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Posted: 12/28/2012 2:43:03 PM EST
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I was just given this beauty as a Christmas gift. I do not know much about this model- Zastava PAP M77PS imported by Century. It is .308 Win., has a very low serial number, came with two 10 round metal mags, and is angle cut with poly furniture. I just got it tonight and will try to get to the range this weekend. It feels and looks very well made.






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Link Posted: 12/28/2012 3:26:36 PM EST
Zastava has a very good rep. That's probably a damn fine rifle if it works.

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Link Posted: 12/29/2012 10:41:45 AM EST
Never heard of it. Looks nice though!

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Link Posted: 12/29/2012 10:45:51 AM EST
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I had no idea the .308 version was being imported now. Very cool. Break it down and take lots of pics of the bolt, carrier, trunnions, etc.
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Link Posted: 12/29/2012 5:17:15 PM EST
.308? I can only imagine what else they must have in the pipeline! They better start selling de-banned versions like the 7,62x39 PAP
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Link Posted: 12/30/2012 7:35:42 AM EST
I took the screw out of the pistol grip, but was unable to remove the stock. I tried to knock it rearward with a rubber mallet, but it would not budge. Any suggestions?
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Link Posted: 12/30/2012 7:44:14 AM EST
Thanks. Yugos have a screw at the rear trunnion for the attachment of the stock. Try removing the butt plate and you should see a bolt.
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Link Posted: 12/30/2012 7:46:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dferg10:
I took the screw out of the pistol grip, but was unable to remove the stock. I tried to knock it rearward with a rubber mallet, but it would not budge. Any suggestions?


8mm bolt that runs the length of the butt stock and threads into the rear of the receiver.
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Link Posted: 12/30/2012 7:55:35 AM EST
Hey Liquid...is that a slant cut receiver or is the stock simply covering up that part of the receiver. I know you know Yugos.
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Link Posted: 12/30/2012 8:19:20 AM EST
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Hey Liquid...is that a slant cut receiver or is the stock simply covering up that part of the receiver. I know you know Yugos.

Not sure, these .308s are brand new to the market. I'm betting it's slant cut like the early x39 PAPs were.
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Link Posted: 12/30/2012 8:33:43 AM EST
In response to my previous comment, Slap a wood PG and an M76 stock on there with some wood HGs and it would look sweet.
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Link Posted: 12/30/2012 8:47:46 AM EST
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I got the stock off. A small screwdriver through the tiny holes in the buttpad to remove it exposed the single screw from the back.


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Link Posted: 12/30/2012 9:15:14 AM EST
That is one odd looking rear. Plus, the way that pistol grip nut is riveted to the underside of the receiver is kind of silly imo.

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Link Posted: 12/30/2012 9:27:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dferg10:
I got the stock off. A small screwdriver through the tiny holes in the buttpad to remove it exposed the single screw from the back.

http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/Dferg10/645DD378-9781-4236-BCD1-D4B15FEC2357-1194-000001109E06607C.jpg

Exactly like the early x39 PAPs. Regular M70/M72/M76-type Yugo butt stocks will probably bolt right on, you just have the aesthetic issue of the slant cut to deal with.
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Link Posted: 12/30/2012 9:34:47 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HWI:
That is one odd looking rear. Plus, the way that pistol grip nut is riveted to the underside of the receiver is kind of silly imo.


That is how the Yugos do the pistol grip on all their rifles.

Too bad about the slant cut though.
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Link Posted: 12/30/2012 11:25:42 AM EST
I hope this means the 7.62x54r M91 copy is on the way too!

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Link Posted: 12/30/2012 12:26:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Liquidmetal:

Originally Posted By Dferg10:
I got the stock off. A small screwdriver through the tiny holes in the buttpad to remove it exposed the single screw from the back.

http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz66/Dferg10/645DD378-9781-4236-BCD1-D4B15FEC2357-1194-000001109E06607C.jpg

Exactly like the early x39 PAPs. Regular M70/M72/M76-type Yugo butt stocks will probably bolt right on, you just have the aesthetic issue of the slant cut to deal with.


I am going to try an IWD M76 stock. I will try to cut it down and sand it to fit the slant.

ETA: Now I have decided to go the other route. I am going to get an Ace Yugo block and weld the sides and bottom to make up for the slant cut and go withan Ace folder.

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Link Posted: 12/31/2012 10:19:57 AM EST
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That is one odd looking rear. Plus, the way that pistol grip nut is riveted to the underside of the receiver is kind of silly imo.


That is how the Yugos do the pistol grip on all their rifles.

Too bad about the slant cut though.


Didn't know that, never owned a Yugo.

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Link Posted: 1/9/2013 4:23:49 PM EST
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I added an ACE Yugo mounting block, which I will have welded to fill the slant cut gap, folding mechanism, and stock (1), plus other 922r compliance parts: Tapco G2 FCG/PG (4), and US muzzle nut (1).















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Link Posted: 1/10/2013 1:29:23 AM EST
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That thing would look damn good with some M76 furniture and a M95 flash hider.

Not really looking at picking up another rifle right now, but it does make me think about it.
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Very nice. I'd love to have one of those.

