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Posted: 3/19/2016 4:51:57 PM EDT
I am new to the AR15 world and looking for an honest, unbiased opinion on an armorer's wrench. I was looking on Amazon for reviews but all of the options seemed pretty 50/50. Not sure if the make and model of my gun changes the kind of wrench I may need but I have a Bushmaster XM15. I may also be looking for a vice block and pin punch set. Any and all information is appreciated.
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For a multi purpose wrench, I'd go with the Magpul. The best barrel wrench I've used to date has come from 2unique LLC. They also have a nice punch set.
I use a Brownells clam shell mostly, and it's given me zero issues if you are using standard forged uppers. I haven't tried the Magpul block but I'd like to. I have used a reaction rod but won't use it for barreling anymore if I don't have to - just muzzle devices. |
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[#2]
I recommend the Wheeler wrench. Has practically everything you need, and then they give you some bits for other things (6 of the most common). Decent price too, Midway has it for about $22.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/773840/wheeler-engineering-delta-series-multi-tool-ar-15-steel |
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[#3]
Thanks for the info, I was looking into the magpul and it definitely seems like one of the better multi tools.
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[#4]
Im not a fan of the all in one multi tool. It can be a little clumsy. I use two like this:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/154145/tapco-multi-tool-ar-15-mil-spec-steel http://www.midwayusa.com/product/132847/geissele-barrel-nut-wrench-ar-15-lr-308 |
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[#5]
I've had 3 or 4 of the cheap multi tools.
None lasted more than 1 or 2 uses. Finally bought a Magpul and loved it. But it was useless on my LaRue stealth. Pins too short. So I had to buy a spikes GI wrench. So lesson here. Buy once cry once. I could've bought both the spikes and magpul from the start for what I paid for that other junk. |
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I have an AIM sports wrench but the pins are too wide to fit the buffer tube castle nut. Barrel nuts are also a bit the tight; I don't think they properly accounted for the coating thickness when they designed the wrench.
I borrowed a coworkers Magnum wrench to build an upper and was very impressed. The price is a little steep but it's definitely a nice wrench. Folks used to like the hammerhead wrench. I'm not sure if they stopped making them or if it's not the flavor of the month anymore. They still have a website but it appears to only fit buffer tubes and muzzle devices. If your going to the trouble of buying a dedicated AR wrench, it should at least fit the buffer tube, muzzle, and standard barrel nuts, IMO. |
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I used the Tapco Armorer's wrench. A little more expensive than some (about $37 on walmart.com ), but cheaper than others. Does pretty much everything, unless you have some proprietary barrel nut size (like I did). It worked perfect for tightening the castle nut and the flash hider. It's built very solidly (about 1/4" thick). The only negative about it is the paint tends to flake off a bit under force, but that doesn't affect performance at all.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Tapco-AR-Armour-s-Tool/22286830 |
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I used the Tapco Armorer's wrench. A little more expensive than some (about $37 on walmart.com ), but cheaper than others. Does pretty much everything, unless you have some proprietary barrel nut size (like I did). It worked perfect for tightening the castle nut and the flash hider. It's built very solidly (about 1/4" thick). The only negative about it is the paint tends to flake off a bit under force, but that doesn't affect performance at all. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Tapco-AR-Armour-s-Tool/22286830 View Quote +1 for the Tapco. So far, it is the best one that I have used. The Wheeler one is nice, just a little awkward sometimes with where everything is placed. I haven't had a chance to use the magpul ones, but that is mainly because I haven't needed to as I have my tapco. |
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+1 for the Tapco. So far, it is the best one that I have used. The Wheeler one is nice, just a little awkward sometimes with where everything is placed. I haven't had a chance to use the magpul ones, but that is mainly because I haven't needed to as I have my tapco. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I used the Tapco Armorer's wrench. A little more expensive than some (about $37 on walmart.com ), but cheaper than others. Does pretty much everything, unless you have some proprietary barrel nut size (like I did). It worked perfect for tightening the castle nut and the flash hider. It's built very solidly (about 1/4" thick). The only negative about it is the paint tends to flake off a bit under force, but that doesn't affect performance at all. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Tapco-AR-Armour-s-Tool/22286830 +1 for the Tapco. So far, it is the best one that I have used. The Wheeler one is nice, just a little awkward sometimes with where everything is placed. I haven't had a chance to use the magpul ones, but that is mainly because I haven't needed to as I have my tapco. Generally not a Tapco fan, but their multi-wrench is an exception. It is quite good. Get Brownells upper receiver vise block to go with it. |
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[#11]
For wrenches 2UniqueLLC and BRD Engineering. Their wrenches are the best that I have found.
