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Posted: 5/22/2016 11:06:44 PM EDT
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What's your budget? For $300, the SWFA Super Sniper 10x is hard to beat.
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Posted: 5/22/2016 11:07:13 PM EDT
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Super sniper scope ! They start at about 350.00 for 10x40 .
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Posted: 5/22/2016 11:30:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2016 12:25:44 AM EDT
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Don't know what you consider budget but I would recommend any of the 3 scopes I've bought recently...
Weaver Kaspa 1.5-6x32 illuminated with bdc reticle. (maybe not precision but I like it on my SPR) Got it for like $199 with a Burris QD mount Primary Arms 4-16x44 illuminated mil-dot $174...hard to beat Weaver 2-10x36 super slam, illuminated...got it on sale at Natchez for $400...Check Natchez for sales, they have really good prices... |
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Posted: 5/23/2016 1:14:33 AM EDT
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A whole lotta scope for the money, frequently goes on sale for $300: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/598484/weaver-tactical-grand-slam-rifle-scope-3-10x-40mm-1-10-mil-adjustments-mil-dot-reticle-matte?cm_vc=ProductFinding
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Posted: 5/23/2016 8:27:57 AM EDT
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A whole lotta scope for the money, frequently goes on sale for $300: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/598484/weaver-tactical-grand-slam-rifle-scope-3-10x-40mm-1-10-mil-adjustments-mil-dot-reticle-matte?cm_vc=ProductFinding This is the answer. Mil/mil turrets and reticle are ideal for precision shooting as they are accurate and track faithfully. Very good for price point real Japanese glass and construction. A steal at $299 when on sale. Compares to scopes at least 50% more costly. |
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Posted: 5/23/2016 10:26:11 AM EDT
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This is the answer. Mil/mil turrets and reticle are ideal for precision shooting as they are accurate and track faithfully. Very good for price point real Japanese glass and construction. A steal at $299 when on sale. Compares to scopes at least 50% more costly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A whole lotta scope for the money, frequently goes on sale for $300: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/598484/weaver-tactical-grand-slam-rifle-scope-3-10x-40mm-1-10-mil-adjustments-mil-dot-reticle-matte?cm_vc=ProductFinding This is the answer. Mil/mil turrets and reticle are ideal for precision shooting as they are accurate and track faithfully. Very good for price point real Japanese glass and construction. A steal at $299 when on sale. Compares to scopes at least 50% more costly. These are quality scopes, especially when they go on sale for $300. If Optics Planet has this scope in stock, they will most likely sell it for the $300 if you open a chat with them and ask them to match that price. |
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Posted: 5/23/2016 10:58:08 AM EDT
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Lots of good options guys. Thank you. You hit my price point spot on. I'm looking at the Primary Arms 4-14. Both the .308/.223 version and the 5.56 version.
.308/.223 https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-414x44-ffp-scope-with-patented-acss-hud-dmr-308-reticle/p/pa4-14xffp308/ 5.56 https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-414x44mm-riflescope-acss-hud-dmr-556-nato-reticle/p/pa4-14xffp-acss-hud-dmr-5.56/ Now seeing that it will be mounted on a 5.56 rifle I'm assuming that I should go with the latter scope? The likelihood of me mounting it on a .308 is unlikely because I don't currently own one but if I really get into long range stuff I may end up purchasing one. |
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Posted: 5/23/2016 8:35:38 PM EDT
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Can the above be used not illuminated?
