there. But so far the only things I've done to mine is lube & loosen the folding stock hinge (if you decide to disassemble it, read up on the correct method or you'll ruin the retaining nut and they're hard to find), renotched the slant brake to index at 6 o'clock instead of 5 o'clock (which eliminated a lot of cheek slap) and mounted a picatinny rail and red dot on the stock upper handguard.

Mine works like a broke dick in Bangkok. But according to what I've read on the internet it must be the only one Century made that has problems. So good luck.

I just saw that. Didn't need one but for about $440 with shipping and transfer how could I say no? Guess I'll have to move some things around in the safe to make room!

I'm literally buying them as fast as I can build up funds.  I've got one, another on the way (thanks PSA) and I'm looking to buy two more by October.  Gonna do various mods to them all but they're great rifles and at these prices, they're an investment.

I got one on order. 399 w 5 mags sling and bayonet, how can you pass it up? I ordered mine before the bayonet was in the product description now it is. Hope I get one.

Overall I think it's a decent gun. But I throw them in the same group as say a Taurus, Hi Point, Kel Tec, Phoenix Arms or any other Century gun. You're more likely to run into an issue than you are with your average CZ, HK, CSA, Ruger, Colt, etc. So I'd buy one probably. But I wouldn't be all that surprised if I had an issue. Because people are having issues. For example. Despite the modified disconnector on the 2008. People are still having the infamous gremlin or gremlin like issue. This is fixed once the bolt carrier is tabbed. But Century can't legally do that from the factory. It must be done by a third party. No matter what other people might say. Someone with a 2008 may never have the gremlin issue. But it is somewhat likely to show up eventually on a 2008. Whether it's round 1, 10, 500, or 1000. No gun is infallible and no gun company is either. But thought the gun isn't actually made by Century (it's a difficult build so Century farms them out). It's still made by a number of different makers from time to time. And it's still a cheapish gun with varying degrees of build quality. Still a good gun. But I still considered it in the same group of a KelTec. Not an HK.

For what it's worth. Read some, none or all if you want:
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=60968.0
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=61378.0
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=62804.0
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=62126.0
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=62074.0
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=64092.0
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=63965.0
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=63922.0
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=63717.0
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=63483.0
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=64452.0
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=64215.0
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=63999.0

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_99/154781_Taking_a_chance_on_a_VZ_2008.html
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_99/154724_Bent__beat_gas_rod_s_.html
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_99/153895_Problem_with_VZ2008.html
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_99/153922_Feed_issue_with_Aim_surplus_VZ2008.html
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_99/154342_considering_buying_a_century_VZ2008.html
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_99/154272_Finally_shot_my_VZ_and_found_a_new_problem.html

May be a double post in there.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_99/145592_Tabbed_bolt_carriers_and_the_vz58_gremlin.html

So you don't have one then?

No I don't have one. But I can see where you're going with this. I gave MY opinion based on documented facts and problems others have had. Still decent guns for what they cost. I'd spend the $50 per rifle and have the carrier tabbed. You could discount MY opinion if you want. But if you discount the documented and various issues others have had. That would be disingenuous. Build quality seems to very. Partly because it's a cheaper rifle and that it has been built by different builders over the years. Using older surplus parts could cause some issues too I suppose. Issues sometimes show up as well because Century can't legally tabbed the carrier. Czech Small Arms/Czechponit own that patent. So Century tried to fix the issue (which comes about because of the the design of the gun without the parts from the select fire version) with the modified disconnector. Their "fix" is 100%. The tabbed carrier is 100%.

The OP was asking for information on the gun. I provided it. Simple, take it for what it is.

I have a couple CSA built guns. Never a problem with mine. I have seem a case or two of issues with a CSA gun though over the years. A lot of talk has happened the last year or so with Century 2008s. Probably because a bunch have been sold by places like AIM this last year because the prices dropped out on them again after the bubble burst after the panic on guns/ammo pretty much ended. CSA/Czechpoint sells out on their site eventually on all/most of their guns. So they too sell well. Even at a higher price.

