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Posted: 3/19/2014 8:29:13 AM EDT
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This is great news! IO is bottom of the barrel.
I only hope they bring in something besides just the Beryl. I would love a traditional polish made AKM. |
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Posted: 3/19/2014 8:46:49 AM EDT
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This is great news! IO is bottom of the barrel. I only hope they bring in something besides just the Beryl. I would love a traditional polish made AKM. FB Radom does not make 7.62 AKM any more. What you can expect is Beryl and Mini-Beryl (in pistol configuration) in 5.56 and 5.45. Possibly also new pistol from FB Radom. MSBS is still long way to go, FB Radom does not own all rights to it, plus US AIWB can be more tricky for this kind of rifle, than it is for AK style rifle. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:05:18 AM EDT
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how about ummm, how about those SVD's (SWD) the Polish Army isn't using anymore, we'll take all of them
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:20:56 AM EDT
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Looking foward to a Beryl
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FB Radom does not make 7.62 AKM any more. What you can expect is Beryl and Mini-Beryl (in pistol configuration) in 5.56 and 5.45. Possibly also new pistol from FB Radom. MSBS is still long way to go, FB Radom does not own all rights to it, plus US AIWB can be more tricky for this kind of rifle, than it is for AK style rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is great news! IO is bottom of the barrel. I only hope they bring in something besides just the Beryl. I would love a traditional polish made AKM. FB Radom does not make 7.62 AKM any more. What you can expect is Beryl and Mini-Beryl (in pistol configuration) in 5.56 and 5.45. Possibly also new pistol from FB Radom. MSBS is still long way to go, FB Radom does not own all rights to it, plus US AIWB can be more tricky for this kind of rifle, than it is for AK style rifle. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 11:00:26 AM EDT
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how about ummm, how about those SVD's (SWD) the Polish Army isn't using anymore, we'll take all of them Those that were for sale are already sold, those they keep (SWD-M) are so far out of reach. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:58:27 PM EDT
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The Beryl Pistol is on my wishlist to SBR. I hope they bring import the VIS35 Pistol too!
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Posted: 3/21/2014 11:58:05 PM EDT
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Those that were for sale are already sold, those they keep (SWD-M) are so far out of reach. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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how about ummm, how about those SVD's (SWD) the Polish Army isn't using anymore, we'll take all of them Those that were for sale are already sold, those they keep (SWD-M) are so far out of reach. Well, thanks for crushing my hopes. I really want someone to start making an SVD rifle in the states. I mean, com'on. The demand is there. WHY U NO MAKE SVD? I'd still possibly take a Beryl 5.56 rifle though, or maybe even a 7.62 variant. Probably leaning closer to the 5.56 variant though. Originality and I'm stocking up on 5.56 every week. |
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Posted: 3/22/2014 6:30:24 PM EDT
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You guys should read the information in the following link, as it comes straight from Ted Marshall who is part of this new expansion of FB Radom in the USA. He talks about a few tid bits of information, but can't talk about everything yet, as some things are still being finalized. This is exciting news for the US market.
FB Radom USA info |
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Posted: 4/1/2014 10:40:31 AM EDT
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Information is surfacing that the ATF is claiming that the 5.45 ban is a direct result of Radoms 89 pistol. If true, I wonder what the potential backlash will be on Radom and how it will affect their future plans if at all?
