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Posted: 10/12/2014 3:28:58 PM EDT
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If I personally had never owned an AK and was only going to own one, I'd want a combloc gun.
To answer your question though, you really have to wait until the RAS47 is put through its paces for several months before deciding. If you can't wait, get the WASR. It's a known quantity, has a hammer forged, chrome lined barrel, it's cheaper and will run for decades. |
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Posted: 10/12/2014 3:59:26 PM EDT
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The WASRs that have been coming in are impressive. The sights are straight. Body is straight. The finish is done well. If I was in the market for an AK47 it would be the WASR.
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Posted: 10/12/2014 8:17:01 PM EDT
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I picked up a WASR a few weeks ago before Century announced the RAS47. At first I thought "damn it I wish I would have waited". But thinking it over, with a WASR your getting a comm.
bloc AK with a hammer forged/chrome lined barrel from a factory that has been building AKs for a long time. The RAS47 looks like it will be a winner on paper but I'll let others try it out first. I like the idea of the nitrite treatment on the RAS47 but Tim from Military Arms Channel made an interesting comment on Larry Vickers facebook page. Vickers had a picture of a Yugo AK (which was actually a Tabuk, but close enough) and asked what the major flaw with the rifle was. Vickers later answered and said the lack of a chrome lined bore. Tim stated "bi-metal bullets and non-chrome lined barrels (or nitrite treated) are a bad mix" I was under the impression nitrite treatment made the barrel harder than chrome, but honestly I don't know. Also I personally don't like how the RAS47 isn't cut for a cleaning rod and I would guess doesn't have the stock to put a cleaning kit it, that said the new WASRs don't have a spot for the cleaning kit either. Its my own weirdness but I like the idea of having a rifle I can grab and have everything I need to service the rifle contained in it except oil or grease and solvent. |
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Posted: 10/12/2014 8:41:08 PM EDT
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I picked up a WASR a few weeks ago before Century announced the RAS47. At first I thought "damn it I wish I would have waited". But thinking it over, with a WASR your getting a comm. bloc AK with a hammer forged/chrome lined barrel from a factory that has been building AKs for a long time. The RAS47 looks like it will be a winner on paper but I'll let others try it out first. I like the idea of the nitrite treatment on the RAS47 but Tim from Military Arms Channel made an interesting comment on Larry Vickers facebook page. Vickers had a picture of a Yugo AK (which was actually a Tabuk, but close enough) and asked what the major flaw with the rifle was. Vickers later answered and said the lack of a chrome lined bore. Tim stated "bi-metal bullets and non-chrome lined barrels (or nitrite treated) are a bad mix" I was under the impression nitrite treatment made the barrel harder than chrome, but honestly I don't know. Also I personally don't like how the RAS47 isn't cut for a cleaning rod and I would guess doesn't have the stock to put a cleaning kit it, that said the new WASRs don't have a spot for the cleaning kit either. Its my own weirdness but I like the idea of having a rifle I can grab and have everything I need to service the rifle contained in it except oil or grease and solvent. buy an ar and save yourself the headache. |
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Posted: 10/12/2014 8:58:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/12/2014 9:00:12 PM EDT
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buy an ar and save yourself the headache. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I picked up a WASR a few weeks ago before Century announced the RAS47. At first I thought "damn it I wish I would have waited". But thinking it over, with a WASR your getting a comm. bloc AK with a hammer forged/chrome lined barrel from a factory that has been building AKs for a long time. The RAS47 looks like it will be a winner on paper but I'll let others try it out first. I like the idea of the nitrite treatment on the RAS47 but Tim from Military Arms Channel made an interesting comment on Larry Vickers facebook page. Vickers had a picture of a Yugo AK (which was actually a Tabuk, but close enough) and asked what the major flaw with the rifle was. Vickers later answered and said the lack of a chrome lined bore. Tim stated "bi-metal bullets and non-chrome lined barrels (or nitrite treated) are a bad mix" I was under the impression nitrite treatment made the barrel harder than chrome, but honestly I don't know. Also I personally don't like how the RAS47 isn't cut for a cleaning rod and I would guess doesn't have the stock to put a cleaning kit it, that said the new WASRs don't have a spot for the cleaning kit either. Its my own weirdness but I like the idea of having a rifle I can grab and have everything I need to service the rifle contained in it except oil or grease and solvent. buy an ar and save yourself the headache. 
