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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:01:53 PM
Billets on rainier
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So since joe bob had 100 pissed off emails about stock, now they will have 150 more for not putting in stock. Whatever. Like you said, it's your right to sell your stuff how you want, but you can see how people would be mad since they are signed up for your email alerts and patiently waiting on that lower when you have them in stock and are posting them in stock. Noone said you had to leave the price the same on your website. Who is to say you don't have everything in stock right now and just not selling any of it or letting anyone know because you would rather sell it on gunbroker to make more money. Why can't you post them on your site for market value. Why post them on gun broker in lots of 5. You think more people would buy 5 and not resell the other 4 they don't want. You think they sell better in groups of 5 for 1000 bucks or single for 400 each. It's not at all about economics, it's common sense at this point. It don't take someone with a business degree to know how supply and demand works.
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:03:59 PM
Originally Posted By dispr:
rainiers has north tech defense billets back in stock- only 21 though
http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3455


Down to 18...
Ratko
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:05:50 PM
Originally Posted By BROK3N-AR:
So since joe bob had 100 pissed off emails about stock, now they will have 150 more for not putting in stock. Whatever. Like you said, it's your right to sell your stuff how you want, but you can see how people would be mad since they are signed up for your email alerts and patiently waiting on that lower when you have them in stock and are posting them in stock. Noone said you had to leave the price the same on your website. Who is to say you don't have everything in stock right now and just not selling any of it or letting anyone know because you would rather sell it on gunbroker to make more money. Why can't you post them on your site for market value. Why post them on gun broker in lots of 5. You think more people would buy 5 and not resell the other 4 they don't want. You think they sell better in groups of 5 for 1000 bucks or single for 400 each. It's not at all about economics, it's common sense at this point. It don't take someone with a business degree to know how supply and demand works.


He should hand pick the 15 of us on here begging for them, spending hour after hour looking for just one...just one to build.

I don't want to flip anything, not a damn thing!
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:10:48 PM
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I almost bought one. It would have been over $240 after tax, shipping, and the $30 my local FFL wants to receive it


where are you located. i found a guy in plano that is 20. 10 for CHL holders, active military/police/fire/schoolteachers


My guy is 15 bucks for chl holders in Arlington. That's per visit, not per gun.

But since this is the lower thread, I just received my shipping information for the $43 ATI omni sale that everybody was getting the run around with. I started to cancel my order. But now I'm glad I didn't as these are cheap enough to hold on to for oh shit purposes and not feel bad about it.
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:13:03 PM

Originally Posted By zans0n:
Originally Posted By dispr:
rainiers has north tech defense billets back in stock- only 21 though
http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3455


Down to 18...
I dropped two back out of my cart after deciding against it... sign of the times with them staying in stock for so long I'd say.

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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:14:16 PM
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My guy is 15 bucks for chl holders in Arlington. That's per visit, not per gun.

Where/who?
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:14:38 PM
Originally Posted By Ratko:
Originally Posted By BROK3N-AR:
So since joe bob had 100 pissed off emails about stock, now they will have 150 more for not putting in stock. Whatever. Like you said, it's your right to sell your stuff how you want, but you can see how people would be mad since they are signed up for your email alerts and patiently waiting on that lower when you have them in stock and are posting them in stock. Noone said you had to leave the price the same on your website. Who is to say you don't have everything in stock right now and just not selling any of it or letting anyone know because you would rather sell it on gunbroker to make more money. Why can't you post them on your site for market value. Why post them on gun broker in lots of 5. You think more people would buy 5 and not resell the other 4 they don't want. You think they sell better in groups of 5 for 1000 bucks or single for 400 each. It's not at all about economics, it's common sense at this point. It don't take someone with a business degree to know how supply and demand works.


He should hand pick the 15 of us on here begging for them, spending hour after hour looking for just one...just one to build.

I don't want to flip anything, not a damn thing!


That is an excellent suggestion. If a dealer did just a small number of sales that way, imagine the positive feedback they would get.

"I saw on ARFCOM you have been looking for a <brand> lower for the last several days/weeks. We at <dealer> just received a shipment and I would like to offer you first crack at an order. We will be sending out our in stock notifications in 15 minutes, so respond immediately if you are interested."
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:14:55 PM
Originally Posted By EightySecond:

Originally Posted By zans0n:
Originally Posted By dispr:
rainiers has north tech defense billets back in stock- only 21 though
http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3455


Down to 18...
I dropped two back out of my cart after deciding against it... sign of the times with them staying in stock for so long I'd say.



