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Posted: 11/23/2015 5:29:21 PM EDT

trying to help a friend get back to shooting his ar-15 after major heart surgery last year we think he will be fine with it but just tying to be safer than sorry so what are the best mods to reduce recoil his is a s&w mp-15 with magpul furniter

thanks Todd

Posted: 11/23/2015 5:41:34 PM EDT

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A full size stock With a chunk of lead in the trapdoor would negate most recoil. I think midway or brownells sells the lead insert, and if that has a collapsible stock, he will need a new buffer tube/buffer/recoil spring.

Posted: 11/23/2015 5:56:21 PM EDT

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muzzle brake, light buffer

Posted: 11/23/2015 8:14:52 PM EDT

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Get with his surgeon for suggestions. Don't assume that he's all that fragile. A lot of times people are over-restricted after heart surgery. It's my profession to deal with this sort of thing; I'm an occupational therapist working in an inpatient rehab setting. People who have had heart surgery usually do just fine with any activity that doesn't cause pain. With that said, how long has it been since his surgery? He should have plenty of time to heal the incision, and he should have his doctor's OK before he hits the range.

Once you get all of that covered, the above suggestions are good ones. My father-in-law shot his Garand with a lead weight in its stock after multiple open heart procedures. Breaks will reduce felt recoil, but add blast and may be too harsh in that way, but adding weight to the stock and using a lighter buffer are both solid and non-obnoxious approaches.

Posted: 11/23/2015 8:27:59 PM EDT

[#4]

Add a rifle length receiver extension and replace the stock with something to accommodate it. Then add a Surefire MB556K muzzle brake. If you want to go even further, start looking at adjustable gas blocks and lightweight carriers.

Posted: 11/23/2015 8:29:38 PM EDT

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I like muzzle brakes myself, but some can honestly rattle your teeth even with ear plugs/muffs. You may want to consider a lead sled and some lightly loaded rounds. Reloads or even steel case wolf can have less recoil than anything milspec. Good luck and a speedy recover.

Posted: 11/23/2015 8:30:09 PM EDT

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trying to help a friend get back to shooting his ar-15 after major heart surgery last year we think he will be fine with it but just tying to be safer than sorry so what are the best mods to reduce recoil his is a s&w mp-15 with magpul furniter

thanks Todd

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I'd look at the J.P. Enterprises "Tank Brake"

Posted: 11/23/2015 8:33:50 PM EDT

[#7]

Pmc bronze and rifle length buffer system with weight in the stock. Maybe a muzzle device that can lighten the recoil a bit without being too obnoxious.

Posted: 11/23/2015 8:43:16 PM EDT

[#8]

A bit of time to let the sternum heal . I didn't ask my surgeon but was shooting the AR about 6 or 8 weeks after the surgery and I was shooting the AR with a rimfire conversion about 3 weeks after the surgery

A possible conflict could exist if your friend had a implanted pacemaker. Friend of mine wound up with one and the dickhead Dr put it right on the right shoulder . Can't shoulder a 10/22

Best wishes to your friend

Posted: 11/23/2015 9:03:41 PM EDT

[#9]

A .22lr kit would be a great start.

Posted: 11/24/2015 9:27:54 PM EDT

[#10]

Install an h2 buffer to reduce recoil. Helped on my s&w. Definitely shoots softer.

Posted: 11/25/2015 2:35:07 AM EDT

[#11]

what about using a recoil pad. The ones that you strap on your shoulder.

Posted: 11/25/2015 9:36:07 PM EDT

[#12]

Adding weight is easiest and cheapest. Get a .223 AR over 10 lbs and there is almost no recoil.

Posted: 11/25/2015 9:54:36 PM EDT

[#13]

I thought utilizing a heavy buffer mitigated felt recoil, and that you only use a light buffer along with a light carrier and AGB

Posted: 11/25/2015 9:58:46 PM EDT

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trying to help a friend get back to shooting his ar-15 after major heart surgery last year we think he will be fine with it but just tying to be safer than sorry so what are the best mods to reduce recoil his is a s&w mp-15 with magpul furniter

thanks Todd

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Try a Limbsaver Magpul recoil pad from limbsaver.com. $42.00 and it works well. Then try a VG6 Gamma muzzle brake or Precision Armament M4-72 muzzle brake. Then try Vltor A5 buffer tube system.

That should do the trick. If he needs more, it will get rather expensive quickly.

Good luck!

Posted: 11/25/2015 10:29:05 PM EDT

[#15]

If money is not an option, how about a suppressor.

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:07:25 PM EDT

[#16]

Lightweight bcg, adjustable gas block and supressor.

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:22:18 PM EDT

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trying to help a friend get back to shooting his ar-15 after major heart surgery last year we think he will be fine with it but just tying to be safer than sorry so what are the best mods to reduce recoil his is a s&w mp-15 with magpul furniter

thanks Todd

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Lighter bullets, lighter powder charges, heavier rifle, muzzle break or suppressor. Mix and match as you please.

As an example, going to Fiochhi's loads with 40 grain v-max bullets would reduce the recoil by about 20%. Adding two pounds to the rifle would shave another 20-25%, with both, you'd have just over half of the recoil of M193 and the lighter rifle. Throw on a brake, and you're really in business.

Posted: 11/26/2015 11:16:27 AM EDT

[#18]

thanks for all the help we ordered a dpms miculek comp to start there he already has a mp-22 he has shot it ok

Posted: 11/26/2015 11:36:13 PM EDT

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/271776386471?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

Friend had two of these put in the stock of a 1917 Eddystone .30-06 that he sporterized. I have an identical 1917. The one with the two mercury filled recoil reducers definitely has less felt recoil.

If I were looking to reduce felt recoil, I'd get two or three of these and put them in flashlight mounts on a cheap 4 rail clamp on quad rail. Then as he's able to handle more recoil take one off. Kind of pricey but so is open heart surgery...

Of course, you could just put 1" steel rod in the flashlight mount. Anything that increases the mass of the rifle will help with recoil.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Dia-x-9-Long-17-4-Stainless-Steel-Rod-Round-Bar-FREE-SHIP-/281738502022?hash=item4198ec5f86:g:JwMAAOSw~gRVmyUF

Posted: 11/26/2015 11:50:54 PM EDT

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Posted: 11/27/2015 8:15:57 AM EDT

[#21]

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I thought utilizing a heavy buffer mitigated felt recoil, and that you only use a light buffer along with a light carrier and AGB

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Felt recoil and recoil are two different things. Adding moving mass will always add more recoil, simple physics.

Adding more moving mass can "smooth" the recoil out into more of a pulse than a smack but the actual amount of recoil is greater.

Adding more stationary mass (gun weight) will counter/absorb the recoil, again simple physics.

Posted: 11/27/2015 10:50:57 AM EDT

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Widener's has the 22 conversions on sale 22lr conversion
They have several different one there all for the same price

Posted: 11/29/2015 4:54:35 PM EDT

[#23]

Lightweight bcg, adjustable gas block and suppressor <this

Posted: 11/29/2015 5:02:11 PM EDT

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A .22lr kit would be a great start.

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He's not wrong...

Posted: 11/29/2015 5:06:24 PM EDT

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If money is not an option, how about a suppressor.

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this

Posted: 11/29/2015 5:57:46 PM EDT

[#26]

H2 buffer, muzzle break, and Magpul's extra thick recoil pad.

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