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Posted: 10/12/2014 9:52:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The WASRs that have been coming in are impressive. The sights are straight. Body is straight. The finish is done well. If I was in the market for an AK47 it would be the WASR. |
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Posted: 10/12/2014 10:49:35 PM EDT
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Would you say that they're as good or better than the old SAR-1? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The WASRs that have been coming in are impressive. The sights are straight. Body is straight. The finish is done well. If I was in the market for an AK47 it would be the WASR. I don't have shooting experience with the new WASRs, but I handled one today at Cabella's, and the fit, finish,straight sights, and general appeal of being "nice" are miles ahead of where my SAR1 and SAR 2. were in 2000. BUT, the new WASRs are priced about 2.23 times what I paid for the SARs back in the day. If I were in the market for a low/mid priced AK, I would by a WASR in a heartbeat. |
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Posted: 10/12/2014 11:03:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:, but I handled one today at Cabella's, I fondled the the same WASR's today at Cabelas. Kind of creepy in a way. 
The finish looks better than my SAR1. The serial number showed 2013 production. They had muzzle nuts that were welded to the front sight base. Is that the new normal? |
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Posted: 10/12/2014 11:41:14 PM EDT
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I like the idea of the nitrite treatment on the RAS47 but Tim from Military Arms Channel made an interesting comment on Larry Vickers facebook page. Vickers had a picture of a Yugo AK (which was actually a Tabuk, but close enough) and asked what the major flaw with the rifle was. Vickers later answered and said the lack of a chrome lined bore. Tim stated "bi-metal bullets and non-chrome lined barrels (or nitrite treated) are a bad mix" I was under the impression nitrite treatment made the barrel harder than chrome, but honestly I don't know.. There are a lot of non-chrome lined barrels out there holding up well after thousands of bi-metal rounds. As for nitriding, I'd take a nitrided barrel over a chrome-lined barrel every time. |
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Posted: 10/12/2014 11:50:43 PM EDT
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I fondled the the same WASR's today at Cabelas. Kind of creepy in a way.
The finish looks better than my SAR1. The serial number showed 2013 production. They had muzzle nuts that were welded to the front sight base. Is that the new normal? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:, but I handled one today at Cabella's, I fondled the the same WASR's today at Cabelas. Kind of creepy in a way.
The finish looks better than my SAR1. The serial number showed 2013 production. They had muzzle nuts that were welded to the front sight base. Is that the new normal? Historically WASR-10s have the welded muzzle nut and WASR-10/63s had the slant brake and bayonet lug. I have a 2013 produced WASR- 10 with the slant brake and bayonet lug from the factory, as well as the solid wood stock apposed to the laminate wood. I don't know if they stopped the 10/63 line or just introduced a new line of WASR -10s. EDIT: The new WASR-10 uses the same part number as the classic WASR-10/63 |
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Posted: 10/13/2014 12:24:03 AM EDT
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Would you say that they're as good or better than the old SAR-1? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The WASRs that have been coming in are impressive. The sights are straight. Body is straight. The finish is done well. If I was in the market for an AK47 it would be the WASR. I forget that some states get the ban version. In Texas the WASR 10/63 is available with the removable slant muzzle brake. The WASR is better in terms of finish, straight sights and body. The SAR1 is/was closest to the military configuration but again it was neutered to pass regulations. You would have to spend some money to get the SAR 1 to it's original configuration. Just get the WASR 10/63 and call it done. |
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Posted: 10/13/2014 12:41:50 AM EDT
