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Posted: 8/16/2021 8:08:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/18/2021 8:57:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLOVE THIS! |
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Posted: 8/19/2021 7:59:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/5205/Scale_Adjusted_Actual_Image_seen_TA45_an-1382011.jpg fight me. The fight ended unfavorably for you before it even began. |
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Posted: 8/19/2021 9:27:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jonny1904: I don't like unneeded extra wide field of views which is why I prefer micro dots to full size. IDGAF about motion sensor on/off. And made in China, instant disqualifier. The fight ended unfavorably for you before it even began. Agreed, but the original post was disingenuous to begin with and best ignored. If you wanted a 1.5x ACOG with a wide FOV, the TA44 has a 39ft FOV, weighs half the Primary Arms prism, is made in the US and has an actually daylight bright reticle. Instead, one of the ACOGs with the narrowest FOVs was chosen as a comparison point. There are over 200 ACOG variants that allow the consumer to select their own tradeoffs (eye-relief, weight, brightness, reticle, color etc..). The Primary Arms lineup is shallow and optimized around being low cost. I intensely dislike the Primary Arms guerilla marketing strategy of posting stuff like this on other manufacturer threads and forums and argumentative comments on YT reviewers who don't like their products. |
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Posted: 8/19/2021 11:18:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ArizonaRifleman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zcap: Agreed, but the original post was disingenuous to begin with and best ignored. If you wanted a 1.5x ACOG with a wide FOV, the TA44 has a 39ft FOV, weighs half the Primary Arms prism, is made in the US and has an actually daylight bright reticle. Instead, one of the ACOGs with the narrowest FOVs was chosen as a comparison point. There are over 200 ACOG variants that allow the consumer to select their own tradeoffs (eye-relief, weight, brightness, reticle, color etc..). The Primary Arms lineup is shallow and optimized around being low cost. I intensely dislike the Primary Arms guerilla marketing strategy of posting stuff like this on other manufacturer threads and forums and argumentative comments on YT reviewers who don't like their products. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zcap: Originally Posted By Jonny1904: I don't like unneeded extra wide field of views which is why I prefer micro dots to full size. IDGAF about motion sensor on/off. And made in China, instant disqualifier. The fight ended unfavorably for you before it even began. Agreed, but the original post was disingenuous to begin with and best ignored. If you wanted a 1.5x ACOG with a wide FOV, the TA44 has a 39ft FOV, weighs half the Primary Arms prism, is made in the US and has an actually daylight bright reticle. Instead, one of the ACOGs with the narrowest FOVs was chosen as a comparison point. There are over 200 ACOG variants that allow the consumer to select their own tradeoffs (eye-relief, weight, brightness, reticle, color etc..). The Primary Arms lineup is shallow and optimized around being low cost. I intensely dislike the Primary Arms guerilla marketing strategy of posting stuff like this on other manufacturer threads and forums and argumentative comments on YT reviewers who don't like their products. Understood, I was just being nice about it though as best as I could stomach and was saving those other well founded points in case this went stupid. didn't want to call him out but he's been actively pushing it in three different threads that I know of with himself picking a fight with a person who had legitimate complaints and calling that person out over spilt milk in a different thread, and it seemed very odd to push a PA optic trollish fight in a Trijicon only pic thread. 
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Posted: 8/19/2021 1:23:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MRW]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zcap: Agreed, but the original post was disingenuous to begin with and best ignored. If you wanted a 1.5x ACOG with a wide FOV, the TA44 has a 39ft FOV, weighs half the Primary Arms prism, is made in the US and has an actually daylight bright reticle. Instead, one of the ACOGs with the narrowest FOVs was chosen as a comparison point. There are over 200 ACOG variants that allow the consumer to select their own tradeoffs (eye-relief, weight, brightness, reticle, color etc..). The Primary Arms lineup is shallow and optimized around being low cost. I intensely dislike the Primary Arms guerilla marketing strategy of posting stuff like this on other manufacturer threads and forums and argumentative comments on YT reviewers who don't like their products. I'm not on any PA team, marketing or otherwise. I was highly critical on this board of PAs gen 1 cyclops 1x prism compared to my TA45, which is the mini ACOG that I own. PA sent me the GLx 2x for free with no obligation. I decided to compare it and the ACOG side by side and the ACOG lost hard. I switched teams. User adjustable brightness and adjustable diopter were were the primary features that won me over. ACOG has neither. The field of view was an added bonus. no adjustable brightness is a deal killer for me after using the TA45 in a match that required shooting from a dark location into bright sunlight. The reticle disappeared. here is my keychain light attempted fix, which did not work so well, that I posted earlier in this thread.  my post is as genuine as can be. send me a TA44 or whatever you'd like and I'll compare it to the PA 2x. I'll send your optic back unharmed. But you're right, this is a picture thread, and I posted the picture I needed, so I'll let it be. |
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Posted: 8/19/2021 1:45:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW: You're factually wrong. I specifically said guerilla marketing: "These methods are often low- or no-cost and involve the widespread use of more personal interactions or through viral social media messaging." Sending free items to social media members who then go out and write promotional post like this on other manufacturer forums is guerilla marketing. |
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Posted: 8/19/2021 2:08:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zcap: I specifically said guerilla marketing: "These methods are often low- or no-cost and involve the widespread use of more personal interactions or through viral social media messaging." Sending free items to social media members who then go out and write promotional post like this on other manufacturer forums is guerilla marketing. I'm in no way, shape, or form an agent of PA, marketing or otherwise. I owe them nothing. I am not being paid or otherwise compensated to promote them on arfcom. I have advocated for their product because I am personally impressed with the merits of the product, after being a vocal critic of previous products. To say that I am engaged in marketing for them is a false accusation. You are stating what you want to be true rather than what is. And by attacking the person rather than addressing the shortcomings that the ACOG has, that I pointed out with a photo, you make my point for me. The ACOG needs a serious update. The design has not changed in decades and they are being eclipsed by competitors. I still use a TA01 with an offset dot on my DM build. I'll dig out a photo of that one. |
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Posted: 8/19/2021 2:48:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW: PA sent me the GLx 2x for free with no obligation. I make no claims about how you feel about the product, or if you have any connection with Primary Arms, or as to the quality of the product in question. Do you know who footed the cost for your and others "free" PA prism? By your statement, it was PA, and it almost certainly came out of the PA marketing budget. The best guerilla marketing is done by unaffiliated parties who don't know they are doing it which is one of the reasons why it is so low cost. I am certainly not alone in becoming increasingly skeptical of PA due to forum and social media behavior of those pushing PA products, regardless of how genuine the posts are. |
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Posted: 8/19/2021 10:29:32 PM EDT
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Make another thread, please.