Are you sure? 4/5 still left...
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:15:43 PM
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Originally Posted By BROK3N-AR:
So since joe bob had 100 pissed off emails about stock, now they will have 150 more for not putting in stock. Whatever. Like you said, it's your right to sell your stuff how you want, but you can see how people would be mad since they are signed up for your email alerts and patiently waiting on that lower when you have them in stock and are posting them in stock. Noone said you had to leave the price the same on your website. Who is to say you don't have everything in stock right now and just not selling any of it or letting anyone know because you would rather sell it on gunbroker to make more money. Why can't you post them on your site for market value. Why post them on gun broker in lots of 5. You think more people would buy 5 and not resell the other 4 they don't want. You think they sell better in groups of 5 for 1000 bucks or single for 400 each. It's not at all about economics, it's common sense at this point. It don't take someone with a business degree to know how supply and demand works.


We move millions and million of dollars a year in inventory, and we have employees to feed and overhead to pay for. Why would we sit on "everything"? We would sell it now while the iron is hot, like any intelligent business would do.

You are stating "Market Value" as being MSRP? You are incorrect. Sometimes market value is higher, and sometimes it is lower than MSRP.

Guys that buy 5 at "Market Value" on an auction site have less profit margin to flip them at, so your argument is invalid there. Only guys who want 5 lowers, will buy 5 lowers, at "Market" price (not MSRP).

You don't quite have a grasp on market conditions, or supply and demand, and obviously have never been a business owner. I appreciate your insight...



This may help a little. However, the firearms industry in general is pretty inelastic, especially now, even as prices increase.

So, since demand is skyrocketed, and supplies are very low...guess where "Market" price is?

Originally Posted By ITZOFFICIAL:

That is an excellent suggestion. If a dealer did just a small number of sales that way, imagine the positive feedback they would get.

"I saw on ARFCOM you have been looking for a <brand> lower for the last several days/weeks. We at <dealer> just received a shipment and I would like to offer you first crack at an order. We will be sending out our in stock notifications in 15 minutes, so respond immediately if you are interested."


The only guys that benefits are the guys who get hand picked. That's not "fair", really, and would cause more ticked off customers than not. What about guys who asked about it a week before, or a month before, or.....
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:16:06 PM
Just Grabbed a northtech from rainier. Thanks
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:17:00 PM
Originally Posted By Ratko:
Originally Posted By EightySecond:

Originally Posted By zans0n:
Originally Posted By dispr:
rainiers has north tech defense billets back in stock- only 21 though
http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3455


Down to 18...
I dropped two back out of my cart after deciding against it... sign of the times with them staying in stock for so long I'd say.



Are you sure? 4/5 still left...


Every time they come in stock somewhere and it's posted here the herd gets thinned. A month from now and they'll last for a matter of hours, and so on. Thanks for buying guys
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:17:49 PM
Originally Posted By Ratko:
Originally Posted By EightySecond:
Originally Posted By zans0n:
Originally Posted By dispr:
rainiers has north tech defense billets back in stock- only 21 though
http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3455

Down to 18...
I dropped two back out of my cart after deciding against it... sign of the times with them staying in stock for so long I'd say.

Are you sure? 4/5 still left...

I agree w/ him. The 21 Nortechs have stayed in stock almost as long as the 150 Seekins forged lowers did. Granted, they are billets from Nortech and not Mega, Vltor, etc. I'll hold off until Megas are back in stock.
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:18:16 PM
Originally Posted By aemery214:
Originally Posted By The_Hammer:
I almost bought one. It would have been over $240 after tax, shipping, and the $30 my local FFL wants to receive it


where are you located. i found a guy in plano that is 20. 10 for CHL holders, active military/police/fire/schoolteachers


Tom??
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:18:36 PM
I hate you guys. Just dropped another $220 on that billet lower from Rainier.

But its going to make a sweet foundation for a 300 blackout!
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:21:24 PM
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Your very welcome.


THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!! SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:21:40 PM
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I hate you guys. Just dropped another $220 on that billet lower from Rainier.

But its going to make a sweet foundation for a 300 blackout!


It's all fun and games until the credit card bill shows up in the mail

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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:22:06 PM
Rainier billets OOS
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:22:50 PM
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Originally Posted By shabazz18:
My guy is 15 bucks for chl holders in Arlington. That's per visit, not per gun.

Where/who?


