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Nice how to. The M60 bipod is a good, strong design, better than the gun itself IMHO. While my idea of a bipod on the AR platform is either a Harris or a grip-pod, that still looks sexy though.
I honestly think you should invest in purchasing a Lightning Link, and get rid of that stock. |
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Tagged for home where I can see the pictures. I'll be using an M5 RAS on my build, so i probably won't use an M60 bipod, but i still want to see it.
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Quoted: Nice how to. The M60 bipod is a good, strong design, better than the gun itself IMHO. While my idea of a bipod on the AR platform is either a Harris or a grip-pod, that still looks sexy though. I honestly think you should invest in purchasing a Lightning Link, and get rid of that stock. I think MG's aren't allowed in WA. Besides, its cheap and works. |
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Yep, no MGs in Washington.
Plus, there was an aspect of challenge that I liked about the prone bumpfire stock concept. Could it be made to be accurate and practical? I think so. I am still sort of testing it, and it may take a bit to update considering ammo prices. |
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Well I thought the bumpfire thingy was kinda dumb until I watched your video....Outstanding! That thing was rocking! And it looks really good.
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Well I thought the bumpfire thingy was kinda dumb until I watched your video....Outstanding! That thing was rocking! And it looks really good. Thanks! Posts like this right here is why I even bothered with a gun like this! Not that I am the only one, but I just saw more potential in these things than others. Perhaps it's because I wanted my own SAW after my time in the USMC and knew this was as close as I was ever getting... |
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Is the limitation on rotation/cant due to the rear step contacting the gas block? Personally, I'd whack them suckers off just to prevent that contact (if that's the case).
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Is the limitation on rotation/cant due to the rear step contacting the gas block? Personally, I'd whack them suckers off just to prevent that contact (if that's the case). Interesting suggestion. Do you think having that much cant would be a good thing? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Is the limitation on rotation/cant due to the rear step contacting the gas block? Personally, I'd whack them suckers off just to prevent that contact (if that's the case). Interesting suggestion. Do you think having that much cant would be a good thing? For me it wouldn't be necessary to have more can't, I just wouldn't want anything there to possibly rotate the gas block (granted that would take a bit of force). Then again you'd have a freely rotating bipod (for the most part it appears), which might be an issue in itself. |
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Is the limitation on rotation/cant due to the rear step contacting the gas block? Personally, I'd whack them suckers off just to prevent that contact (if that's the case). Interesting suggestion. Do you think having that much cant would be a good thing? For me it wouldn't be necessary to have more can't, I just wouldn't want anything there to possibly rotate the gas block (granted that would take a bit of force). Then again you'd have a freely rotating bipod (for the most part it appears), which might be an issue in itself. I am starting to think you are on to something. More cant would be good on awkward slopes. Luckily the gas block is really only a front sight in this case. It's a carbine gas system. |
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Everytime I see your mod, I can't help but see this: http://25.media.tumblr.com/03e6dc8b4f6f4a131b75ef08bdf1e298/tumblr_mo3oite5gn1r9khx4o1_1280.jpg If I'm ever to go down the retro route, It will be the M16A1 with the M60 bipod. Yeah, I saw a few of those and was inspired by them to go forth with this project. At first, I had a handmade bipod. It was pretty cool, but sort of flimsy... |
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Glad to see this thread!! Thanks! Hope to see your bipod mock up soon. |
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Nice. I bet your barrel was hot as hell. Yeah.... it was smoking a bit. The day that video was taken, the temps were right around freezing with moments of horizontal rain. After that video was taken I held onto the handguards for warmth. Felt GOOOOOOOOD! |
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Thanks to all who have posted! Hope to at least see one other gun like this (with the M60 bipod and bump fire stock) someday.
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Thanks to all who have posted! Hope to at least see one other gun like this (with the M60 bipod and bump fire stock) someday. my next build is a ar in 308 for long range shooting. I might just get a m60 bipod and figure out a way to attach it. |
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After looking at the Parker-Hale bipod mount, it looks like you could mod it to use the M16 bipod with.
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Thanks to all who have posted! Hope to at least see one other gun like this (with the M60 bipod and bump fire stock) someday. my next build is a ar in 308 for long range shooting. I might just get a m60 bipod and figure out a way to attach it. |
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After looking at the Parker-Hale bipod mount, it looks like you could mod it to use the M16 bipod with.
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Thanks to all who have posted! Hope to at least see one other gun like this (with the M60 bipod and bump fire stock) someday. my next build is a ar in 308 for long range shooting. I might just get a m60 bipod and figure out a way to attach it. I'd love to have gotten a proper mount, but I didn't want to have my barrel taken in to be turned down to .625" at the end. I figured this way was actually cheaper, and will work when I finally need to swap the barrel out. This is also an option for those that like to tinker. Here is an archived thread by catmantim about it. Bayonet lug bipod |
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After looking at the Parker-Hale bipod mount, it looks like you could mod it to use the M16 bipod with.