Post Trijicon. |
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Posted: 8/20/2021 12:23:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony: Make another thread, please. Post Trijicon. You're correct, and we bit at a shill troll's bait who wanted a fight against Trijicon users. 
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Posted: 8/20/2021 12:20:02 PM EDT
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 I just traded the SRS02. I’ll need to replace it on my Henry. Haven’t decided what I’ll use yet, but an SRO would be a good choice, IMHO.  |
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Posted: 8/20/2021 1:45:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lilMAC25]
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 KAC SR15 with TA33GH on ADM 1.93 mount. One of my favorite non NOD optics. |
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Posted: 8/21/2021 10:31:48 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2023 1:38:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2023 8:03:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:33:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: m24shooter]
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 TR25G (green German #4) in LRT SPR mount  TA45C (red triangle and post) with carry handle screw  MRO HD with lower 1/3 cowit mount  TA31F in LRT RCO mount  TA44C (red RTR reticle) with carry handle screw |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 12:03:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2023 12:19:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2023 12:20:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2023 12:21:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2023 6:06:11 PM EDT
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Old School Trijicon
    New School Trijicon    Parallax School Trijicon  ….. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 6:18:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2023 8:31:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2023 11:17:02 AM EDT
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Quote History@edwin907 every time I see one of your pics, I start listing out justifications to buy that ACOG. |
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Posted: 4/25/2023 5:54:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2023 8:24:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m24shooter: @edwin907 every time I see one of your pics, I start listing out justifications to buy that ACOG. It's not for sale. LOL It is, despite the current craze on LPVO, a very capable optic. It's only 5.5X. But what a 5.5X. I'd be willing to bet it will out resolve many of the LPVO at 6X. And color, contrast, definition would be superior too. If BAC works for you, and it's easier on the TA55 than you'd think, it is an actual option. And the eye box is fantastic. Better than fantastic. |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 2:12:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By edwin907: It's not for sale. LOL Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By edwin907: It's not for sale. LOL  It is, despite the current craze on LPVO, a very capable optic. It's only 5.5X. But what a 5.5X. I'd be willing to bet it will out resolve many of the LPVO at 6X. And color, contrast, definition would be superior too. If BAC works for you, and it's easier on the TA55 than you'd think, it is an actual option. And the eye box is fantastic. Better than fantastic. Yeah, I think you've given me the push I need. I've got several LPVOs, but I have always wanted that model of ACOG, and you've just about given me all the additional reason I need. |
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Posted: 4/27/2023 11:39:47 AM EDT
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 One of my two TA11s. I’m up to 3 ACOGs and two RMRs now. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 5:17:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/20/2023 10:12:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By windyhill: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/8698/IMG-0420__1__jpg-2822688.JPG Is that rear BUIS zeroed to that position in front? How's the sight radius with the peep that far out? I had ideas to mount a DD fixed rear in front of it like the Canadians do with their Elcans, then figured the zero would never work and I'd need all the time a screwdriver handy. I thought about using the Larue LT103 instead and it was giving me OCD issues with it being so close to the front lens. I ended up putting an RMR on top and shrugged 
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Posted: 5/20/2023 12:11:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArizonaRifleman: Is that rear BUIS zeroed to that position in front? How's the sight radius with the peep that far out? I had ideas to mount a DD fixed rear in front of it like the Canadians do with their Elcans, then figured the zero would never work and I'd need all the time a screwdriver handy. I thought about using the Larue LT103 instead and it was giving me OCD issues with it being so close to the front lens. I ended up putting an RMR on top and shrugged Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArizonaRifleman: Originally Posted By windyhill: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/8698/IMG-0420__1__jpg-2822688.JPG Is that rear BUIS zeroed to that position in front? How's the sight radius with the peep that far out? I had ideas to mount a DD fixed rear in front of it like the Canadians do with their Elcans, then figured the zero would never work and I'd need all the time a screwdriver handy. I thought about using the Larue LT103 instead and it was giving me OCD issues with it being so close to the front lens. I ended up putting an RMR on top and shrugged The 25 yard notch above the apertures works ok. Elevation is too far off for the apertures themselves to be useful. It’s not ideal, but I prefer the ta-31 back farther than a rear mounted buis will allow. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 2:31:44 PM EDT
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 TA31RCO-M150CP and TA01-NSN, both in GDI R-COM E mounts with KAC rear sights. This mount/sight combo has been the best I’ve found to allow the optic to sit back as far as possible, without extra parts or risers. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 10:48:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/11/2023 6:16:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: longhunter09]
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Posted: 8/19/2023 10:27:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/23/2023 2:42:08 AM EDT
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