Give DFW Shoots a call. He's in Grand Prairie and has just about the best FFL transfer pricing around the area. Plus he's good people!
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:30:14 PM
Originally Posted By aklogan:
Just Grabbed a northtech from rainier. Thanks


I check the Ranier site frequently to see, and just happened to notice the Northtech. I picked one up because they have been available for $299 at Blackwater Tactical (or $850 FTF locally on another board ), but that was a bit too much for me to justify spending. I decided to get it at less than $230 delivered. I now see I got one of the last ones because it's out of stock again. They look pretty nice, but is much known about them?
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:31:12 PM
Stripped Rock River Lowers at PK Firearms...Unless I'm seeing something wrong

RR Lowers
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:31:58 PM
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Originally Posted By BROK3N-AR:
So since joe bob had 100 pissed off emails about stock, now they will have 150 more for not putting in stock. Whatever. Like you said, it's your right to sell your stuff how you want, but you can see how people would be mad since they are signed up for your email alerts and patiently waiting on that lower when you have them in stock and are posting them in stock. Noone said you had to leave the price the same on your website. Who is to say you don't have everything in stock right now and just not selling any of it or letting anyone know because you would rather sell it on gunbroker to make more money. Why can't you post them on your site for market value. Why post them on gun broker in lots of 5. You think more people would buy 5 and not resell the other 4 they don't want. You think they sell better in groups of 5 for 1000 bucks or single for 400 each. It's not at all about economics, it's common sense at this point. It don't take someone with a business degree to know how supply and demand works.


We move millions and million of dollars a year in inventory, and we have employees to feed and overhead to pay for. Why would we sit on "everything"? We would sell it now while the iron is hot, like any intelligent business would do.

You are stating "Market Value" as being MSRP? You are incorrect. Sometimes market value is higher, and sometimes it is lower than MSRP.

Guys that buy 5 at "Market Value" on an auction site have less profit margin to flip them at, so your argument is invalid there. Only guys who want 5 lowers, will buy 5 lowers, at "Market" price (not MSRP).

You don't quite have a grasp on market conditions, or supply and demand, and obviously have never been a business owner. I appreciate your insight...

http://stephansmithfx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Supply-and-Demand-Graph.png

This may help a little. However, the firearms industry in general is pretty inelastic, especially now, even as prices increase.

So, since demand is skyrocketed, and supplies are very low...guess where "Market" price is?

Originally Posted By ITZOFFICIAL:

That is an excellent suggestion. If a dealer did just a small number of sales that way, imagine the positive feedback they would get.

"I saw on ARFCOM you have been looking for a <brand> lower for the last several days/weeks. We at <dealer> just received a shipment and I would like to offer you first crack at an order. We will be sending out our in stock notifications in 15 minutes, so respond immediately if you are interested."


The only guys that benefits are the guys who get hand picked. That's not "fair", really, and would cause more ticked off customers than not. What about guys who asked about it a week before, or a month before, or.....


Dude no one said anything about Msrp. I am just giving an example of everything. There is less of a market for an auction of 5 lowers then there is for an auction of one lower. Once those auctions end, divide them by 5 and see if that equals market value right now. Those lowers are selling on GB for about 350-400 each and I bet you don't get that for each of them on the auctions you have up there. So your argument is shit, you might want to go back to school and learn a little more if you don't see that. As far as being fair is putting these on your website and letting everyone have a chance at "1" lower. If they didnt get one, then that's fine but it was fair. Your email notifications are shit anyways because they only come 2 hours after the item is sold out anyways. How's that for fair. Sure mark them up a little then what you have them for already on your site. That's fine. I would have still bought one from you before I knew how you do business.
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:32:35 PM
Originally Posted By dispr:
rainiers has north tech defense billets back in stock- only 21 though
http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3455


Originally Posted By Jason121580:
Forged Seekins in-stock at Primary

https://www.primaryarms.com/Seekins_Precision_SP15_Forged_Lower_p/sp15.htm


Wow 2 lowers this morning. Thanks guys

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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:37:03 PM
Originally Posted By JoeBob1901:
snip....


You aren't really helping us find our Unicorns. You don't need to come here and make excuses.

Most of us understand how this all works. The thread is here to help facilitate finding equipment.

Someone posted that certain product wasn't available for purchase from your website that you were instead using another venue to move product.

Those of us who were checking for certain products at JoeBobs can stop for now.

If you have any information relevant to our needs, such as when you'll stop moving certain product on Gunbroker and start using your web page again, that would be great.

If you have other product relevant to our needs, by all means post it on your Facebook and you'll see it pop up here in minutes if not seconds.

You can really stop with the economics lessons, they aren't doing anyone any good right now.
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Posted: 2/8/2013 12:39:50 PM
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I just received a broken NFA complete lower from www.riflegear.com that I ordered on Jan 30th. Guess where it is broken. I'm taking pics to upload now. I didn't realize that the trigger assembly, safety and rest of the lower parts are polymer too. I thought for sure they were going to be milspec.
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