For installing the barrel I have been using the Geissele Super Reaction Rod and it has worked for me so far. I would not use the regular Geissele Reaction Rod or any of the copycat Reaction Rod style tools though... There has been way to many posts about them shearing index pins. I use barrel blocks for working on muzzle devices. Any specific punches that I have bought for working on the AR have come from Brownells and RGUNS. The two punches from RGUNS are unbeatable for installing the bolt catch roll pin. |
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+1 for the Tapco. So far, it is the best one that I have used. The Wheeler one is nice, just a little awkward sometimes with where everything is placed. I haven't had a chance to use the magpul ones, but that is mainly because I haven't needed to as I have my tapco. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I used the Tapco Armorer's wrench. A little more expensive than some (about $37 on walmart.com ), but cheaper than others. Does pretty much everything, unless you have some proprietary barrel nut size (like I did). It worked perfect for tightening the castle nut and the flash hider. It's built very solidly (about 1/4" thick). The only negative about it is the paint tends to flake off a bit under force, but that doesn't affect performance at all. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Tapco-AR-Armour-s-Tool/22286830 +1 for the Tapco. So far, it is the best one that I have used. The Wheeler one is nice, just a little awkward sometimes with where everything is placed. I haven't had a chance to use the magpul ones, but that is mainly because I haven't needed to as I have my tapco. +2. The Tapco Armorer's wrench does all well. Also not a fan of Tapco, but this tool is done right. Don't waste your $ on a magpul wrench unless you just want the MP bling. |
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+2. The Tapco Armorer's wrench does all well. Also not a fan of Tapco, but this tool is done right. Don't waste your $ on a magpul wrench unless you just want the MP bling. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I used the Tapco Armorer's wrench. A little more expensive than some (about $37 on walmart.com ), but cheaper than others. Does pretty much everything, unless you have some proprietary barrel nut size (like I did). It worked perfect for tightening the castle nut and the flash hider. It's built very solidly (about 1/4" thick). The only negative about it is the paint tends to flake off a bit under force, but that doesn't affect performance at all. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Tapco-AR-Armour-s-Tool/22286830 +1 for the Tapco. So far, it is the best one that I have used. The Wheeler one is nice, just a little awkward sometimes with where everything is placed. I haven't had a chance to use the magpul ones, but that is mainly because I haven't needed to as I have my tapco. +2. The Tapco Armorer's wrench does all well. Also not a fan of Tapco, but this tool is done right. Don't waste your $ on a magpul wrench unless you just want the MP bling. The tapco wrench offers a certain value at it's price point but the USA made forged Magpul wrench is very different in both design and build quality (full loop engagement for castle nuts along with rounded edges with no sharp areas to cut you if you slip). Tapco wrench -Amazon reviews Magpul Wrench - Amazon reviews |
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The tapco wrench offers a certain value at it's price point but the USA made forged Magpul wrench is very different in both design and build quality (full loop engagement for castle nuts along with rounded edges with no sharp areas to cut you if you slip). Tapco wrench -Amazon reviews Magpul Wrench - Amazon reviews View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I used the Tapco Armorer's wrench. A little more expensive than some (about $37 on walmart.com ), but cheaper than others. Does pretty much everything, unless you have some proprietary barrel nut size (like I did). It worked perfect for tightening the castle nut and the flash hider. It's built very solidly (about 1/4" thick). The only negative about it is the paint tends to flake off a bit under force, but that doesn't affect performance at all. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Tapco-AR-Armour-s-Tool/22286830 +1 for the Tapco. So far, it is the best one that I have used. The Wheeler one is nice, just a little awkward sometimes with where everything is placed. I haven't had a chance to use the magpul ones, but that is mainly because I haven't needed to as I have my tapco. +2. The Tapco Armorer's wrench does all well. Also not a fan of Tapco, but this tool is done right. Don't waste your $ on a magpul wrench unless you just want the MP bling. The tapco wrench offers a certain value at it's price point but the USA made forged Magpul wrench is very different in both design and build quality (full loop engagement for castle nuts along with rounded edges with no sharp areas to cut you if you slip). Tapco wrench -Amazon reviews Magpul Wrench - Amazon reviews I really like my Magpul wrench. I have used a few different types and the Magpul is my favorite. I have a couple friends who ask to borrow my Magpul wrench often and both have other brands of wrenches (they are obviously cheap or I'm enabling them). My sole reason for buying the Magpul wrench was the castle nut section. I was slightly damaging castle nuts with my old wrench and the Magpul wrench is well designed in that area. It is hefty, no sharp edges and designed very well. |
