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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:40:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: PA_Marshall]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
... These followers are getting smacked by an angry bolt... I would use the strongest polymer available. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
Originally Posted By D_CRISIS:
Originally Posted By Hizzie:
Originally Posted By D_CRISIS:
Better idea. How about a high viz version? Orange or red followers. Even Magpul is dropping colored pmags since black is stronger. Not talking about mags, just the followers. And for those color polymer must be good enough since their AK mags have bright red followers. ... These followers are getting smacked by an angry bolt... I would use the strongest polymer available. We did its a high strength glass filled polymer with metal bolt hold open insert. We tested them with going on 2000 bho follower actions with no sign of failure. Its why we offer a lifetime warranty. Also the force coming back after the shot is some redirected energy but mainly the bolt spring. I have been shooting them for 3 years now they are good to go. -Dimitri |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 7:23:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PrimaryArms:
We did its a high strength glass filled polymer with metal bolt hold open insert. We tested them with going on 2000 bho follower actions with no sign of failure. Its why we offer a lifetime warranty. Also the force coming back after the shot is some redirected energy but mainly the bolt spring. I have been shooting them for 3 years now they are good to go. -Dimitri Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Originally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
Originally Posted By D_CRISIS:
Originally Posted By Hizzie:
Originally Posted By D_CRISIS:
Better idea. How about a high viz version? Orange or red followers. Even Magpul is dropping colored pmags since black is stronger. Not talking about mags, just the followers. And for those color polymer must be good enough since their AK mags have bright red followers. ... These followers are getting smacked by an angry bolt... I would use the strongest polymer available. We did its a high strength glass filled polymer with metal bolt hold open insert. We tested them with going on 2000 bho follower actions with no sign of failure. Its why we offer a lifetime warranty. Also the force coming back after the shot is some redirected energy but mainly the bolt spring. I have been shooting them for 3 years now they are good to go. -Dimitri If you've been testing them for 3 years....why are they only now going on sale? 
Three years is a good length of time to test something like this for durability's sake.....but couldn't they have been put up for sale after 2 years????? 
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Posted: 9/2/2014 8:52:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PrimaryArms:
We did its a high strength glass filled polymer with metal bolt hold open insert. We tested them with going on 2000 bho follower actions with no sign of failure. Its why we offer a lifetime warranty. Also the force coming back after the shot is some redirected energy but mainly the bolt spring. I have been shooting them for 3 years now they are good to go. -Dimitri Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Originally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
Originally Posted By D_CRISIS:
Originally Posted By Hizzie:
Originally Posted By D_CRISIS:
Better idea. How about a high viz version? Orange or red followers. Even Magpul is dropping colored pmags since black is stronger. Not talking about mags, just the followers. And for those color polymer must be good enough since their AK mags have bright red followers. ... These followers are getting smacked by an angry bolt... I would use the strongest polymer available. We did its a high strength glass filled polymer with metal bolt hold open insert. We tested them with going on 2000 bho follower actions with no sign of failure. Its why we offer a lifetime warranty. Also the force coming back after the shot is some redirected energy but mainly the bolt spring. I have been shooting them for 3 years now they are good to go. -Dimitri I'm not doubting your polymer choices. I was just saying I wouldn't want a weaker polymer just so it can be pink or tie-dye or something. Strongest is bestest.
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Posted: 9/3/2014 12:28:27 AM EDT
[#4]
Been using these followers the couple weeks. GTG! Well done.
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Posted: 9/3/2014 2:28:50 AM EDT
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how many packs do we need to order for a bulk discount?
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Posted: 9/3/2014 11:46:31 AM EDT
[#6]
If you've been testing them for 3 years....why are they only now going on sale?