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Posted: 5/24/2016 9:10:25 AM EDT
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These are quality scopes, especially when they go on sale for $300. If Optics Planet has this scope in stock, they will most likely sell it for the $300 if you open a chat with them and ask them to match that price. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A whole lotta scope for the money, frequently goes on sale for $300: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/598484/weaver-tactical-grand-slam-rifle-scope-3-10x-40mm-1-10-mil-adjustments-mil-dot-reticle-matte?cm_vc=ProductFinding This is the answer. Mil/mil turrets and reticle are ideal for precision shooting as they are accurate and track faithfully. Very good for price point real Japanese glass and construction. A steal at $299 when on sale. Compares to scopes at least 50% more costly. These are quality scopes, especially when they go on sale for $300. If Optics Planet has this scope in stock, they will most likely sell it for the $300 if you open a chat with them and ask them to match that price. The Weaver GST we are recommending is a MidwayUSA exclusive. It is by a wide margin better than any $299 tactical scope when you can catch it on frequent sale. While Primary Arms offers nice budget scopes, they must compromise on optical quality to add the illumination and special FFP BDC reticles, and use less expeneive and heavy materials. The scope represents good value, but resolution and contrast suffer at distance compared to scopes with Japanese glass. The link does not disclose the weight of the scope. Ifyou download the owners manual you will see it weighs a very hefty 24 ounces! That's a lot to lug around. By contrast, Leupold's $299 non-illuminated Mark AR 3-9x40 tactical scope weighs half that at 12 ounces. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 1:42:53 PM EDT
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Can the above be used not illuminated? Yes the red horseshoe turns black when off, and the horseshoe is the only part of that reticle that illuminates. One reason why I like the mildot better. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 1:57:26 PM EDT
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Bushnell Elite 10x40mm for $200 on Amazon
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Posted: 5/24/2016 2:19:39 PM EDT
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If you are a vet contact Vortex for .mil pricing. Of the scopes listed in this thread, I would get the Weaver from Midway - even though I don't like the 1" tube. The Weaver 3-10 with mil/mil turrets and reticle is a one of the better deals going. SWFA 10x is pretty useable as well. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 3:13:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/24/2016 4:34:05 PM EDT
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http://swfa.com/Blackhawk-3-9x40-Tactical-Riflescope-P66735.aspx
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Posted: 5/24/2016 5:34:00 PM EDT
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This is the answer. Mil/mil turrets and reticle are ideal for precision shooting as they are accurate and track faithfully. Very good for price point real Japanese glass and construction. A steal at $299 when on sale. Compares to scopes at least 50% more costly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A whole lotta scope for the money, frequently goes on sale for $300: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/598484/weaver-tactical-grand-slam-rifle-scope-3-10x-40mm-1-10-mil-adjustments-mil-dot-reticle-matte?cm_vc=ProductFinding This is the answer. Mil/mil turrets and reticle are ideal for precision shooting as they are accurate and track faithfully. Very good for price point real Japanese glass and construction. A steal at $299 when on sale. Compares to scopes at least 50% more costly. I have used this scope many times on my buddies rifle out to a 1000 and it is good to go. The SWFA SS is great as well and has parallax adjustment, but not a variable at this price point. The Primary Arms 4 x16 using their version of the HORUS reticle is getting good reviews from some buddies of mine but I have yet to get to use one myself. Hope they come out with a 25 X and I will Fo. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 5:43:40 PM EDT
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Now I'm checking this thing out. Anyone have reviews on the tracking and the mil measurements being correct as far ranging targets? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bushnell Elite 10x40mm for $200 on Amazon They are AWESOME for tracking and ranging (within the limits of ranging with a 10x). But not mil/mil or variable. The lack of a parallax knob may or may not be an issue. According to the experts (and I am not) parallax is not an issue for scopes up to 10x. But I think being able to adjust a little bit of focus for mirage past 600 might have made things a little easier. I think everyone should have one of these good, basic, scopes for at least a benchmark. And I've never seen anyone break one with use. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 5:58:03 PM EDT
