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Posted: 12/28/2016 9:58:38 PM EDT
Anybody seen or have first hand experience with these?
If they are as solid as D&H AR15 mags, I'd buy a dozen in a heartbeat at $11/ea. Not sure if its that my google skills are weak or if this is a brand new product but I can't find any reviews for them. Edit: Not seeing a mention of what type of follower that is and D&H's site doesn't say anything. Link the the "specs and color sheet" is a dead link, at least on my PC. D&H site |
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I saw the email and ordered 5 before i thought to look what style ar10 they fit..... don't care at that price, i'll give them a try...... thanks for the link btw, luckily they're sr25 style. Hopefully they're as good as the .556 version, i have a ton of them.
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I bought 4 of those several months ago (2-10 round, 2-20 round). No problems at all running in my 16" PSA, or my Aero Precision 10.5" pistol build.
Sturdy, well made mags. I would get more if I had the money. |
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Don't know but, I ordered 10 last night.
If all else fails I'll use them in my Ruger PR. Says ar10 style rifles. We'll see. They also have Fed 175 and 168 grain gold medal ammo on sale 19.99 free shipping. Always better than the $27+ usually $29 a box in my lgs. |
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I have 11 of them that I use constantly. They feed well, and fit/finish is superb. A bit heavy, but I prefer them to Magpul since I got used to them. I'm definitely buying more. The hostile environment finish on them reminds me of black T... definitely doesn't seem like just bluing.
EDIT: The ones I have are the STEEL D&H mags. Never seen the aluminum ones before. Weird. |
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This is relevant to my interests... are these the same spec as SR-25 type magazines? If so I may need to get some!
EDIT: Nevermind, just saw above post indicating they're SR-25 pattern. Got four of 'em. We'll see how they do! |
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Guys at PSA spoke highly of these mags...Evidently they (the aluminum mags) are being produced only for PSA. For the price, they can't be beat. PSA should also be getting some of the steel mags in a few months.
One of the guys told me the magazines will PROPERLY feed the 6.5 Creedmore with only a follower change (I guess the followers will be available some time in the future). |
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Just for the record, these are steel not aluminum. Use a magnet to test if you need to but the ones shown in the pictures and are shipping are steel. I just got some, very nice looking but defiantly steel.
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Just for the record, these are steel not aluminum. Use a magnet to test if you need to but the ones shown in the pictures and are shipping are steel. I just got some, very nice looking but defiantly steel. View Quote I received my first batch mid week, just got around to taking a closer look at them. I can confirm the 5 i received are steel bodied. And just for the record, when empty, lock up and drop free easily from my Remington R-25(Dpms produced). Empty mags also catch the bolt hold open. I used 2 boxes of ZQI to load up two mags, and getting all 20 in was a bit of bear, but they do hold a full 20. I released the bolt, and it took 2 slams from the bolt carrier to force the first round out of the mag. Springs are very stiff. 2 mags did the same thing. The mag release button would not budge on the full mags with bolt closed. I had to charge that first round to get the mag to drop. It's 20 degrees max all weekend, so I'm gonna leave 2 fully loaded till next weekend and test fire. Brand new mags being stiff isn't anything new, as long as they function 100 percent after that first round is stripped, or 100 percent with 19 loaded is ok with me also... I plan to order more.... But will wait till next weekend to test a little more. Visually, they look like a quality made magazine, just like the pictures above..... And price from PSA is outstanding!! |
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Interesting. I'll admit, I prefer the original D&H steel mag look (and perfect function), but these will be fine by me if they function just as well.
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So I take it you cannot insert a fully loaded 20 rounder under a closed bolt?
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Thanks for the comparison. That has been my experience with the Brownells mags as well- file 0.1" off the bottom of the follower and they function perfectly with 20.
I will add that Larue mags hold 20 and insert just fine with a closed bolt. $80 though. It is just irritating that manufacturers cannot seem to make a 20 round mag seat when full. (Except magpul and Larue in my experience) |
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Wow, can't believe this thread is still alive. Very pleasant surprise.
Im trying to sell my PWS MK220 right now. If I can't get it sold I guess Ill add a few of these D&H's to the safe. Thanks for all the input everybody |
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Thanks for the comparison. That has been my experience with the Brownells mags as well- file 0.1" off the bottom of the follower and they function perfectly with 20. I will add that Larue mags hold 20 and insert just fine with a closed bolt. $80 though. It is just irritating that manufacturers cannot seem to make a 20 round mag seat when full. (Except magpul and Larue in my experience) View Quote The D&H steel magazines (the cool original ones) held 20 and lock in on a closed bolt easily. |
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Got my four 20s in. Can confirm they are steel, not the aluminum PSA advertises. A bit heavier, and magnets snap right onto them. They're almost exactly like the KAC steel 20s (albeit you can get 10 for the price of 1 KAC mag)
Gotta say the not loading on a closed bolt has to be you guys' guns though. They insert with a full load of 20 almost effortlessly in my Colt 901 and strip rounds with no issues. Overall feel nice and solid and look well made just like my D&H 5.56 mags. Will definitely stock up on more of these in the future. EDIT: It's gotta be the ammo casings. Loaded three magazines with 20 rounds each of Winchester PDX1, Federal/Lake City XM80, and Federal Gold Medal Match 168gr. PDX1 and XM80 insert on a closed bolt no fuss. FGMM will not lock in unless I give it a hard shove. Changed which magazines hold which and the insertion issue follows the FGMM. It will still insert, but I have to either push hard or give it a good smack to make it seat. PDX1 and XM80 insert on a closed bolt every bit as easily as my L7 AWMs, which is to say quite easy. FGMM still strips perfectly though when loading. |
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Good old D&H USGI style metal mags. Performed multiple drop tests of a fully loaded mag.
