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Posted: 3/8/2023 1:30:10 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fmkenner: Would this light be bright enough to shine a field? I was looking at a Nitecore P23i and a Fenix TK22 tac flashlights. I was looking for a strong light with good throw. We have varmints here and would be nice to see a large field. Does it come with a qd mount and pressure switch I could mount to a rail? My REIN 3.0 head performs better than those using a 18350 battery. I can easily see my neighbor’s backyard at longer distances. As for mounts and pressure switch, those answers could have easily found by checking out Cloud’s website in less time than it took for you to post. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/8/2023 1:36:24 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Claytonhoneyberry: My REIN 3.0 head performs better than those using a 18350 battery. I can easily see my neighbor’s backyard at longer distances. As for mounts and pressure switch, those answers could have easily found by checking out Cloud’s website in less time than it took for you to post. I was asking about the Rein 3. Was looking at the other two and came across this thread. And I know it comes with mount and pressure switch, wasn't sure if it was a qd, and wasn't sure if the pressure switch came with rail mount. So in your opinion I would be better served with the Rein. |
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Posted: 3/8/2023 1:55:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Claytonhoneyberry: Did you try adjusting the battery jack inside? Sounds more like user error than product error. ETA: Alright. Found a video. That would have been nice to know if they still included owner’s manuals. The video says it’s finger adjustable. Mine won’t even turn either direction with a fat screw driver. Any advice here? ETA2: Got it to move and only a thread or two before tight. Still a no go and it didn’t shake either way. If I tap the constant on tape switch button not hard enough to depress it will turn on for a split second. None of the other switches function at all. She dead. Love my OWL but 90% chance I dump this and go with a Moodlite. The owner may be a character on social media but at least they have their shit in order. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/9/2023 2:42:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: colt-fan]
[#4]
I would just reach out to cloud. They have the best cs and will either walk you through the fix or replace it.
Just in case you haven't. Make sure to remove the battery first. Then back battery jack all the way out. Then make finger tight with battery in. |
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Posted: 3/9/2023 3:38:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colt-fan: I would just reach out to cloud. They have the best cs and will either walk you through the fix or replace it. Just in case you haven't. Make sure to remove the battery first. Then back battery jack all the way out. Then make finger tight with battery in. Yep I did. Got a high volume notification from them saying they need extra time to rectify it. Messed with the battery jack with both 18650’s and CR123’s. No dice at any tightness level for either. Hoping it’s just the switch (and it seems to be) as I saw someone else got a bad head and Cloud has to have the light sent in at that point. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/9/2023 3:55:11 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Yep I did. Got a high volume notification from them saying they need extra time to rectify it. Messed with the battery jack with both 18650’s and CR123’s. No dice at any tightness level for either. Hoping it’s just the switch (and it seems to be) as I saw someone else got a bad head and Cloud has to have the light sent in at that point. I hope it isn't a problem for all of them. I'm kinda want to get one. I don't have any weapon lights except for my ir light. |
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Posted: 3/9/2023 4:25:00 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fmkenner: I hope it isn't a problem for all of them. I'm kinda want to get one. I don't have any weapon lights except for my ir light. I have no doubt they’ll make it right. I was pretty upset at first because it ruined my plans for this weekend. But life happens. My only actual concern is that a quick test would have unearthed the issue before it was sent out. It may be extra steps and man hours but it’s peace of mind for the customer and saves them from dealing with the cost and confidence loss of bad product. |
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Posted: 3/9/2023 10:54:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: I have no doubt they’ll make it right. I was pretty upset at first because it ruined my plans for this weekend. But life happens. My only actual concern is that a quick test would have unearthed the issue before it was sent out. It may be extra steps and man hours but it’s peace of mind for the customer and saves them from dealing with the cost and confidence loss of bad product. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Originally Posted By fmkenner: I hope it isn't a problem for all of them. I'm kinda want to get one. I don't have any weapon lights except for my ir light. I have no doubt they’ll make it right. I was pretty upset at first because it ruined my plans for this weekend. But life happens. My only actual concern is that a quick test would have unearthed the issue before it was sent out. It may be extra steps and man hours but it’s peace of mind for the customer and saves them from dealing with the cost and confidence loss of bad product. It's pretty unlike cloud to send bad things out the Door. Sean's a good dude and genuinely cares about the community and his customers. Not an excuse, things happen. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:30:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JJL0325]
[#9]
Just got my REIN 3.0 today from Midwest Optics, and also saw that CD is having a 35% off sale on their 3.0 heads, so grabbed one to use on my 2.0 and can use the 2.0 head on my MCH to correct the mistake of getting the Dual Output head.