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buy an ar and save yourself the headache. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I picked up a WASR a few weeks ago before Century announced the RAS47. At first I thought "damn it I wish I would have waited". But thinking it over, with a WASR your getting a comm. bloc AK with a hammer forged/chrome lined barrel from a factory that has been building AKs for a long time. The RAS47 looks like it will be a winner on paper but I'll let others try it out first. I like the idea of the nitrite treatment on the RAS47 but Tim from Military Arms Channel made an interesting comment on Larry Vickers facebook page. Vickers had a picture of a Yugo AK (which was actually a Tabuk, but close enough) and asked what the major flaw with the rifle was. Vickers later answered and said the lack of a chrome lined bore. Tim stated "bi-metal bullets and non-chrome lined barrels (or nitrite treated) are a bad mix" I was under the impression nitrite treatment made the barrel harder than chrome, but honestly I don't know. Also I personally don't like how the RAS47 isn't cut for a cleaning rod and I would guess doesn't have the stock to put a cleaning kit it, that said the new WASRs don't have a spot for the cleaning kit either. Its my own weirdness but I like the idea of having a rifle I can grab and have everything I need to service the rifle contained in it except oil or grease and solvent. buy an ar and save yourself the headache. Thanks for your valuable contribution
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Posted: 10/13/2014 1:00:34 AM EDT
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Thanks for your valuable contribution Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I picked up a WASR a few weeks ago before Century announced the RAS47. At first I thought "damn it I wish I would have waited". But thinking it over, with a WASR your getting a comm. bloc AK with a hammer forged/chrome lined barrel from a factory that has been building AKs for a long time. The RAS47 looks like it will be a winner on paper but I'll let others try it out first. I like the idea of the nitrite treatment on the RAS47 but Tim from Military Arms Channel made an interesting comment on Larry Vickers facebook page. Vickers had a picture of a Yugo AK (which was actually a Tabuk, but close enough) and asked what the major flaw with the rifle was. Vickers later answered and said the lack of a chrome lined bore. Tim stated "bi-metal bullets and non-chrome lined barrels (or nitrite treated) are a bad mix" I was under the impression nitrite treatment made the barrel harder than chrome, but honestly I don't know. Also I personally don't like how the RAS47 isn't cut for a cleaning rod and I would guess doesn't have the stock to put a cleaning kit it, that said the new WASRs don't have a spot for the cleaning kit either. Its my own weirdness but I like the idea of having a rifle I can grab and have everything I need to service the rifle contained in it except oil or grease and solvent. buy an ar and save yourself the headache. Thanks for your valuable contribution Stick to your selfies, Cub! 
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Posted: 10/13/2014 1:30:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I forget that some states get the ban version. In Texas the WASR 10/63 is available with the removable slant muzzle brake. The WASR is better in terms of finish, straight sights and body. The SAR1 is/was closest to the military configuration but again it was neutered to pass regulations. You would have to spend some money to get the SAR 1 to it's original configuration. Just get the WASR 10/63 and call it done. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The WASRs that have been coming in are impressive. The sights are straight. Body is straight. The finish is done well. If I was in the market for an AK47 it would be the WASR. I forget that some states get the ban version. In Texas the WASR 10/63 is available with the removable slant muzzle brake. The WASR is better in terms of finish, straight sights and body. The SAR1 is/was closest to the military configuration but again it was neutered to pass regulations. You would have to spend some money to get the SAR 1 to it's original configuration. Just get the WASR 10/63 and call it done. |
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Posted: 10/13/2014 1:30:11 AM EDT
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Play nice or there will be at least one account warning given.
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Posted: 10/13/2014 1:36:36 AM EDT
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I already have a couple SAR-1s in my collection and have had them for several years now, I was just curious about how they compared. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The WASRs that have been coming in are impressive. The sights are straight. Body is straight. The finish is done well. If I was in the market for an AK47 it would be the WASR. I forget that some states get the ban version. In Texas the WASR 10/63 is available with the removable slant muzzle brake. The WASR is better in terms of finish, straight sights and body. The SAR1 is/was closest to the military configuration but again it was neutered to pass regulations. You would have to spend some money to get the SAR 1 to it's original configuration. Just get the WASR 10/63 and call it done. Hey, I hold the SAR 1 in high regard. Just hate the fact the ATF didn't allow them to come in their original configuration minus the full auto of course. So the WASR 10/63 fits the bill in terms of being a low priced complete AK47 rifle. The dimple doesn't make a difference to me. 