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They are AWESOME for tracking and ranging (within the limits of ranging with a 10x). But not mil/mil or variable. The lack of a parallax knob may or may not be an issue. According to the experts (and I am not) parallax is not an issue for scopes up to 10x. But I think being able to adjust a little bit of focus for mirage past 600 might have made things a little easier. I think everyone should have one of these good, basic, scopes for at least a benchmark. And I've never seen anyone break one with use. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bushnell Elite 10x40mm for $200 on Amazon They are AWESOME for tracking and ranging (within the limits of ranging with a 10x). But not mil/mil or variable. The lack of a parallax knob may or may not be an issue. According to the experts (and I am not) parallax is not an issue for scopes up to 10x. But I think being able to adjust a little bit of focus for mirage past 600 might have made things a little easier. I think everyone should have one of these good, basic, scopes for at least a benchmark. And I've never seen anyone break one with use. I believe Bushnell makes this scope in both 1/4 MOA turrets and 1/10 Mil turrets |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 6:14:35 PM EDT
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Bushnell Elite 10x40mm for $200 on Amazon They are AWESOME for tracking and ranging (within the limits of ranging with a 10x). But not mil/mil or variable. The lack of a parallax knob may or may not be an issue. According to the experts (and I am not) parallax is not an issue for scopes up to 10x. But I think being able to adjust a little bit of focus for mirage past 600 might have made things a little easier. I think everyone should have one of these good, basic, scopes for at least a benchmark. And I've never seen anyone break one with use. I believe Bushnell makes this scope in both 1/4 MOA turrets and 1/10 Mil turrets Yep. My mistake. I learned something new today. Thanks! |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 7:49:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now I'm checking this thing out. Anyone have reviews on the tracking and the mil measurements being correct as far ranging targets? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Bushnell Elite 10x40mm for $200 on Amazon I have the Mil/Mil version and have box tested mine several times. Right on the money every time. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 8:12:40 PM EDT
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Whatever you do, whether fixed 10x or variable 3-10x type, do not make the mistake of MOA turrets and MIL reticle. That is very confusing. You want both reticle and turrets in the same system.
A fixed 10x scope is great at distance and fixed targets when you know you will not be shooting inside of 100 yards. For closer or for moving targets, a variable will be better, more versatile, and have a wider field of view at the lower powers. Don't skimp on the glass for tacticool bells and whistles, though. Good glass and matching reticle with accurate tracking, repeatable turrets are what you seek for precision shooting. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 8:30:50 PM EDT
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I have the Mil/Mil version and have box tested mine several times. Right on the money every time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bushnell Elite 10x40mm for $200 on Amazon I have the Mil/Mil version and have box tested mine several times. Right on the money every time. I have two MOA versions and have had the same result. It is a durable scope. This pic is at 100 yards if I remember correctly, hope it helps. The orange sticker is the size of a quarter 
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Posted: 5/25/2016 12:24:48 AM EDT
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Check out Athalon Optics. I bought one and for the money they are hard to beat. They have awesome reticles.
Getting good reviews at snipers hide forum. http://www.scout.com/military/snipers-hide/forums/5511-rifle-scopes/14402673-athlon-scopes https://sportsgearoptics.com/5-rifle-scopes I bought this scope and it's a solid scope with clear glass. $299 FFP scope. Based on same scope as the Primary Arms 4-14 FFP scope. 
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Posted: 5/25/2016 10:36:03 AM EDT
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Now I'm leaning towards the SWFA SS 10x42. I like that it has the 30mm tube and parallax adjustment. Those that have one what do you like/dislike about it?
I also see they sell a 12x. Any reason to choose the 10x over the 12? https://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-10x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P53712.aspx |
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Posted: 5/25/2016 12:21:31 PM EDT
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I have a Primary Arms 4-14 and absolutely love it for my application, which is usually casual range shooting steel out to 300 yds, occasionally out to 500 and beyond.