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Thanks to all who have posted! Hope to at least see one other gun like this (with the M60 bipod and bump fire stock) someday. my next build is a ar in 308 for long range shooting. I might just get a m60 bipod and figure out a way to attach it. I'd love to have gotten a proper mount, but I didn't want to have my barrel taken in to be turned down to .625" at the end. I figured this way was actually cheaper, and will work when I finally need to swap the barrel out. This is also an option for those that like to tinker. Here is an archived thread by catmantim about it. Bayonet lug bipod http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff421/rodgravy1976/100_1514.jpg I had meant to say the M-60 bipod. |
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I had meant to say the M-60 bipod. I figured. I guess the only thing I can even think of that would be an "M16" bipod would be one of these! http://www.mooremilitaria.com/M16%20Bipod%20&%20Case.JPG |
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I had meant to say the M-60 bipod. I figured. I guess the only thing I can even think of that would be an "M16" bipod would be one of these! http://www.mooremilitaria.com/M16%20Bipod%20&%20Case.JPG Yeah, not as aesthetically pleasing as the M60 bipods, but way easier to get to mount... |
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I had meant to say the M-60 bipod. I figured. I guess the only thing I can even think of that would be an "M16" bipod would be one of these! http://www.mooremilitaria.com/M16%20Bipod%20&%20Case.JPG Hey now! Those will work, if you have an M4 profile barrel (shown on my dedicated .22 upper). http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc68/gunnyg_photos/Private/AR15/DSC07617.jpg Holy cow... That is the first time I have ever seen the M203 cut barrel be useful! |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I had meant to say the M-60 bipod. I figured. I guess the only thing I can even think of that would be an "M16" bipod would be one of these! http://www.mooremilitaria.com/M16%20Bipod%20&%20Case.JPG Hey now! Those will work, if you have an M4 profile barrel (shown on my dedicated .22 upper). http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc68/gunnyg_photos/Private/AR15/DSC07617.jpg Holy cow... That is the first time I have ever seen the M203 cut barrel be useful! .. not that I have ever actually felt the desire to use it. I have much better options that involve free floated picatinny rails, or at least a HSGI shooting rest/fannypack that won't change the barrel's point of impact. |
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Your video makes me want to give one of those Slide Fire stocks a go, but the price kicks me in the nuts every time I do a search for one.
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Your video makes me want to give one of those Slide Fire stocks a go, but the price kicks me in the nuts every time I do a search for one. If you are going to do it, I suggest the Fostech route. I got my SF stock used for a decent price, but WISH I had saved up the money for the better, more high-quality one. |
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cool I have an old heavy barrel that I have thought about modding to work with an FAL bipod,this thread makes me want to do it
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cool I have an old heavy barrel that I have thought about modding to work with an FAL bipod,this thread makes me want to do it That sound's like a good project! I considered a FAL bipod as well. Please post pics if/when you do it. Found this on google: How to add a FAL bipod to your PSL. Seems like that could be a pretty good option for someone wanting to make something that functions similar to my gun. I just love the look of the M60 bipods. |
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First OP, awesome thread and thanks for the link. I went out yesterday and bought a Slidefire stock and 2 60 Surefire mags because of it.