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Posted: 10/13/2014 2:40:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey, I hold the SAR 1 in high regard. Just hate the fact the ATF didn't allow them to come in their original configuration minus the full auto of course. So the WASR 10/63 fits the bill in terms of being a low priced complete AK47 rifle. The dimple doesn't make a difference to me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The WASRs that have been coming in are impressive. The sights are straight. Body is straight. The finish is done well. If I was in the market for an AK47 it would be the WASR. I forget that some states get the ban version. In Texas the WASR 10/63 is available with the removable slant muzzle brake. The WASR is better in terms of finish, straight sights and body. The SAR1 is/was closest to the military configuration but again it was neutered to pass regulations. You would have to spend some money to get the SAR 1 to it's original configuration. Just get the WASR 10/63 and call it done. Hey, I hold the SAR 1 in high regard. Just hate the fact the ATF didn't allow them to come in their original configuration minus the full auto of course. So the WASR 10/63 fits the bill in terms of being a low priced complete AK47 rifle. The dimple doesn't make a difference to me. . But I'm glad to hear that they brought the WASRs up to snuff, there has been a real need for quality at a decent price.Oh and OP, sorry for the hijack. Personally I would probably hold out for the RAS-47. I looked into it, and the Melonite is a big plus. If funds allow, I see myself buying one in the future. |
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Posted: 10/13/2014 2:36:07 PM EDT
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This topic is of interest to me as well
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Posted: 10/19/2014 3:23:37 PM EDT
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Do the NEWER WASRs have a double hook trigger? Can someone post pictures of a NEWER WASR-10 ? Thanks in advance.
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Posted: 10/19/2014 6:16:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/19/2014 7:41:52 PM EDT
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Same with my 2013, it has a single hook trigger.
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:09:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryAwesome, thank you. Where did you buy your 2013 WASR from?
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:06:07 AM EDT
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Awesome, thank you. Where did you buy your 2013 WASR from? Quote HistoryI got my WASR from J&G, the "newer" link. J&G screws you out of a mag but when I got mine they were shipping them with a drum mag. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:07:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I got my WASR from J&G, the "newer" link. J&G screws you out of a mag but when I got mine they were shipping them with a drum mag. Quote HistoryQuoted: I got my WASR from J&G, the "newer" link. J&G screws you out of a mag but when I got mine they were shipping them with a drum mag. Nice, no canted sights?
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:40:47 AM EDT
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Front sight was canted some but it still zeroed fine.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:42:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Front sight was canted some but it still zeroed fine. That would bug me, LOL!
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Posted: 10/20/2014 6:36:54 PM EDT
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That would bug me, LOL!
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Front sight was canted some but it still zeroed fine. That would bug me, LOL!
Think of it as looking more "authentic"
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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:24:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Think of it as looking more "authentic" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Front sight was canted some but it still zeroed fine. That would bug me, LOL! Think of it as looking more "authentic" LOL!
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Posted: 10/21/2014 11:12:52 AM EDT
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Anyone know an ETA for when the Ras47 is coming out? I have a nice laminate AKM stock set I haven't been able to bring myself to put on a WASR, and would look good on there.
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Posted: 10/21/2014 12:49:04 PM EDT
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Anyone know an ETA for when the Ras47 is coming out? I have a nice laminate AKM stock set I haven't been able to bring myself to put on a WASR, and would look good on there. In Yeager's video the Century rep said December IIRC. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 11:46:31 PM EDT
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I would get an RAS47 over a WASR anyday. I'm willing to bet that these new RAS47's are going to be as good as Saigas in 7.62x39
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