I would not consider it a serious, long term investment for more robust, longer range use. The glass is better than most other chinese I've used, but it is a bit clunky, and the clicks are a bit mushy and inconsistent sometimes. |
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Posted: 5/25/2016 6:03:00 PM EDT
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I have two MOA versions and have had the same result. It is a durable scope. This pic is at 100 yards if I remember correctly, hope it helps. The orange sticker is the size of a quarter http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/dphill15/guns/005%202_zps8z9ywixc.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bushnell Elite 10x40mm for $200 on Amazon I have the Mil/Mil version and have box tested mine several times. Right on the money every time. I have two MOA versions and have had the same result. It is a durable scope. This pic is at 100 yards if I remember correctly, hope it helps. The orange sticker is the size of a quarter http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/dphill15/guns/005%202_zps8z9ywixc.jpg Why is the reticle so out of focus? Most pics through the eyepiece of scopes here have both a sharply focused reticle and sharply focused target. |
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Posted: 5/25/2016 6:28:32 PM EDT
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Why is the reticle so out of focus? Most pics through the eyepiece of scopes here have both a sharply focused reticle and sharply focused target. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bushnell Elite 10x40mm for $200 on Amazon I have the Mil/Mil version and have box tested mine several times. Right on the money every time. I have two MOA versions and have had the same result. It is a durable scope. This pic is at 100 yards if I remember correctly, hope it helps. The orange sticker is the size of a quarter http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/dphill15/guns/005%202_zps8z9ywixc.jpg Why is the reticle so out of focus? Most pics through the eyepiece of scopes here have both a sharply focused reticle and sharply focused target. 15 year old camera and a poor photographer 
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Posted: 5/25/2016 6:56:33 PM EDT
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A whole lotta scope for the money, frequently goes on sale for $300: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/598484/weaver-tactical-grand-slam-rifle-scope-3-10x-40mm-1-10-mil-adjustments-mil-dot-reticle-matte?cm_vc=ProductFinding This. An outstanding scope for the $299 sale price. |
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Posted: 5/25/2016 8:51:02 PM EDT
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Now I'm leaning towards the SWFA SS 10x42. I like that it has the 30mm tube and parallax adjustment. Those that have one what do you like/dislike about it? I also see they sell a 12x. Any reason to choose the 10x over the 12? https://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-10x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P53712.aspx I debated the 10x vs 12x for a while. Decided to go with 10x since its the standard as far as fixed power. So far it has worked fine up to 300 yards, and soon will try it at 600. Some claim to shoot comfortably out to 1000 with a 10x. As far as likes/dislikes - rugged and a lot of bang for the buck. Glass is good, but not as good as my Leupold (different league). Reticle is decent, but I find it somewhat faint and hard to shoot groups with. No problem if you are hitting steel. |
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Posted: 5/25/2016 9:28:59 PM EDT
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I'd get the 12x. I've got the 16x on my .308. Very pleased.
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Posted: 5/25/2016 9:43:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd get the 12x. I've got the 16x on my .308. Very pleased. I'd get the 12x as well. I have the 16x on a .308 bolt gun. Good glass and it tracks great, passes the box test with ease. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 11:34:49 AM EDT
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"Some claim to shoot comfortably out to 1000 with a 10x. "
All other things being equal I'll take glass quality over magnification at distance. A rather famous 2100yd (IIRC) shot was made with a 10x Leupold. With good glass I can see the x-ring on a 1000yd F-class target at 10x. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 3:28:02 PM EDT
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Bushnell Elite 10x40mm for $200 on Amazon I have the Mil/Mil version and have box tested mine several times. Right on the money every time. Are these made in Japan? I'm cool with Japanese glass, Chinese on the other hand 
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Posted: 5/26/2016 4:27:07 PM EDT
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Bushnell Elite 10x40mm for $200 on Amazon I have the Mil/Mil version and have box tested mine several times. Right on the money every time. Are these made in Japan? I'm cool with Japanese glass, Chinese on the other hand Japanese made. The mil/mil is a Midway exclusive. I had one for a bit. Clear and sharp little scope with a decent eye box. I will say after buying and selling this scope, I wish I would've sprung the extra change on the Midway GST mil/mil though. |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 5:30:07 PM EDT
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Bushnell Elite 10x40mm for $200 on Amazon I have the Mil/Mil version and have box tested mine several times. Right on the money every time. Are these made in Japan? I'm cool with Japanese glass, Chinese on the other hand Yes, great scope for the money. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 10:02:42 PM EDT
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Bushnell Elite 10x40mm for $200 on Amazon I have the Mil/Mil version and have box tested mine several times. Right on the money every time. Are these made in Japan? I'm cool with Japanese glass, Chinese on the other hand Yes, great scope for the money. Bastards! 
I ordered two. Sounds like plenty enough scope for my needs. |
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