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Posted: 1/16/2012 10:25:13 AM EST
I recieved an AAC shirt as a present a few weeks ago. I put it on, and realized that the picture is two crossed ARs with what looks like ACR folding stocks. Do these exists for AR15s? I searched and couldn't find anything.
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Posted: 1/16/2012 11:32:32 AM EST
Simple answer is yes and no. You cannot put a folding stock on an AR without modification since thats where the bolt carrier rides back into. But it has been done, check out the Para Ord TTR and the newer Rock River LAR PDS, I think thats what its called. There have been plenty of threads out there, just search around on google if you can't find anything here.
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Posted: 1/16/2012 1:50:25 PM EST
Rare and relatively expensive, but they do exist - the two mentioned above, plus the Olympic Arms OA-93 uppers.



And the quite expensive and apparently really hard to actually get ZM Weapons LR-300

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Posted: 1/16/2012 1:56:34 PM EST
Didn't you forget the best of all?
The beautiful Sig. 556.

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Posted: 1/16/2012 2:01:48 PM EST
Originally Posted By eightring:
Didn't you forget the best of all?
The beautiful Sig. 556.

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQnCx5DGaPepXlMfBVkZSIyy92nd367A3­AsrSEOD3U5Axu0VAhEjg


How is that an AR at all?

It's a fancy AK.
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Posted: 1/16/2012 2:07:32 PM EST
Originally Posted By Circuits:
Rare and relatively expensive, but they do exist - the two mentioned above, plus the Olympic Arms OA-93 uppers.

http://olyarms.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/ar15-pistols%2Ffull-oa-93.jpg

And the quite expensive and apparently really hard to actually get ZM Weapons LR-300

http://www.enemyforces.net/firearms/lr300_2.jpg


The Para is the Z-M. Z-M sold them their design.
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Posted: 1/16/2012 2:42:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By eightring:
Didn't you forget the best of all?
The beautiful Sig. 556.

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQnCx5DGaPepXlMfBVkZSIyy92nd367A3­AsrSEOD3U5Axu0VAhEjg


How is that an AR at all?

It's a fancy AK.


Good point.

I suppose that any "AR" with a folding stock isn't really an AR.

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Posted: 1/16/2012 3:07:00 PM EST
If it's the AAC XGuns Side Tee then those are what appear to be ACRs & not ARs.
I think it takes a particular coward to criticize procedures that you don't understand; particularly when they apply to places that you don't have the bravery to go.



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Posted: 1/16/2012 3:17:42 PM EST
Originally Posted By eightring:
Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
Originally Posted By eightring:
Didn't you forget the best of all?
The beautiful Sig. 556.

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQnCx5DGaPepXlMfBVkZSIyy92nd367A3­AsrSEOD3U5Axu0VAhEjg


How is that an AR at all?

It's a fancy AK.


Good point.

I suppose that any "AR" with a folding stock isn't really an AR.



No, the other guns mentioned, like the RRA PDS and Z-M/Para, those are still ARs, modified, but still ARs. The Sig 556 isn't even remotely an AR.
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Posted: 1/16/2012 8:17:29 PM EST
Originally Posted By eightring:
Good point.

I suppose that any "AR" with a folding stock isn't really an AR.



All three systems listed; Z-M/Para, RRA and Olympic, can be purchased as uppers-only, and will drop on to any AR lower. That makes them ARs.
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