Three years is a good length of time to test something like this for durability's sake.....but couldn't they have been put up for sale after 2 years????? Its a long story.....lets not go there.. they are here now enjoy. -Dimitri |
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Posted: 9/3/2014 11:47:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_CRISIS:
how many packs do we need to order for a bulk discount? Min order through Weapon tech I believe is 100 3 packs for dealers. -Dimitri |
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Posted: 9/3/2014 11:47:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SLRrifleworks:
Been using these followers the couple weeks. GTG! Well done. Thanks SLR |
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Posted: 9/3/2014 5:35:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Min order through Weapon tech I believe is 100 3 packs for dealers. -Dimitri Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Originally Posted By D_CRISIS:
how many packs do we need to order for a bulk discount? Min order through Weapon tech I believe is 100 3 packs for dealers. -Dimitri I don't have that many mags.
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Posted: 9/6/2014 11:12:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_CRISIS:
I don't have that many mags. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_CRISIS:
Originally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Originally Posted By D_CRISIS:
how many packs do we need to order for a bulk discount? Min order through Weapon tech I believe is 100 3 packs for dealers. -Dimitri I don't have that many mags. Yeah I understand. When Marshall gets back we will look things over. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 9/16/2014 12:48:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDo y'all know if these will need to be shortened or anything for 20 round Hungarian mags? They work just fine in my Hungarian Tanker 20 round mags, no mods required. I'll order some more. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 9/24/2014 10:10:11 AM EDT
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I'm glad someone finally brought this to market. It's an idea that's way overdue and if I had the means I would have done it years ago.
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Posted: 9/26/2014 10:00:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Emegbers:
I'm glad someone finally brought this to market. It's an idea that's way overdue and if I had the means I would have done it years ago. Thank you. Its simple concept but it was a long road with a lot of trial and error to get to the final product/design and back it with a life time warranty. Dimitri |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 9/28/2014 12:27:11 AM EDT
[#14]
I just picked up two three packs. My only regret is not getting four three packs. The seem too work pretty well to me.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/12/2014 10:36:27 AM EDT
[#15]
Just ordered a pack of 3.... Good things.... I can't wait!!!!
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Posted: 10/13/2014 12:45:31 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PrimaryArms:
I run into the " what good is it if the bolt drops?" well you know the gun is empty! I have ran around for over 15+ seconds only to pull the trigger and hear CLICK!!! Thank God it was not in a self defense situation. Dimitri LOL So...in a self-defense situation with your BHO mag, you would "run around for over 15+ seconds" toward an attacker with only 1 round left? If I know I've already shot 20+, I'm gonna go ahead and put in a fresh mag. But that's just me. |
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Posted: 10/13/2014 1:06:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TexasRifleman1985]
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cochraneap:
LOL So...in a self-defense situation with your BHO mag, you would "run around for over 15+ seconds" toward an attacker with only 1 round left? If I know I've already shot 20+, I'm gonna go ahead and put in a fresh mag. But that's just me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cochraneap:
Originally Posted By PrimaryArms:
I run into the " what good is it if the bolt drops?" well you know the gun is empty! I have ran around for over 15+ seconds only to pull the trigger and hear CLICK!!! Thank God it was not in a self defense situation. Dimitri LOL So...in a self-defense situation with your BHO mag, you would "run around for over 15+ seconds" toward an attacker with only 1 round left? If I know I've already shot 20+, I'm gonna go ahead and put in a fresh mag. But that's just me. That's great in theory. When suppressing or engaging point targets at ~200 yards, do you plan on reloading every 20 rounds? |
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Posted: 10/13/2014 1:46:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
That's great in theory. When suppressing or engaging point targets at ~200 yards, do you plan on reloading every 20 rounds? Not even close to the situation he described. He said he has "ran around for over 15+ seconds only to pull the trigger and hear CLICK!!! Thank God it was not in a self defense situation." Meaning he was running toward a target, without firing any rounds...not actively suppressing and/or engaging targets, as you described. In a future self-defense situation, he could use that "15+ second" break to insert in a new 30rd mag, but instead will rely on his BHO follower, which assures him that he still has at least 1 round to empty. |
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Posted: 10/13/2014 6:17:09 PM EDT
[#19]
Got some... they are great!