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Posted: 4/1/2014 2:58:59 PM EDT
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Information is surfacing that the ATF is claiming that the 5.45 ban is a direct result of Radoms 89 pistol. If true, I wonder what the potential backlash will be on Radom and how it will affect their future plans if at all? The ATF is just looking for ANY excuse to ban everything, so I wouldn't beat up Radom too much about it. If it wasn't them it would have been someone else sooner or later. |
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Posted: 4/3/2014 5:08:55 AM EDT
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Information is surfacing that the ATF is claiming that the 5.45 ban is a direct result of Radoms 89 pistol. If true, I wonder what the potential backlash will be on Radom and how it will affect their future plans if at all? ZM "Lucznik" Radom didn't make wz.89 Onyks as pistol. Plus it is not in production since 1994 or so. |
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Posted: 4/8/2014 4:20:30 PM EDT
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http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2014/04/040714-special-advisory-test-examination-and-classification-7n6-545x39-ammunition.html
This directly from the ATF: "When ATF tested the 7N6 samples provided by CBP, they were found to contain a steel core. ATF’s analysis also concluded that the ammunition could be used in a commercially available handgun, the Fabryka Bronie Radom, Model Onyks 89S, 5.45x39 caliber semi-automatic pistol, which was approved for importation into the United States in November 2011." |
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Posted: 4/9/2014 8:48:17 AM EDT
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http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2014/04/040714-special-advisory-test-examination-and-classification-7n6-545x39-ammunition.html This directly from the ATF: "When ATF tested the 7N6 samples provided by CBP, they were found to contain a steel core. ATF’s analysis also concluded that the ammunition could be used in a commercially available handgun, the Fabryka Bronie Radom, Model Onyks 89S, 5.45x39 caliber semi-automatic pistol, which was approved for importation into the United States in November 2011." So looks like some surplus importer (my bet goes on I.O. Inc.) wanted to import Onyks as a pistol and named FB Radom as manufacturer. FB Radom (Fabryka Broni "Lucznik" w Radomiu) never produced Onyks. It did not exist when Onyks went out of mnaufacture. It was only made by "Lucznik" (Zaklady Mechaniczne "Lucznik" w Radomiu) aka (11). ZM Lucznik went bankrupt in 2000. FB Radom was new company that bought some assets of ZM Lucznik to continue manufacture of Beryl. |
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Posted: 4/13/2014 2:27:39 PM EDT
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So not only was the pistol never imported, it was never even manufactured by Radom so all the info they based the ban on is wrong.
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Posted: 4/14/2014 9:55:56 AM EDT
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So not only was the pistol never imported, it was never even manufactured by Radom so all the info they based the ban on is wrong. This is not shocking, the Administration is looking for ANY reason to ban ANY firearms and ammunition. It seems the application for an import license alone is enough for them to act. Even if that weapon was never imported or even made for that matter. |
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Posted: 4/25/2014 5:51:32 PM EDT
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I sure hope we'll get the MSBS here. That rifle looks very promising.
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Posted: 4/29/2014 10:50:06 AM EDT
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This is not shocking, the Administration is looking for ANY reason to ban ANY firearms and ammunition. It seems the application for an import license alone is enough for them to act. Even if that weapon was never imported or even made for that matter. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So not only was the pistol never imported, it was never even manufactured by Radom so all the info they based the ban on is wrong. This is not shocking, the Administration is looking for ANY reason to ban ANY firearms and ammunition. It seems the application for an import license alone is enough for them to act. Even if that weapon was never imported or even made for that matter. Per info it was approved to import in 2011 and they did not notice that for almost 3 years? I think they were digging up to find something that supports decision already made and this was first hit their query. |
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Posted: 5/2/2014 10:09:57 AM EDT
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Per info it was approved to import in 2011 and they did not notice that for almost 3 years? I think they were digging up to find something that supports decision already made and this was first hit their query. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So not only was the pistol never imported, it was never even manufactured by Radom so all the info they based the ban on is wrong. This is not shocking, the Administration is looking for ANY reason to ban ANY firearms and ammunition. It seems the application for an import license alone is enough for them to act. Even if that weapon was never imported or even made for that matter. Per info it was approved to import in 2011 and they did not notice that for almost 3 years? I think they were digging up to find something that supports decision already made and this was first hit their query. I would not put anything past this Administration. |
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Posted: 5/6/2014 4:51:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:I would not put anything past this Administration. I know how bureaucracy works. I live on public sector here. Mentality is universal globally. Things do not magically show up, when someone found a file that fall behind the drawer. They were looking for something like it, digging back trough papers. Or someone had bright moment of recollection on some meeting on "how can we ban 5.45 surplus ammo from coming to our shores". |
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Posted: 6/22/2014 7:07:04 PM EDT
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I hope they build a full line of goodness . More builders the better
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Posted: 7/20/2014 12:47:28 PM EDT
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Any new updates?
