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NY_drew
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Posted: 7/11/2011 12:04:07 AM
New to the AR world and i am trying to get a good long range varmit gun together. I have a upper from J&T 24inch bull i want to couple it with a quality Scope for around $400-500. I am looking at the NIKON M-223 3-12x42SF , but i would love to hear if you guys have any other suggestions . I have a NIkon Monarch on my 7mm Rem Mag A-Bolt and i have had great luck with it, so i may be bias to Nikon. My ears are open!
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Posted: 7/11/2011 3:27:00 AM
Weaver (and Nitrex if you can find them on clearance), bushnell elite make good scopes in that price range
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Posted: 7/11/2011 5:02:59 AM
I put one of these on my varmint gun... 20" HBAR FF upper from J&T.




Burris Fullfield II™ Riflescope
6.5X-20X-50mm

http://www.burrisoptics.com/fullfield1.html#65x20x


Can be had for around $400 (I ordered it from Amazon of all places).
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Posted: 7/11/2011 11:43:04 AM
I have a nikon monarch 4x16 mil dot on my predator pursuit and could not be happier with it.
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Posted: 7/11/2011 11:51:49 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-LEUPOLD-VX-3-RIFLE-SCOPE-6-5-20x40-VARMINT-66560-/310324604234?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4840c9ad4a


More than you want to spend but I can attest to the accuracy of the ranging of the reticle. Very handy vs Kentucky windage or dialing elevation up & down out on the prairie.

Give it a good look before you buy.
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Posted: 7/11/2011 11:49:03 PM
Looking into the VORTEX viper PST ... looks pretty nasty. I will have to bump up about 100 bucks but it should be worth it... what do you guys think about the Viper?
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Posted: 7/12/2011 2:35:03 AM
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Originally Posted By oldrock:
I have a nikon monarch 4x16 mil dot on my predator pursuit and could not be happier with it.


Ditto - running a Nikon Monarch 5-20X on my Stag Model 6 Super Varminter and am equally impressed.
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Posted: 7/12/2011 9:49:59 AM
i have the 5-20x42 monarch on my A-bolt and i love it. was it hard for your to find good rings that get the bell as low as possible to the gun?

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Posted: 7/12/2011 11:59:05 AM
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Originally Posted By NY_drew:
i have the 5-20x42 monarch on my A-bolt and i love it. was it hard for your to find good rings that get the bell as low as possible to the gun?


I have that scope in an M-223 mount as I wanted the 20 MOA elevation boost. I did mount my 6-24X50 Nikon Monarch in Burris Signature Zee rings (med) and it is perfect. Just above the barrel and yet enough room for the bolt to cycle on my Savage 10 FCP .308.

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Posted: 7/14/2011 12:19:54 AM
Bought the Vortex 6-24x50 viper PST.... hope i am happy with it.


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Posted: 7/14/2011 4:27:17 PM
Originally Posted By NY_drew:
Bought the Vortex 6-24x50 viper PST.... hope i am happy with it.



Cool - let us know what you think of it.

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Posted: 7/14/2011 6:10:31 PM
Originally Posted By AJE:
I put one of these on my varmint gun... 20" HBAR FF upper from J&T.

http://www.burrisoptics.com/images/ffII7_04.jpg


Burris Fullfield II™ Riflescope
6.5X-20X-50mm

http://www.burrisoptics.com/fullfield1.html#65x20x


Can be had for around $400 (I ordered it from Amazon of all places).


good glass, lousy turrets!

Burris is being left behind with there old coin slot / Hunter turret assembly. I'd bought quite a few of the Burris made Pentax Pioneers 4.5-14
on closeout from best buy's and cowboom. They are worth the $130.00 last year.

Nikon is hard to beat! Burris needs to step it up a notch or 2 IMHO! Those turrets are on there for a reason!
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Posted: 7/14/2011 11:15:30 PM
you mean the VORTEX has bad turrents? or the burris
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Posted: 7/15/2011 10:48:28 AM
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I'll be curious to hear how the vortex works and if you have a pic, I'd like to see how it looks. I've never seen any vortex scopes at the local shops so have no experience with them. I will be particularly interested to hear how well it returns to zero when using alot of clicks to dial in a particular range. That is the one thing that really impresses me with Nikon monarchs. You can click in a bunch of adjustment for different distances and is very predictable both windage and elevation.

A simple 20 round test I use for my scopes is: get a large target and shoot 5 shots at 100 yards. Then dial in 20 clicks of right and shoot a 5 shot group. Then click in 20 clicks of up and shoot a 5 shot group. Then 20 clicks of left and another 5 rounds. Then finally 20 clicks down and 5 shots. Now just look at that target and see how well your scope is set up. Simple test but will really show any weakness in the scope or the mount. BTW, I'm a big fan of those burris scope mounts. Not nearly as expensive as most others but seems very sturdy. Here is a pic of my humble varmint rig... predator pursuit with the monarch 4x16 mildot on a burris mount. I went with the smooth tops on the rings since I had no use for that tactical ring tops and they just get in the way. Rifle is way more accurate than I am.

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Posted: 7/15/2011 5:39:44 PM
Originally Posted By NY_drew:
you mean the VORTEX has bad turrents? or the burris


burris FFII. coin slots have went the way of the dinosaur IMO. Probably the best bang for the dollar knowadays is the Weaver 6.5-20x44 44/40 series scope. medium height semi target turrets, resetable for 0. about $175.00

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Posted: 7/15/2011 8:08:44 PM
cool , i will give that a try when the scope arrives, below is links of the scope i purchased and the mount i went with

http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-viper-pst-6-24x50-riflescope-with-ebr-1-mrad-reticle

http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-adr-x-cantilever-ring-mount-for-30mm-riflescope-tube-3-inch-offset


i am sure this rifle is going to drive nails.
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Posted: 7/15/2011 10:35:53 PM
Originally Posted By NY_drew:
cool , i will give that a try when the scope arrives, below is links of the scope i purchased and the mount i went with

http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-viper-pst-6-24x50-riflescope-with-ebr-1-mrad-reticle

http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-adr-x-cantilever-ring-mount-for-30mm-riflescope-tube-3-inch-offset


i am sure this rifle is going to drive nails.


ah. your good to go

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Posted: 7/15/2011 11:45:19 PM
http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/406692/211028314-475804127/LOCKING-TURRET-Red-green-illuminated-mil-dot-reticle-FLIP-UP-LENS-COVER-8-32x50-Rifle-Scope.html

LOCKING TURRET Red / green illuminated mil-dot reticle FLIP-UP LENS COVER 8-32x50 Rifle Scope FREE SHIPPING List Price: $69.99
They ship from China so it takes 2-3 weeks.
My first order was small to test the waters, but he lives up to all his positive reviews on Alibaba(Aliexpress). Buy with confidence.

I'm in no way affiliated with the seller, but the price,
even with international shipping is a steal compared to what these scopes cost,
when you can actually find them and now that my order is in, I thought I would share!
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Posted: 7/16/2011 1:08:07 AM
a 70 dollar 8-32x50 scope sounds to good to be true ha ha , i think i will stick to the vortex, quality not quanity right?
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Posted: 7/16/2011 4:06:51 PM
as soon as the scope and rings arrive i will post pics for you guys..
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Posted: 7/25/2011 1:30:51 PM
This is what i built should be able to handle anything i want to shoot

Spikes lower
Magpul PRS stock
J&T 24 inch bull upper
Daniel Defense 3inch offset cantilever mount
Vortex VIPER PST 6-24x50 EBR1 MRAD scope
harris bi pod