But I can't help but ponder modding one to take M-14 mags.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2013 3:44:51 PM EST
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Update on my Zastava M77: I cut the weld on the muzzle nut and finished the 922r compliance drill by adding a US made G2 FCG (3), a US made muzzle brake (1) (I also have a US muzzle nut and I have a US made M90 flash hider on the way- thanks to a response from a member in here to my EE WTB thread), US pistol grip (1), plus the US made ACE stock (1). I also scored 2 20 round mags that came in today. I hope to go to the range on Saturday. I really like this beast.










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Link Posted: 2/12/2013 4:15:51 PM EST
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Yes. Any advice would be welcomed. What do you suggest Liquidmetal- and any others....

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that's one beefy scope rail!

ETA:

I'm assuming a Tabuk stock would fit that nicely also. Looks like my plans for a .308 AK DMR may have changed a bit....

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Link Posted: 2/13/2013 1:36:30 AM EST

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Any plans for an optic of some sort?


Yes. Any advice would be welcomed. What do you suggest Liquidmetal- and any others....

You need to define your budget, preference (red dot or magnified scope), intended usage, stuff like that. Otherwise, we're only guessing...
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Link Posted: 2/13/2013 10:12:33 AM EST
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Any plans for an optic of some sort?


Yes. Any advice would be welcomed. What do you suggest Liquidmetal- and any others....

You need to define your budget, preference (red dot or magnified scope), intended usage, stuff like that. Otherwise, we're only guessing...


Budget is not a big issue, but I do not want to spend money needlessly. Primarily 100 to 200 yards. I presently have an EOTech and an Aimpoint PRO that I use on ARs.

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Link Posted: 2/13/2013 11:52:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Dferg10:
Originally Posted By Liquidmetal:
Any plans for an optic of some sort?


Yes. Any advice would be welcomed. What do you suggest Liquidmetal- and any others....

You need to define your budget, preference (red dot or magnified scope), intended usage, stuff like that. Otherwise, we're only guessing...


Budget is not a big issue, but I do not want to spend money needlessly. Primarily 100 to 200 yards. I presently have an EOTech and an Aimpoint PRO that I use on ARs.


what mount is compatible with that rail?
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Link Posted: 2/13/2013 1:11:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Dferg10:
Originally Posted By Liquidmetal:

Originally Posted By Dferg10:
Originally Posted By Liquidmetal:
Any plans for an optic of some sort?


Yes. Any advice would be welcomed. What do you suggest Liquidmetal- and any others....

You need to define your budget, preference (red dot or magnified scope), intended usage, stuff like that. Otherwise, we're only guessing...


Budget is not a big issue, but I do not want to spend money needlessly. Primarily 100 to 200 yards. I presently have an EOTech and an Aimpoint PRO that I use on ARs.


what mount is compatible with that rail?


That I do not know...


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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:

what mount is compatible with that rail?


Looks like it is primarily designed for forward stop svd style clamps as the Yugo scopes also use such. It looks like an ak clamp could also be used but it would sit way back. OP, a PSO/POSP (svd clamp) would be a good fit.

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Link Posted: 2/13/2013 1:47:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:

what mount is compatible with that rail?


Looks like it is primarily designed for forward stop svd style clamps as the Yugo scopes also use such. It looks like an ak clamp could also be used but it would sit way back. OP, a PSO/POSP (svd clamp) would be a good fit.


Excellent. Thank you. I will search for one. If you know of a good sourc let me know. Thanks again.

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Link Posted: 2/13/2013 2:10:46 PM EST
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Looks a lot like the factory rail on my x39 PAP. I use a SVD mount on that rifle.

If I was in your shoes, based on your intended usage, I would be looking hard at a 1-4x variable. Very good up close, very good further out. It will easily stretch out beyond 200 yards when you feel the need.

I just put a 1-3x variable on my FAL for use primarily from 50 to 400 yards.
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Link Posted: 2/13/2013 3:01:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Liquidmetal:
Looks a lot like the factory rail on my x39 PAP. I use a SVD mount on that rifle.

If I was in your shoes, based on your intended usage, I would be looking hard at a 1-4x variable. Very good up close, very good further out. It will easily stretch out beyond 200 yards when you feel the need.

I just put a 1-3x variable on my FAL for use primarily from 50 to 400 yards.


Thanks. Where is a good/reliabe place to get one- plus mount, plus FAL mount?

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OOOO I could see myself making a yugonov type rifle with this rifle.

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My US made M90/M95 flash hider came in:






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What type of magazines does it take? Do they seem to be good quality? Are any existing magazines able to be modified to fit?

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UPDATE:

I added an RS Products mount. It seems solid and is very light. It has an attachment for the Aimpoint T-1 Micro and a 30mm. I am still looking for a 1-4x scope. I put the Aimpoint on tonight and hope to go to the range Sunday.









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Should've went with the full-length RS base, you could have used it with both the Aimpoint and the 1-4x scope.

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Originally Posted By Liquidmetal:
Should've went with the full-length RS base, you could have used it with both the Aimpoint and the 1-4x scope.

http://s20.postimg.org/6jdzaje9p/Vepr_010.jpg


Very nice. I plan to get that one too and will also use this on an SLR 101s. They did a great job with this mount.

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