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Posted: 7/20/2014 2:39:25 PM EDT
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Any new updates? |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 7:44:36 AM EDT
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FB Radom moved out from old facilities in centre of Radom to new one on outskirts of Radom (near hwy to Warsaw). I could not come to official opening ceremony (big party, with politicians and what not), but soon will have full tour of new facility. I hope to get some informations and finally pick up some stuff (he knows what) for one forum member (he knows who) ;)
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Posted: 7/22/2014 9:50:58 AM EDT
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FB Radom moved out from old facilities in centre of Radom to new one on outskirts of Radom (near hwy to Warsaw). I could not come to official opening ceremony (big party, with politicians and what not), but soon will have full tour of new facility. I hope to get some informations and finally pick up some stuff (he knows what) for one forum member (he knows who) ;) Sounds good. You should get something this week. 
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Posted: 7/30/2014 2:38:21 PM EDT
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Come on AR magazine adapters!
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Posted: 7/31/2014 8:34:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Sounds good. You should get something this week. I will visit factory tomorrow. Hope to have some news that I can share. BTW Those jelly beans are killing me. Especially mixed with honey peanut butter. Must go on diet! |
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Posted: 8/8/2014 1:24:26 PM EDT
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^ Any news on the US branch?
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Posted: 8/11/2014 8:41:37 AM EDT
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Nope. I've met CEO, but there were other pressing matters to discuss. I just did not have opportunity to ask about it before he flee to next meeting. Sorry.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 5:04:24 AM EDT
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No worries; I'll just keep checking up for updates
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Posted: 9/6/2014 1:36:22 PM EDT
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Bump.
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Posted: 9/8/2014 9:46:59 AM EDT
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They are in process of sorting out all red tape - they need tons of licences, I've been told. Can't start importing and selling even a roll pin without it.
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Posted: 9/14/2014 5:47:09 AM EDT
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Soooo...
Any word if they'll produce the new MSBS here? I'd take one. 
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Posted: 9/14/2014 12:06:08 PM EDT
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Soooo... Any word if they'll produce the new MSBS here? I'd take one. Apparently its a matter of time. But I don't like waiting. 
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Posted: 9/14/2014 8:54:13 PM EDT
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Apparently its a matter of time. But I don't like waiting.
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Soooo... Any word if they'll produce the new MSBS here? I'd take one. Apparently its a matter of time. But I don't like waiting.
I'd probably be more interested in a Beryl Archer in 5.56 since it'll probably be a lot cheaper (and I'd like an AK that has better ballistics than the 7.62 round, without having to go 5.45) but yeah, It'll probably be a while before they get going. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 12:18:24 PM EDT
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bump
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Posted: 11/23/2014 5:43:30 PM EDT
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Any update?
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Posted: 12/26/2014 7:33:16 PM EDT
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In, and I will f!$@ing cry of they don't sell AKMs.
Not even my ARs shoot 5.5fail/.223. |
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Posted: 12/29/2014 6:26:48 PM EDT
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I'm 99% sure they will not be selling AKM's in 7.62 x 39 or 5.45
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Posted: 1/4/2015 12:42:22 AM EDT
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That makes me very sad.
Please understand, no offense intended, but I hope your wrong! |
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Posted: 1/4/2015 2:49:09 AM EDT
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I'd sell body parts to get a Polish AK in .556
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Posted: 1/22/2015 5:19:53 PM EDT
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Seems they officially announced it at SHOT show this week. AK operators union local 47/74 reported it.