I'm not trashing the 2008. Like I said, overall they're a good gun. But they do have their issues. And they're not all awesome like some would lead others to believe. No gun is 100%. I provided my opinion based on gathered facts. Take it under advisement. Or ignore it.

ive got a 2008 run the hell out it and sob paid more that these are sellling for     buy it shoot ....

I'm glad you came here to this forum to discuss a gun you don't own, and gathered up a bunch of links (half of which are already in this forum on the VZs) to come up with an opinion on something youve never fired.

i'm sure it helped.

I have two. One was perfect and has never hiccuped a single time. The other had an undersized operating rod and wouldn't cycle. Century sent me a new one no questions asked. The second rifle also now operates perfect. Neither of mine have canted sights either. If I had the extra cash right now, I'd buy another two or three of them.

And I'm glad you're who so invested emotionally in something. That you can't help but see that they're nothing but perfect for you. So they must be perfect for everyone else. Your blinders sure are helping. I don't have to own one to see and read FACTS. FACT is that many of these guns are fine. But there a plenty that have issues. The provided links are simply points of data from here and another forum that the OP may not see. Or may not care to look for. That's it.

I'm trying to give the OP some facts and a wide number of examples. You're wanting to make things confrontational. Thanks for helping with that. I'm guessing next you'll call me a '13er and point to how many posts you have.

If the OP ever reads this, he can decide whether my opinion is valid. And he can decide whether my links are of importance to him. You can choose to ignore it all. Congrats.

I've responded to you twice. That's it from me to you.

I was close to ordering one thru AIM Surplus but backed off after reading all the negative posts, then a local shop had one for sale at a good price and was willing to give me a great trade in on a pistol I don't shoot anymore so I took a chance. I'm glad I did, it's a great rifle out of the box and there are some great deals on the 2008s right now. If you can afford the 'read deal' CZ at twice the price I'd certainly recommend that as well, I've had several CZ pistols and they were all great (still have my CZ97B). Century seems to be doing a great job of fixing any rifles with problems and the most common 'gremlin' issue can be fixed with a $50 tabbed carrier. A few years ago Century sold their 9mm Wise Lite Sterling carbine, made from surplus parts and listed for around $500. I wanted one but never got around to ordering one til they were all gone. Now they sell on GB for 2 to 3 times that asking price.

Just ordered mine, where can a tabbed carrier be found for $50? Might as well purchase a little insurance for it.

The only person I know of doing it is on the CZ forum.

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=61434.0

He provides the tab and does the welding for $50. People have been happy with them. You'd just send him your bolt carrier.

Thank you, I'll check into it.

I also heard Bonesteel was selling carriers already tabbed for like $75 but I think they've been out for a while so they may not be doing it anymore. The guy posted above has gotten a lot of compliments on his work and based on posted pics looks like good solid work. Sounds like he has a quick turnaround as well. And there was one post about someone purchasing a CZ tabbed carrier for their Century rifle but had some fittment issues.

Upwards of 3000 rounds through my Century Vz58 and zero malfunctions. The tabbed carrier has been unneeded so far.

I have a wood stocked CIA that I bought from JG a few years ago. I have never shot it but just took it apart and it has the tab already welded.

I have a Ohio Ordnance VZ and one of the new Century/Paragon VZ's.  Both have been flawless.

I don't recall if the Century guns originally came with the tabbed carrier. But at some point (obviously) Century tabbed the carrier. They got into legal trouble with that. Because Czech Small Arms/Czechpoint owned/owns the patent to that fix/design. So after CSA slapped Century down. Century stopped doing the tab. And went with the modified disconnecter. Which seems to have mixed results.

Bought mine when AIM posted them for the first time this year.