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Posted: 3/11/2023 3:17:20 AM EDT
[#10]
The 3.0 head is larger than the 2.0 correct?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/11/2023 8:36:30 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: The 3.0 head is larger than the 2.0 correct? Yes it is |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/11/2023 12:48:17 PM EDT
[#12]
On Facebook cd said they were giving a free chicro admin light with a rein 3 purchase, this weekend only.
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Posted: 3/12/2023 7:43:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
[#13]
Cloud is most likely sending me a new tailcap/switch assembly. I took a close look at the tailcap and there’s a crack in it. It broke right at where the wire comes out and it looks like they break the mold from there too. I’m guessing that’s not coincidence, but really just a guess.
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IN, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2023 2:11:03 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Cloud is most likely sending me a new tailcap/switch assembly. I took a close look at the tailcap and there’s a crack in it. It broke right at where the wire comes out and it looks like they break the mold from there too. I’m guessing that’s not coincidence, but really just a guess. I'm getting a new tailcap/switch assembly as well. my tape switch would work, but the tail cap button was hit or miss and would flicker. It was a weird problem that I couldn't figure out. They were quick to remedy it, but it sounds like their may be some issues with the tailcap/switch assembly. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 6:11:37 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wally05: I'm getting a new tailcap/switch assembly as well. my tape switch would work, but the tail cap button was hit or miss and would flicker. It was a weird problem that I couldn't figure out. They were quick to remedy it, but it sounds like there may be some issues with the tailcap/switch assembly. I looked close at mine and the tailcap switch housing was cracked. I think it’s a design flaw as they break the mold right next to the hole for the remote cord. It makes no sense to break the mold from the weakest spot on the entire thing. Not sure if I’m going to keep mine yet. I got my light in 36 hours from ordering. Now I’m approaching 4 days with no notice of shipping the replacement. Might be picky but I’m not too happy with the entire thing. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2023 6:22:29 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By takdriver: Looks like a nice light. I am glad this one will take non rechargeables in a pinch. Awesome I was under the impression that CD couldn’t use cr123s which is a deal breaker for me when that’s what my NV and laser use ….. I went with an 18650 Arisaka and I’m not due for an upgrade but will confer the CD down the road |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 7:54:03 PM EDT
[#17]
I won a Rein 2.0 at the random number raffle at Red Oktober last year. It works great and is ridiculously bright. My only gripe is I want a clicky cap and not the remote switch. It's always out of stock. The switch feels a little flimsy and I think if I hit it or dropped it on the switch, it might cause a problem and then I am SOL on using the light.
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Posted: 3/16/2023 9:27:06 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M1Lou: I won a Rein 2.0 at the random number raffle at Red Oktober last year. It works great and is ridiculously bright. My only gripe is I want a clicky cap and not the remote switch. It's always out of stock. The switch feels a little flimsy and I think if I hit it or dropped it on the switch, it might cause a problem and then I am SOL on using the light. The tail cap and remote switch are supposedly isolated circuits, which would mean that even if you cut the remote switch off, the tail cap should work. |
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Posted: 3/17/2023 9:56:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Marksman14]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By keeperofthedew: The tail cap and remote switch are supposedly isolated circuits, which would mean that even if you cut the remote switch off, the tail cap should work. They literally do this in a demo video on the 3.0 so you’re exactly right! Broken switch won’t kill the clicky. |
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Posted: 3/17/2023 11:37:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marksman14: They literally do this in a demo video on the 3.0 so you’re exactly right! Broken switch won’t kill the clicky. That much is true, but the bigger problem is the tailcap itself. If it dies, the remote switch dies too so they’re not 100% isolated. That’s compounded by the fact that their tailcaps are where majority of their reliability issues pop up. Both the MCH and the Rein 3.0 are crapping out at unacceptable levels. Their Facebook owners group is a bloodbath, so it’s not just a high failure rate from this topic alone. I’d recommend my OWL above and beyond. Anything else from Cloud is a gamble and in my opinion, not duty rated. Their tailcap is excessively failure prone and the breakage from mine isn’t a solitaire example of what I consider to be a catastrophic design flaw. They need to either reinforce the thickness of their tailcap switch housing or stop breaking their molds like cavemen. Until they do that, the issues will continue and I consider them hobby grade lights at best. |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 9:25:36 PM EDT
[#21]
I was thinking about switching to a Rein 3.0 so I could mount the light all the way forward and keep the switch back where I like my hand. After reading this thread it sounds like I should keep my OWLs and live with the little bit of barrel shadow I get from not having the light at the end of the barrel.