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The tapco wrench offers a certain value at it's price point but the USA made forged Magpul wrench is very different in both design and build quality (full loop engagement for castle nuts along with rounded edges with no sharp areas to cut you if you slip). Tapco wrench -Amazon reviews Magpul Wrench - Amazon reviews View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I used the Tapco Armorer's wrench. A little more expensive than some (about $37 on walmart.com ), but cheaper than others. Does pretty much everything, unless you have some proprietary barrel nut size (like I did). It worked perfect for tightening the castle nut and the flash hider. It's built very solidly (about 1/4" thick). The only negative about it is the paint tends to flake off a bit under force, but that doesn't affect performance at all. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Tapco-AR-Armour-s-Tool/22286830 +1 for the Tapco. So far, it is the best one that I have used. The Wheeler one is nice, just a little awkward sometimes with where everything is placed. I haven't had a chance to use the magpul ones, but that is mainly because I haven't needed to as I have my tapco. +2. The Tapco Armorer's wrench does all well. Also not a fan of Tapco, but this tool is done right. Don't waste your $ on a magpul wrench unless you just want the MP bling. The tapco wrench offers a certain value at it's price point but the USA made forged Magpul wrench is very different in both design and build quality (full loop engagement for castle nuts along with rounded edges with no sharp areas to cut you if you slip). Tapco wrench -Amazon reviews Magpul Wrench - Amazon reviews ... which has never been an issue (until MP says it is). People have been using non full loop castle nut wrenches since... forever (without issue). No thanks. Tapco does everything yours does, for less (and as well). I'm not saying yours isn't a great wrench (I'm positive it IS)... but for "value"?.... NO. Tapco has your A** beat (hard). |
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... which has never been an issue (until MP says it is). People have been using non full loop castle nut wrenches since... forever (without issue). No thanks. Tapco does everything yours does, for less (and as well). I'm not saying yours isn't a great wrench (I'm positive it IS)... but for "value"?.... NO. Tapco has your A** beat (hard). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I used the Tapco Armorer's wrench. A little more expensive than some (about $37 on walmart.com ), but cheaper than others. Does pretty much everything, unless you have some proprietary barrel nut size (like I did). It worked perfect for tightening the castle nut and the flash hider. It's built very solidly (about 1/4" thick). The only negative about it is the paint tends to flake off a bit under force, but that doesn't affect performance at all. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Tapco-AR-Armour-s-Tool/22286830 +1 for the Tapco. So far, it is the best one that I have used. The Wheeler one is nice, just a little awkward sometimes with where everything is placed. I haven't had a chance to use the magpul ones, but that is mainly because I haven't needed to as I have my tapco. +2. The Tapco Armorer's wrench does all well. Also not a fan of Tapco, but this tool is done right. Don't waste your $ on a magpul wrench unless you just want the MP bling. The tapco wrench offers a certain value at it's price point but the USA made forged Magpul wrench is very different in both design and build quality (full loop engagement for castle nuts along with rounded edges with no sharp areas to cut you if you slip). Tapco wrench -Amazon reviews Magpul Wrench - Amazon reviews ... which has never been an issue (until MP says it is). People have been using non full loop castle nut wrenches since... forever (without issue). No thanks. Tapco does everything yours does, for less (and as well). I'm not saying yours isn't a great wrench (I'm positive it IS)... but for "value"?.... NO. Tapco has your A** beat (hard). My go to castle nut wrench for a decade was a full loop version due to it not slipping off the nut. Try both and report back. Trust me if you are breaking free a tough castle nut full loop is the way to go. |
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I have never used a Tapco wrench and I probably never would. I'm sure I would hurt myself after looking at it. Do you have to wrap the opposite side with something when using it? I must have sissy girl hands because it looks like it would be painful when cranking down on it to tighten a castle nut.