The only problem I had was when I somehow had slightly put the upper (?) on slightly misaligned.  The pin went through, but there was still a bit of an angle on the upper, had many failures to fire.  Once I got everything correct, it shoot fine.

I bought one of the first ones AIM had. After 700rnds the trigger gremlin showed up. Sent it back and they put a different type of trigger group in. It has worked perfectly ever since. Then recently my folding stock broke, the lock bar broke where the nut attaches, CIA sent me a brand new stock assembly no questions asked. So mine had a couple issues but CIA fixed them, so I'm still happy with my purchase, it is the most accurate 7.62x39 I have ever shot and will shoot 2" groups at 100 yards from the bench. My AK's and SKS's never shoot that well.

I don't have a clear verdict on the VZ yet. I've had mine for almost 2 years, but don't get her out much. When I have, it seems that cold weather is the enemy. I had several jams in 10 degree weather once. However, I was using cheaper steel cased rounds. It just so-happened that I've had good luck recently, using more expensive brass rounds. It has been warm, too. I know metal expansion plays a large roll in tight tolerance areas, and "break-in". I haven't even looked to see if mine had the tab discussed.  The sights on it would barely allow a 2 inch MOA, as mentioned. That is feasible, at best. However, for the price, and durability, I believe the VZ-58 is among the top 10% as far as value-per-dollar. Especially if 50 bucks makes her better!
Mine has the bake lite grips, and folding skeleton stock, with pouch, old cleaning kit, bayonet, and 4 mags. (not clips!!!). Can't beat that for a starter kit, either. Fun! My AR is my true accuracy-baby. At least as far as Semi's go. My Weatherby .270 is my go-to for long-range. They call my AR a Varmint Rifle, 'cause varmints are pests, not cause its a small animal. Haha!

I bought one for a beater gun and haven't had any problems with it.  I've loaned it out as well and haven't had any complaints.

I bought one this year that kept getting cases stuck in the chamber.  Sent it back to Century, but that didn't help so I got rid of it.  Now with Palmetto's sale I nearly bought another one figuring I wouldn't get two duds, but I worry about it happening again and haven't gone through with the purchase.  Seems like those who have a good one have been real happy, and those who've had problems can't get them to run right at all.

I have one that I use as a "truck" gun/beater.  It's been reliable and mine seemed like it was put together by a reasonably competent craftsman.  FnF are just so-so, but that doesn't bother me.  I'm happy it goes bang and is accurate within 75 yards or so.  It will never replace my AKs because it's an oddball gun, the mags are funky, the parts are funky, I don't like the trigger that well and the cheek weld sucks, but it's a full pound lighter than the lightest of my AKs and it's pretty compact, so I like carrying it around over my AKs.  It's mostly just a fun gun, but if you were on a budget and you needed a fighting rifle, for the price of a SKS you can get a VZ58 and it'll do the trick.

Thinking out loud here but...

I'm thinking of replacing my 107 with a 2008. I will likely sell the 107 to fund a nice long range capable  rifle.

Good idea? Because my take so far is that the VS is just as capable as the 107 but maybe just not as attractive. These are shooters and I already have a 101 for the heavy lifting so the 107 was all about having a lighter more portable option. And while the shared mags is cool I think I will get over it. So now with these deals on the 2008 I'm really having to think about how to get the most out of the ammo and my money.

You can buy, ship, and transfer a VZ (that comes with 5 mags which is a nice little Truck gun load) plus buy two cases of 7.62x39mm for under 1K.  Boom.

ETA or buy two VZs and a case of ammo for just a hair over 1K.  Double boom.

They actually fixed mine and it had been awesome ever since bought a fixed stock cheap on ebay for it and like it too. If you paracord the folder it is actually pretty comfortable. I've used this rifle in the negative temps with no issues. This one has 1000 rnds. through her already.

Glad to hear they fixed yours texcl, not convinced Century actually works that hard to fix them.

I tend to agree with you. The one I picked up from them last week runs great. If they have any left come payday I will be getting a second one.