It's might be a dumb question,but does the bipod make it difficult to use the Slidefire when you use your off hand to pull forward on the gun? |
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Quoted: Exactly.Quoted: Nice how to. The M60 bipod is a good, strong design, better than the gun itself IMHO. While my idea of a bipod on the AR platform is either a Harris or a grip-pod, that still looks sexy though. I honestly think you should invest in purchasing a Lightning Link, and get rid of that stock. I think MG's aren't allowed in WA. Besides, its cheap and works. Plus, it's non-NFA, no stamp or waiting, and for the price of a lightning link, you can buy a SHIT TON of ammo and get good with the slidefire. |
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First OP, awesome thread and thanks for the link. I went out yesterday and bought a Slidefire stock and 2 60 Surefire mags because of it. It's might be a dumb question,but does the bipod make it difficult to use the Slidefire when you use your off hand to pull forward on the gun? Not at all! I actually grip the rear of the gun back behind the charging handle and push forward. It's a very natural grip position from bipod-supported prone. Once you get a set of bipods mounted, try it out for yourself. You will see what I mean. Not sure why this screen cap is so blurry, but you get the idea. http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/schkoot/Screenshot_2013-06-30-23-56-13_zps7b03e277.png I'm going with M249 training/experience here myself. That is not a natural position for firing that rifle. But it's muscle memory that keeps you using it that way. |
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First OP, awesome thread and thanks for the link. I went out yesterday and bought a Slidefire stock and 2 60 Surefire mags because of it. It's might be a dumb question,but does the bipod make it difficult to use the Slidefire when you use your off hand to pull forward on the gun? Not at all! I actually grip the rear of the gun back behind the charging handle and push forward. It's a very natural grip position from bipod-supported prone. Once you get a set of bipods mounted, try it out for yourself. You will see what I mean. Not sure why this screen cap is so blurry, but you get the idea. http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/schkoot/Screenshot_2013-06-30-23-56-13_zps7b03e277.png I'm going with M249 training/experience here myself. That is not a natural position for firing that rifle. But it's muscle memory that keeps you using it that way. That is a good point. I learned that grip from shooting the SAW. I never had an AR with a bipod before that, so I can't say what I would have done prior. I will say this. It's an easy grip to get the forward pressure needed to bump AND to control the aim. I would say the only drawback is the eye-relief issues with the optic. I got it as a cheap-o experiment, so I may graduate to a better optic with longer eye relief at a later point. Right now, any money that goes to guns will be spent on ammo or better mags. My old PMAGs may have been causing some stops in the gun this week. That and under-powered, uncrimped ammo. |
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Hey, if it works for the bumpfire, why not? FA or in your case, bumping is an area fired weapon, so may I suggest a scout optice, or a CQO?
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First OP, awesome thread and thanks for the link. I went out yesterday and bought a Slidefire stock and 2 60 Surefire mags because of it. It's might be a dumb question,but does the bipod make it difficult to use the Slidefire when you use your off hand to pull forward on the gun? Not at all! I actually grip the rear of the gun back behind the charging handle and push forward. It's a very natural grip position from bipod-supported prone. Once you get a set of bipods mounted, try it out for yourself. You will see what I mean. Not sure why this screen cap is so blurry, but you get the idea. http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/schkoot/Screenshot_2013-06-30-23-56-13_zps7b03e277.png I'm going with M249 training/experience here myself. That is not a natural position for firing that rifle. But it's muscle memory that keeps you using it that way. That is a good point. I learned that grip from shooting the SAW. I never had an AR with a bipod before that, so I can't say what I would have done prior. I will say this. It's an easy grip to get the forward pressure needed to bump AND to control the aim. I would say the only drawback is the eye-relief issues with the optic. I got it as a cheap-o experiment, so I may graduate to a better optic with longer eye relief at a later point. Right now, any money that goes to guns will be spent on ammo or better mags. My old PMAGs may have been causing some stops in the gun this week. That and under-powered, uncrimped ammo. As for the positioning, since AIT with the M-60, to the M-249, and the M-240, I've always shot that way from the prone or prone supported as in standing up in a hole/ditch/window/wall. But I've also been issued the M16 amd M4 too, both with an M203. It just boils down to what systems you're used and are used to and knowing blindfolded where to place everything and where anything is. I want an M1A, not practical, so I built an LR308 because I already know , am trained, and been to war with it so I know six ways from Sundays with how the AR system works. Oh, I saw some steel cased on Cabella's in .223 for $6 a pop of 20. Timegonow. |
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Hey, if it works for the bumpfire, why not? FA or in your case, bumping is an area fired weapon, so may I suggest a scout optice, or a CQO? As for the positioning, since AIT with the M-60, to the M-249, and the M-240, I've always shot that way from the prone or prone supported as in standing up in a hole/ditch/window/wall. But I've also been issued the M16 amd M4 too, both with an M203. It just boils down to what systems you've used and are used to and knowing blindfolded where to place everything and where anything is. I want an M1A, not practical, so I built an LR308 because I already know and trained how the AR system works. Oh, I saw some steel cased on Cabella's in .223 for $6 a pop of 20. Timegonow. Yeah, the "point target" stuff about the SAW is really something I can't quite understand. I suppose it does OK, but it's always really a cone of fire. Madcap can attest, this gun does remarkably well in the accuracy department. I was actually traversing the gun a bit and the groups looked like a horizontal jagged line. Not bad for bumpfire! About the Steel case, I prefer it for now. I don't like running expensive 92 octane gas through this thing considering what it is/does. I will need to swap the barrel soon anyway, so steel it is! |
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Any interest in a adapter that would screw onto the end of the gun and allow for a m60 bipod? Similar to the one below? http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/jntmjt1/1008072753_4wugz-L.jpg Yeah, I would love one! |
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Ill see what i can come up with. Are those adapters the ones that need the barrel to be .625"? I would like one just on principal, but I do like the way I mounted mine. |
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