I have used 4 different wrenches and the best I have used is the Magpul. I bought it for the full loop castle nut section. I could not get the two standard AR wrenches to not slip at some point or very slightly mar the castle nut tab sections. The Magpul wrench works perfectly for this and now it's all I use. It must be a wrench that is made for idiots because it works great for me. If I had to recommend a wrench for first time assemblers, it would be the Magpul wrench. |
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Magpul wrench = Snap on View Quote That's been the correlation I was planning to post. Having been a professional mechanic in my earlier life I can relate to this. I own a lot of Snap-On tools and I shiver at the thought of what I paid for them. Had I not used them everyday I would have settled for a slightly lower price point. Where is this Snap-On of AR tools manufactured? Jester |
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... which has never been an issue (until MP says it is). People have been using non full loop castle nut wrenches since... forever (without issue). No thanks. Tapco does everything yours does, for less (and as well). I'm not saying yours isn't a great wrench (I'm positive it IS)... but for "value"?.... NO. Tapco has your A** beat (hard). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I used the Tapco Armorer's wrench. A little more expensive than some (about $37 on walmart.com ), but cheaper than others. Does pretty much everything, unless you have some proprietary barrel nut size (like I did). It worked perfect for tightening the castle nut and the flash hider. It's built very solidly (about 1/4" thick). The only negative about it is the paint tends to flake off a bit under force, but that doesn't affect performance at all. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Tapco-AR-Armour-s-Tool/22286830 +1 for the Tapco. So far, it is the best one that I have used. The Wheeler one is nice, just a little awkward sometimes with where everything is placed. I haven't had a chance to use the magpul ones, but that is mainly because I haven't needed to as I have my tapco. +2. The Tapco Armorer's wrench does all well. Also not a fan of Tapco, but this tool is done right. Don't waste your $ on a magpul wrench unless you just want the MP bling. The tapco wrench offers a certain value at it's price point but the USA made forged Magpul wrench is very different in both design and build quality (full loop engagement for castle nuts along with rounded edges with no sharp areas to cut you if you slip). Tapco wrench -Amazon reviews Magpul Wrench - Amazon reviews ... which has never been an issue (until MP says it is). People have been using non full loop castle nut wrenches since... forever (without issue). No thanks. Tapco does everything yours does, for less (and as well). I'm not saying yours isn't a great wrench (I'm positive it IS)... but for "value"?.... NO. Tapco has your A** beat (hard). I used the tapco for a long time until I ruined a buffer extension because the wrench isn't a full loop and the tab dug all through the threading on the tube. I've never had any problems with the full loop ones. |
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I used the tapco for a long time until I ruined a buffer extension because the wrench isn't a full loop and the tab dug all through the threading on the tube. I've never had any problems with the full loop ones. View Quote If you used it for "years" and suddenly had an issue with ONE receiver extension... it isn't the wrench. Sorry, but you had other parts out of spec. |
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If you used it for "years" and suddenly had an issue with ONE receiver extension... it isn't the wrench. Sorry, but you had other parts out of spec. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I used the tapco for a long time until I ruined a buffer extension because the wrench isn't a full loop and the tab dug all through the threading on the tube. I've never had any problems with the full loop ones. If you used it for "years" and suddenly had an issue with ONE receiver extension... it isn't the wrench. Sorry, but you had other parts out of spec. He is/ was probably in the same boat as me. There would be an occasional slip or slight damage to the castle nut or extension but nothing that would be more than cosmetic. One day, it slips and cause serious damage. The fact is that a closed end/ loop castle nut wrench section is less likely to slip and cause damage. There is no disputing that. |
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+1 for magpul. I don't like the closed design of the castle nut wrench, but it works.
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