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Posted: 3/18/2023 10:14:58 PM EDT
[#22]
I bought a REIN 3.0 yesterday and read this thread today...
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Posted: 3/18/2023 11:06:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
[#23]
To be fair, you have a better chance of getting a good one than a bad one. They usually show if they’re going to have a problem pretty quick too. There’s a picture below that shows where they crack when they break them from the mold so you can check yours. (Along the mold line then breaks off upwards at the rear of the switch. You can tell they didn’t put much effort into them post mold either.)
It sucks because I love my OWL, but between the regular issues and dragged out customer service I’m not the fan I used to be. I’m at the 12 day mark of trying to get things resolved and going on day 6 of waiting for a ship notification for the new switch they said they were sending me. That’s a pretty significant contrast considering how fast they take care of new purchases. I think the owner is a character in a bad way, but I’m probably going to be buying Modlites from here on out. This was a major bummer as I was a pretty devoted Cloud fan before. 
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Posted: 3/19/2023 2:16:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
[#24]
Received the new switch today. They apparently just forgot to send tracking like they said.
Edit: The Cloud provided battery did not work despite showing 4 volts. I tried another battery and it does work. Just as a double check I switched the tailcaps out again just to verify and no dice with that switch either way. Switched it back and success. So I have my Rein 3.0 working now. ETA2: Cloud battery is definitely bad. Threw it in the charger again and it wouldn’t even register. Tapped it a couple times and it showed 4 volts still. That’s a relief and I about lost my shit because of it.  Also adjusted it and tried it with CR123’s just because. If there’s a lumen loss I can’t tell in a pitch black room. It’s just bright with either. I’m going to run the shit out if it to see how it holds up. Maybe I judged them too harshly, maybe I didn’t. I’ll leave that up to anyone reading this. I still think they have some QC issues with their switches they need to address but I’ll give this one a shot for now. 
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Posted: 3/19/2023 6:27:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: hoody2shoez]
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Received the new switch today. They apparently just forgot to send tracking like they said. Edit: The Cloud provided battery did not work despite showing 4 volts. I tried another battery and it does work. Just as a double check I switched the tailcaps out again just to verify and no dice with that switch either way. Switched it back and success. So I have my Rein 3.0 working now. ETA2: Cloud battery is definitely bad. Threw it in the charger again and it wouldn’t even register. Tapped it a couple times and it showed 4 volts still. That’s a relief and I about lost my shit because of it. Also adjusted it and tried it with CR123’s just because. If there’s a lumen loss I can’t tell in a pitch black room. It’s just bright with either. I’m going to run the shit out if it to see how it holds up. Maybe I judged them too harshly, maybe I didn’t. I’ll leave that up to anyone reading this. I still think they have some QC issues with their switches they need to address but I’ll give this one a shot for now. https://i.ibb.co/cFY8Gvm/60793734-F109-4-F54-BD31-B4-B04-E73-B2-C1.jpg Take this for what it's worth- I've seen both modlite and cloud a fair amount down range. Modlights have more failures from usage. I think it's due to the Frankenstein nature of the parts. Cloud had more issues out of the box but less overall issues. Frankly, I haven't seen a rein actually break from use in real life yet. As always, ymmv Hopefully that doesn't sound like I'm simping. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 7:08:07 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: Take this for what it's worth- I've seen both modlite and cloud a fair amount down range. Modlights have more failures from usage. I think it's due to the Frankenstein nature of the parts. Cloud had more issues out of the box but less overall issues. Frankly, I haven't seen a rein actually break from use in real life yet. As always, ymmv Hopefully that doesn't sound like I'm simping. I wouldn’t be surprised if that assessment was spot on. Quality control versus durability. I’ve never had a Surefire product have any issues but they’re way behind in the performance aspect. Maybe one of the new turbos is what I need next time. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2023 8:13:44 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: I wouldn’t be surprised if that assessment was spot on. Quality control versus durability. I’ve never had a Surefire product have any issues but they’re way behind in the performance aspect. Maybe one of the new turbos is what I need next time. I’ve had multiple Surefires die, especially a few dual fuels, which are known to die. It happens, but 1,000 lumen ones tend to be fine. |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 6:08:35 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: To be fair, you have a better chance of getting a good one than a bad one. They usually show if they’re going to have a problem pretty quick too. There’s a picture below that shows where they crack when they break them from the mold so you can check yours. (Along the mold line then breaks off upwards at the rear of the switch. You can tell they didn’t put much effort into them post mold either.) It sucks because I love my OWL, but between the regular issues and dragged out customer service I’m not the fan I used to be. I’m at the 12 day mark of trying to get things resolved and going on day 6 of waiting for a ship notification for the new switch they said they were sending me. That’s a pretty significant contrast considering how fast they take care of new purchases. I think the owner is a character in a bad way, but I’m probably going to be buying Modlites from here on out. This was a major bummer as I was a pretty devoted Cloud fan before. https://i.ibb.co/D4Hrywr/EE8-FB7-EE-B71-E-4512-920-D-90-C08820-D975.jpg @-OdieGreen- Below is a picture of my tail cap. I am unsure if mine is affected or not but it looks similar to yours.  |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 6:12:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WVUSIG: @-OdieGreen- Below is a picture of my tail cap. I am unsure if mine is affected or not but it looks similar to yours. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504306/3BFCA561-195D-4FF9-8365-20E36DEE5A75-2753356.jpg I don’t see any cracks like mine had. Definitely looks like it was cleaned up on a Friday afternoon though. Biggest question is does it work. I’m beginning to wonder if excessive flashing left over has any impact on it once the tailcap cover is screwed on. Could be breaking from the mold or during final assembly when it’s tightened down. I didn’t think to check if the flashing on mine stuck out past the threads. |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 6:36:07 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: I don’t see any cracks like mine had. Definitely looks like it was cleaned up on a Friday afternoon though. Biggest question is does it work. I’m beginning to wonder if excessive flashing left over has any impact on it once the tailcap cover is screwed on. Could be breaking from the mold or during final assembly when it’s tightened down. I didn’t think to check if the flashing on mine stuck out past the threads. It seems to work okay but I have not yet mounted it and shot with it yet. I will try to get out this weekend and give it a shot. Thanks for your helpful posts. |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 6:49:38 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WVUSIG: It seems to work okay but I have not yet mounted it and shot with it yet. I will try to get out this weekend and give it a shot. Thanks for your helpful posts. Hope it goes well. I do advise watching their set up video if yours didn’t come with an owners manual like mine. While mine was doomed no matter what, there is a process that needs to be followed that does impact function.  REIN Setup and Troubleshoot |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 3/21/2023 7:21:16 PM EDT
[#32]
I installed the replacement tailcap and tape switch and it fixed my flickering problem. No issues now! Their green color is interesting.
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Posted: 3/21/2023 7:33:42 PM EDT
[#33]
Just got a response to a question I asked CD about when they were going to list the 3.0 as a standard kit (without remote switch and charger- like they did with the 1.0) and they said they have no plans to do so.
So if you want it without the pressure pad you'll have to buy the standard switch for $50.