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Posted: 10/13/2014 7:56:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/13/2014 9:04:18 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liquidmetal:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7JPbY1CEiY&list=UUvtuPgvFmA--W404WkST8GAThat guy is so tactical, he has to change his shirt six times per range outing.
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Posted: 10/13/2014 9:08:22 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
That guy is so tactical, he has to change his shirt six times per range outing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
Originally Posted By Liquidmetal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7JPbY1CEiY&list=UUvtuPgvFmA--W404WkST8GAThat guy is so tactical, he has to change his shirt six times per range outing. 6 times? Nice. The number keeps getting higher! 
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Posted: 10/13/2014 10:05:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PA_Marshall]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By plouffedaddy:
6 times? Nice. The number keeps getting higher! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By plouffedaddy:
Originally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
Originally Posted By Liquidmetal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7JPbY1CEiY&list=UUvtuPgvFmA--W404WkST8GAThat guy is so tactical, he has to change his shirt six times per range outing. 6 times? Nice. The number keeps getting higher! I thought it was 7. It looks like it took several days to film. Did you want him to wear the same outfit 3 days in a row? Great video! -Dimitri |
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Posted: 10/13/2014 10:08:22 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cochraneap:
LOL So...in a self-defense situation with your BHO mag, you would "run around for over 15+ seconds" toward an attacker with only 1 round left? If I know I've already shot 20+, I'm gonna go ahead and put in a fresh mag. But that's just me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cochraneap:
Originally Posted By PrimaryArms:
I run into the " what good is it if the bolt drops?" well you know the gun is empty! I have ran around for over 15+ seconds only to pull the trigger and hear CLICK!!! Thank God it was not in a self defense situation. Dimitri LOL So...in a self-defense situation with your BHO mag, you would "run around for over 15+ seconds" toward an attacker with only 1 round left? If I know I've already shot 20+, I'm gonna go ahead and put in a fresh mag. But that's just me. What if your down to your last mag/rounds? Or is it just you that never runs out of ammo kind of like the movies? -Dimitri |
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Posted: 10/13/2014 10:09:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PA_Marshall]
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PrimaryArms:
What if your down to your last mag/rounds? I rather have one 7.62x39 round then to hear that stupid click and get shot instead. -Dimitri Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Originally Posted By cochraneap:
Originally Posted By PrimaryArms:
I run into the " what good is it if the bolt drops?" well you know the gun is empty! I have ran around for over 15+ seconds only to pull the trigger and hear CLICK!!! Thank God it was not in a self defense situation. Dimitri LOL So...in a self-defense situation with your BHO mag, you would "run around for over 15+ seconds" toward an attacker with only 1 round left? If I know I've already shot 20+, I'm gonna go ahead and put in a fresh mag. But that's just me. What if your down to your last mag/rounds? I rather have one 7.62x39 round then to hear that stupid click and get shot instead. -Dimitri |
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Posted: 10/13/2014 10:19:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PrimaryArms:
I thought it was 7. It looks like it took several days to film. Did you want him to wear the same outfit 3 days in a row? Great video! -Dimitri Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Originally Posted By plouffedaddy:
Originally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
Originally Posted By Liquidmetal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7JPbY1CEiY&list=UUvtuPgvFmA--W404WkST8GAThat guy is so tactical, he has to change his shirt six times per range outing. 6 times? Nice. The number keeps getting higher! I thought it was 7. It looks like it took several days to film. Did you want him to wear the same outfit 3 days in a row? Great video! -Dimitri Indeed. People are funny and they assume that because another channel films one way that I do as well. I bring tons (like 15-20) guns to the range each trip and all are undergoing review so it takes a while to get footage for 1 review... |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 10/19/2014 1:19:59 PM EDT
[#27]
So . . . still no news on 5.45 BHO followers?