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Posted: 1/22/2015 6:18:04 PM EDT
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Seems they officially announced it at SHOT show this week. AK operators union local 47/74 reported it. Link??? |
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Posted: 1/22/2015 8:50:47 PM EDT
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I want these:
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Posted: 1/22/2015 11:13:35 PM EDT
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I want these: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/762pr-msbs556-family.jpg Yes please, to hell with the Archer if I can get that. |
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Posted: 2/5/2015 5:39:50 PM EDT
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Montrala, do you know if FB Radom is planning on bringing in a 7.62 x 39 mm version of the Beryl?
I read somewhere that there is such thing as Beryl in 7.62 currently produced for the Nigerian Army. I don't know if any of this is true, but maybe you know something? |
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Posted: 2/5/2015 7:13:38 PM EDT
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Montrala, do you know if FB Radom is planning on bringing in a 7.62 x 39 mm version of the Beryl? I read somewhere that there is such thing as Beryl in 7.62 currently produced for the Nigerian Army. I don't know if any of this is true, but maybe you know something? The Beryl M762 was presented in the US on SHOT Show 2015 at FB booth. According to FB representatives so far the semi-automatic civilian variant of the M762 would not be available, because - and I quote - "It would be just an another AK". But we in Poland also try to push them to built them for our market. 
The Beryl M762 compared to Beryl M545 and wz. 96C Beryl (a Polish Army standard issued rifle). 
A prototype of a new translucent polymer 7.62 magazine manufactured for the Beryl M762. |
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Posted: 2/5/2015 8:08:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2015 7:57:09 AM EDT
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;-) |
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Posted: 2/6/2015 5:37:15 PM EDT
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I wouldn't exactly say it's "just another AK". If you really think about it there's not much high quality out-of-the box AK's. Canted sights/gas blocks are passed off as a normal thing if that says anything.
Then there's the special order $2k+ RD and Krebs rifles. They are nice, but there isn't much to choose from out of factory offerings. I'm sure there's lots of people who would really want a Beryl, but the magazines are always an issue to think about. With the 7.62 that problem goes away. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The first batch of 1,000 Beryl M762 assault rifles (select fire variant) was send to Nigeria one week ago. Generally it is a wz. 96 Beryl but chambered in 7.62x39 mm with separate selector and safe levers, but a single prototype of M762 with the AK-safety/selector switch was also created. The Beryl M762 was presented in the US on SHOT Show 2015 at FB booth. According to FB representatives so far the semi-automatic civilian variant of the M762 would not be available, because - and I quote - "It would be just an another AK". But we in Poland also try to push them to built them for our market. http://abload.de/img/beryl_m762rrupg.jpg http://abload.de/img/_p1550767-8005uu2u.jpg http://abload.de/img/_p1550662-800ivunt.jpg http://abload.de/img/_p1550665-50003uw1.jpg The Beryl M762 compared to Beryl M545 and wz. 96C Beryl (a Polish Army standard issued rifle). http://abload.de/img/_dsc03599-80027q4r.jpg A prototype of a new translucent polymer 7.62 magazine manufactured for the Beryl M762. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Montrala, do you know if FB Radom is planning on bringing in a 7.62 x 39 mm version of the Beryl? I read somewhere that there is such thing as Beryl in 7.62 currently produced for the Nigerian Army. I don't know if any of this is true, but maybe you know something? The Beryl M762 was presented in the US on SHOT Show 2015 at FB booth. According to FB representatives so far the semi-automatic civilian variant of the M762 would not be available, because - and I quote - "It would be just an another AK". But we in Poland also try to push them to built them for our market. http://abload.de/img/beryl_m762rrupg.jpg http://abload.de/img/_p1550767-8005uu2u.jpg http://abload.de/img/_p1550662-800ivunt.jpg http://abload.de/img/_p1550665-50003uw1.jpg The Beryl M762 compared to Beryl M545 and wz. 96C Beryl (a Polish Army standard issued rifle). http://abload.de/img/_dsc03599-80027q4r.jpg A prototype of a new translucent polymer 7.62 magazine manufactured for the Beryl M762. |
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Posted: 2/16/2015 4:04:09 PM EDT
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tag,
I am between this and a Galil Ace... |
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