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Posted: 3/21/2023 9:32:40 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wally05: I installed the replacement tailcap and tape switch and it fixed my flickering problem. No issues now! Their green color is interesting. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52761865886_cbfc21cef2_c.jpg Nice boomstick. One of their employees posted on social media they’re currently moving to another company to do the anodizing. The provider they used a few years ago was among the best. I think they use a less abrasive media on them now which makes them somewhat shiny. My OWL feels like sandpaper compared to my Rein. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/21/2023 11:45:17 PM EDT
[#35]
Just ordered the Rein 3. I'm going on the idea it's a quality light and watch out for some issues with the switch. I scratched the idea of getting a Fenix or Nitecore.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2023 12:10:20 AM EDT
[#36]
Younger brother bought a rein 3.0 and I have used it hunting twice with no issues at all. I am very particular about my gear and wouldn’t hesitate to use one for any purpose.
It’s also super bright. My x300 turbo is a close 2nd to it as far as performance (both can really throw a beam) though so I haven’t bought one myself. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/24/2023 3:41:32 PM EDT
[#37]
Got my rein 3 today, man that's fast service. Got it because of this thread. Thanks.
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Posted: 4/10/2023 9:28:48 PM EDT
[#38]
Does anyone know what the 3.0 weighs with battery/ies and (sold separately
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Posted: 4/10/2023 11:46:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DDS87: Does anyone know what the 3.0 weighs with battery/ies and (sold separately ) push-button cap?It does come with an 18650 (and a charger for it). It accounted for an extra 7 ounces on my rifle but my scale stops at ounces. Cloud lists it at 6.9 ounces for the light, switch, and an 18650. I imagine the difference only accounts for a few tenths of an ounce as the switch is pretty light. |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 12:27:48 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DDS87: Does anyone know what the 3.0 weighs with battery/ies and (sold separately ) push-button cap?Just cut the wire to the remote switch. (I do find it obnoxious that they don't sell a version with just tail cap activation) |
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Posted: 4/12/2023 10:16:28 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: It does come with an 18650 (and a charger for it). It accounted for an extra 7 ounces on my rifle but my scale stops at ounces. Cloud lists it at 6.9 ounces for the light, switch, and an 18650. I imagine the difference only accounts for a few tenths of an ounce as the switch is pretty light. Ok, thanks. I do like they include a charger, though I have one from my OWL. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 9:31:18 PM EDT
[#42]
After some time with this light I’m glad I let my temper tantrum go and gave them a chance to make it right. It’s been 100% solid and I have the brightest weapon light of anyone I know. Wouldn’t trade it for anything else on the market now.
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Posted: 5/26/2023 11:24:36 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: After some time with this light I’m glad I let my temper tantrum go and gave them a chance to make it right. It’s been 100% solid and I have the brightest weapon light of anyone I know. Wouldn’t trade it for anything else on the market now. Welcome to team cloud lol |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 11:33:19 PM EDT
[#44]
I went from the 3.0 to surefire dual fuel 18350. If rein does a 3.0 dual fuel micro, Id be tempted.
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Posted: 5/27/2023 12:57:19 AM EDT
[#45]
Ended up putting a Rein 3.0 on my wife's build; everything else was chosen for a balance of low cost and low weight
She said she wanted to be sure she could see what she needed to if she needed to shoot something in the woods.   Attached File |
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Posted: 5/27/2023 1:31:14 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: Welcome to team cloud lol More of a welcome back.  Love the original COR rail and OWL combo. Unless the rail or light breaks/fails, I’ll probably have this combo til I get chucked in the dirt. |
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Posted: 6/27/2023 3:47:23 PM EDT
[#47]
Just ordered one in odg for my current AR set up....can't wait for it to get here, will post pics once i put it on!
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Posted: 7/4/2023 11:27:24 PM EDT
[#48]
Just some porn and a reminder I still need to replace my fire pit cover.
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Posted: 7/25/2023 2:22:56 PM EDT
[#49]
I know I'm bumping an old thread, but I'm considering this light or the modlight plhv2 with the surefire ds00 switch. Does anyone have experience with both? How would you compare them in performance and size? Do you have pics of both?
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Posted: 7/25/2023 3:23:02 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tarheel7734: I know I'm bumping an old thread, but I'm considering this light or the modlight plhv2 with the surefire ds00 switch. Does anyone have experience with both? How would you compare them in performance and size? Do you have pics of both? The 3.0 will have close to plhv2 spill with a hotspot/throw closer to the okw head. |
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