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Posted: 10/23/2014 10:48:09 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By beanz2:
So . . . still no news on 5.45 BHO followers? http://blog.timesunion.com/highschool/files/2011/12/impatient.jpg We are working on it but its a ways out -D |
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Posted: 10/24/2014 8:08:42 PM EDT
[#29]
I didn't see this mentioned (could have missed it) but this is GTG with bakelites?
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Posted: 10/25/2014 12:26:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PA_Marshall]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NorthBridge:
I didn't see this mentioned (could have missed it) but this is GTG with bakelites? Yes they work great! -Dimitri |
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Posted: 11/1/2014 6:48:51 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Yes they work great! -Dimitri Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Originally Posted By NorthBridge:
I didn't see this mentioned (could have missed it) but this is GTG with bakelites? Yes they work great! -Dimitri Yup. In the video below around the 2:20 mark you'll see the combo in action:
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Posted: 11/2/2014 8:34:46 AM EDT
[#32]
We have tested these and they work great no issues and easy to install
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Posted: 11/11/2014 8:22:48 PM EDT
[#33]
Just stumbled on this thread, never heard of them but I'll be ordering some.
I've been trying to figure out for a week what I was going to do for 922r compliance once I start swapping parts, this will make that easy. 
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Posted: 11/15/2014 1:42:11 AM EDT
[#34]
Will these work in mags that have had the dimples dremeled out?
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Posted: 11/15/2014 4:52:16 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trumptone:
Will these work in mags that have had the dimples dremeled out? They did in the one I dremeled out. Zero issues. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 11:35:24 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trumptone:
Will these work in mags that have had the dimples dremeled out? Yes they are designed to bi pass those dimples so your good to go. We warn people not to do that trying to make theirs mags BHO it will destroy the follower and mag. It always falls on def ears, and then we get the couch ninja telling us we don't know what we are talking about ;) -Dimitri |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 7:36:15 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PrimaryArms:
We did and they did not work as well, the original Yugo mags had an angle were the follower hit, the standard mags don't have it and metal on metal became very unreliable. These are made from a high strength glass filled polymer and metal bolt hold insert. Try dremeling one and see just how tough they are!!We have sold thousands and have not had a single customer service issue or return. We offer a life time unconditional no questions asked warranty. -Dimitri Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Originally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
I do wish you guys would make a steel version. I understand the reasons for polymer, but I would prefer steel. We did and they did not work as well, the original Yugo mags had an angle were the follower hit, the standard mags don't have it and metal on metal became very unreliable. These are made from a high strength glass filled polymer and metal bolt hold insert. Try dremeling one and see just how tough they are!!We have sold thousands and have not had a single customer service issue or return. We offer a life time unconditional no questions asked warranty. -Dimitri Challenge accepted. They weren't too hard to cut. I had two 5 round magazines with shorter followers to make them 10 rounders. The new bho followers seem to function fine when cut down. The only issue is cutting them stops them from being anti-tilt mags, same with the original metal followers though. Since I cut them, do you still back them up with the warranty? You told me to do it.