Result: A bit of cosmetic damage only. Happily, tied my L7 AWMs and outperformed my PMAGs in that I got no ejected rounds. Also purposefully tried to get rounds to nosedive by pressing on them at various loads, they stay up. All that's left is a range test, but these seem GTG. |
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Follow up and some gun porn. D&H's fired flawlessly today with a 19 round ZQI load and multiple 5 at a time loads for shot groups with hand loads. I'm happy, will be buying more. http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae317/Remy25/IMG_0872.jpg View Quote SO do they only load 19, or are you just downloading? |
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SO do they only load 19, or are you just downloading? View Quote I was trying to keep it short and sweet above. I had 20 rounds loaded into both mags I took to the range that day, but there seemed to be no difference after leaving them loaded for a week. Pressing down as hard as I could on the 20th round, I could barely see any separation between the feed lip and the top round. If you have a new pmag, load 20 and press the top round down. With the one I tried there was probably 1/8 inch separation. it's a pretty large difference. I'm not a youtube product tester, I have already twice now slammed the bolt into the top round multiple times to get it to strip and go into battery. I don't see any point in continuing that. So I emptied one mag completely and stripped the 20th round out of the second, and semi rapid fire shot that ZQI garbage through the rifle... No hang ups of any kind. 19 rounds of ZQI fired straight thru and 35 rounds of 175gr SMK handloads fed 5 at a time. Around 8 years ago when I bought my 308, it seemed like a lot bigger issue, since there were only a few companies making sr25/dpms pattern mags, and they were expensive and hard to get. Iirc DPMS only claimed 19 from the start, but cproducts claimed 20 and most people including myself could only get 19 to feed reliably. Now if you want a 20 round mag, buy PMAG, Lancer or IMI. FWIW though, saving $10 per mag from what I can buy PMAG's for locally or even $6-7 online pre shipping and handling is worth it to lose one round and have reliable 19 round magazines. And to be fair to PSA and D&H, I ordered minutes after I read the email the same day they sent it out. So maybe I just got a fluke early production batch. A mass of information is always best to go by. If 10-20 people report loading and firing 20 with no problems, it's probably just a slip up in QC that i can live with. I have 5 more on the way, if there is a difference, I will report here. |
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FWIW though, saving $10 per mag from what I can buy PMAG's for locally or even $6-7 online pre shipping and handling is worth it to lose one round and have reliable 19 round magazines. And to be fair to PSA and D&H, I ordered minutes after I read the email the same day they sent it out. So maybe I just got a fluke early production batch. A mass of information is always best to go by. If 10-20 people report loading and firing 20 with no problems, it's probably just a slip up in QC that i can live with. I have 5 more on the way, if there is a difference, I will report here. View Quote It could also be they behave more with my oddball BCG. Like the rest of the rifle, the 901's BCG is not a true AR-10 BCG but rather a hybrid between an AR-10 and AR-15 to facilitate being able to shoot both 7.62 and 5.56 with the same lower. The front half should be all AR-10 though, but there might be some dimensional differences I'm not aware of that play nicer with springs that have less play when fully loaded, thus my not having issues loading the full 20. Have to get more feedback from others. I will be seeing my cousin this weekend who has an SR-25 APC and we're going shooting. I'll see how the D&H mags work with his. |
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They're SR-25 pattern (which would be DPMS compatible). As far as I can tell they're a carbon copy of the steel KAC SR-25 mags dimensionally. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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SO these are DPMS pattern .308 mags and not AR-10 mags? They're SR-25 pattern (which would be DPMS compatible). As far as I can tell they're a carbon copy of the steel KAC SR-25 mags dimensionally. Thanks. |
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Update: These mags absolutely will not insert into an SR-25 without downloading to 19. Not even with a forceful shove. Looks like my 901 is the oddball in that 20 inserts just fine.
The magazine bodies may be a carbon copy of the KAC mags, but clearly the springs don't compress as much or the follower is taller, or something. |
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Update #2 after hitting the range yesterday with both my cousin's KAC SR-25, my Colt 901, and both KAC steel mags and PSA/D&H steel mags:
Actually no different at all from the KAC mags. They won't insert into an SR-25 on a closed bolt either with a full load of 20. Have to be either open bolt, or down loaded to 19. Then they work flawlessly. 901's BCG appears to be just oddball enough that it can take both the KAC mags and the D&H mags bolt closed loaded to a full 20, and functioned flawlessly with both in all scenarios. |
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Widener's has it on special for $5.95 in email today. Ordered bunch, I hope they are good!
https://www.wideners.com/accessories/magazines-and-loaders/d-h-magazines?utm_source=Widener's+Specials&utm_campaign=b9866394fe-NL_2_16_17_6%3A45pm_re&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4dbd7b7ce3-b9866394fe-66477845#d-h-industries-sr-25-magazine-308-20-round-black-steel |
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