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:12:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: PA_Marshall]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trumptone:
Challenge accepted. They weren't too hard to cut. I had two 5 round magazines with shorter followers to make them 10 rounders. The new bho followers seem to function fine when cut down. The only issue is cutting them stops them from being anti-tilt mags, same with the original metal followers though. Since I cut them, do you still back them up with the warranty? You told me to do it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trumptone:
Originally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Originally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
I do wish you guys would make a steel version. I understand the reasons for polymer, but I would prefer steel. We did and they did not work as well, the original Yugo mags had an angle were the follower hit, the standard mags don't have it and metal on metal became very unreliable. These are made from a high strength glass filled polymer and metal bolt hold insert. Try dremeling one and see just how tough they are!!We have sold thousands and have not had a single customer service issue or return. We offer a life time unconditional no questions asked warranty. -Dimitri Challenge accepted. They weren't too hard to cut. I had two 5 round magazines with shorter followers to make them 10 rounders. The new bho followers seem to function fine when cut down. The only issue is cutting them stops them from being anti-tilt mags, same with the original metal followers though. Since I cut them, do you still back them up with the warranty? You told me to do it. You cut the Weapontech followers? LOL when did I tell you to cut them? We were talking about the steel ones, guys try all kinds of things to try and make that work and ruin the mag. Did you just cut the bottom off? -Dimitri |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 4:29:19 PM EDT
[#39]
Read the part where I quoted you. Yes, I cut the bottom off.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 11:05:09 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trumptone:
Read the part where I quoted you. Yes, I cut the bottom off. So its working? I would love to see a pic of it. -Dimitri |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 1:49:44 PM EDT
[#41]
I have only hand cycled ammo through these so far, I haven't field tested them, but they seem to be working fine. In the third picture, where the arrow is pointing, there is a little wear from the rim of the casing when it is pushed forward. Is this wear normal? |
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Posted: 12/1/2014 10:31:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trumptone:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17932681/Follower/bho%20follower%201.jpg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17932681/Follower/bho%20follower%202.jpg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17932681/Follower/bho%20follower%203.jpg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17932681/Follower/bho%20follower%204.jpg I have only hand cycled ammo through these so far, I haven't field tested them, but they seem to be working fine. In the third picture, where the arrow is pointing, there is a little wear from the rim of the casing when it is pushed forward. Is this wear normal? Looks good ;;) yeah that's normal it will not grind beyond that. Cool! And yes we will back the warranty since I talked you into chopping them lol. -Dimitri |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 12/20/2014 7:29:39 PM EDT
[#43]
These work great!
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Posted: 1/1/2015 11:18:04 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NeverMiss556:
These work great! Thank you and please post your review to let other know. -Dimitri |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 10:10:47 PM EDT
[#45]
Bought a few used Yugo BHO mags and 2 of the three would not reliably load the first round, even replaced the springs with wolf springs did not help.
These on the other hand function flawlessly in my polymer Romanian mags, Tapco 20 & 30 rounders and in two different style steel mags. Still have a few mags that need these, it's just to bad they don't work with the Magpul mags. Thanks guys for all your testing and carrying such a great, value added product. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 3/15/2015 4:29:04 PM EDT
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I like the BHO concept, picked up several 3 packs of the BHO followers to retrofit my Romanian surplus AK 20-rd mags. After installation, the follower seems to jam about halfway down the mag. The old metal followers worked fine. Does anyone have any experience with "Dremeling" a bit of the new followers to assist in smooth travel in the mag? Suggestions, ideas appreciated.
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Posted: 3/24/2015 10:02:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1boomer:
I like the BHO concept, picked up several 3 packs of the BHO followers to retrofit my Romanian surplus AK 20-rd mags. After installation, the follower seems to jam about halfway down the mag. The old metal followers worked fine. Does anyone have any experience with "Dremeling" a bit of the new followers to assist in smooth travel in the mag? Suggestions, ideas appreciated. Hm seems weird, might want to look inside for dents in the mag its self, clean it all out. Then take some sand paper and smooth out the followers edges. Let me know if that works for you. -Dimitri |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2015 11:40:48 AM EDT
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Thanks Dimitri,
I know it does seem weird. I will check out the interiors of the mags. I had cleaned the interior and exterior after purchase of the milsurp Romanian mags. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2015 12:57:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PrimaryArms:
We are working on it but its a ways out -D Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Originally Posted By beanz2:
So . . . still no news on 5.45 BHO followers? http://blog.timesunion.com/highschool/files/2011/12/impatient.jpg We are working on it but its a ways out -D Any chance of a 556 version? Which mag??? Probably the Bulgy waffles, but Norinco 556 would be cool too  . Given the multitudes of different 223 AK mags it may be a money loser, but consider it a public sevice
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SC, USA
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Posted: 6/6/2015 8:18:00 AM EDT
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I converted three of my Hungarian tankers last fall, they've been used dozens of times since, no issues, will probably get more.
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