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Posted: 4/7/2016 3:40:37 PM EDT
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For a good quality magazine, I find the PMAGS are as good as any of the poly magazines, no reason to change if you already have them, I have Troy, PMag, Aluminum and they all run fine in my guns.
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Posted: 4/7/2016 3:51:04 PM EDT
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Hex Mags are quite good and are pretty unique looking. Also nice if you plan color coding your mags for different purposes. Magpul really is the standard though; their older gens are super cheap too.
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Posted: 4/7/2016 4:07:07 PM EDT
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Hex Mags are quite good and are pretty unique looking. Also nice if you plan color coding your mags for different purposes. Magpul really is the standard though; their older gens are super cheap too. Any quality differences between the older Pmags and the newer generations? |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 4:30:19 PM EDT
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Lancer AWM
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Posted: 4/7/2016 4:31:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any quality differences between the older Pmags and the newer generations? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hex Mags are quite good and are pretty unique looking. Also nice if you plan color coding your mags for different purposes. Magpul really is the standard though; their older gens are super cheap too. Any quality differences between the older Pmags and the newer generations? Once you figure it out, it's a breeze. The magwell interference was more annoying than it was a major issue. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 4:32:56 PM EDT
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Lancer AWM These are the best of both worlds. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 6:09:27 PM EDT
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ETS
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Posted: 4/7/2016 7:50:35 PM EDT
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I have and use Pmags with no problems. I also use, Lancer, ETS, and Tango Down MK2 mags and have had no problems with these either..
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Posted: 4/7/2016 7:58:16 PM EDT
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ETS Came here to say this... |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 11:10:26 PM EDT
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I love both PMAGs and Lancers. I prefer M2s since you can clip the impact covers on the bottom, better than spending the extra dollars on Ranger plates IMO.
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Posted: 4/8/2016 1:02:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lancer AWM |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 1:23:43 AM EDT
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I love both PMAGs and Lancers. I prefer M2s since you can clip the impact covers on the bottom, better than spending the extra dollars on Ranger plates IMO. It was my understanding that M2s no longer come with impact/dust covers. Only M3s. Although the covers are still much less expensive. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 1:42:08 AM EDT
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A few guys I know use ETS. They love them.
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Posted: 4/8/2016 9:15:53 AM EDT
[#14]
Lancer and ETS also been great for me.
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Posted: 4/8/2016 9:56:52 AM EDT
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The question...."Polymer Mags as good, or better than Pmags"?
Pmags ARE polymer! Plastics are manufactured using polymers. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 11:11:22 AM EDT
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The question...."Polymer Mags as good, or better than Pmags"? Pmags ARE polymer! Plastics are manufactured using polymers. I am aware of that. Thank you. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 8:11:40 PM EDT
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It was my understanding that M2s no longer come with impact/dust covers. Only M3s. Although the covers are still much less expensive. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I love both PMAGs and Lancers. I prefer M2s since you can clip the impact covers on the bottom, better than spending the extra dollars on Ranger plates IMO. It was my understanding that M2s no longer come with impact/dust covers. Only M3s. Although the covers are still much less expensive. All my M2 PMAGs were purchased before the M3s came out. I am disappointed that new M2s longer come with them and that M3s cant have them snapped to the bottom. Also not big on black and sand color only options, otherwise I did get 6 M3s to test out, haven't had the chance to yet. |
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Posted: 4/9/2016 9:48:59 AM EDT
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i picked up 4 MFT mags last october on a visit to Palmetto State Armory's Greenville store and have been using them more than my pile of surplus GI or Pmags. ive since picked up 4 more. i also have 6 thermold mags that i, and my family has used since the early 90s with NO problems what so ever...
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Posted: 4/9/2016 10:05:54 AM EDT
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Lancer and ETS have both been pretty good. Troy have never failed for me but the other mags can usually be found cheaper and I personally would trust them more.
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Posted: 4/9/2016 11:35:45 AM EDT
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Back during the AWB in 94 a bunch of Israeli Orlite mags were imported and sold cheap when no other standard capacity mags were for sale. I bought about a dozen of the Orlite which were ex IDF mags and many had started to spread apart near the feed lips (will loose rounds if dropped). I also bought a couple new Orlites which weren't to bad but in no way are they the quality of PMags. I also have a few Thermold 30 rounders which were supposedly used by the Canadian armed forces. I would not recommend either today but thses were on the market years before the Magpuls were released. Not all polymer, steel or aluminum mags are created equal, buyer be ware. My primary go to mags today are NHMTG, Brownell's, Colt and gen 3 PMags.
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Posted: 4/9/2016 12:04:51 PM EDT
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The question...."Polymer Mags as good, or better than Pmags"? Pmags ARE polymer! Plastics are manufactured using polymers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The question...."Polymer Mags as good, or better than Pmags"? Pmags ARE polymer! Plastics are manufactured using polymers. Is there a reason you removed the OP's own words? I'm wondering what other brands of polymer mags are as good and reliable as Pmags my Pmags never disappoint, but I only buy Lancers now. |
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Posted: 4/9/2016 12:08:20 PM EDT
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The question...."Polymer Mags as good, or better than Pmags"? Pmags ARE polymer! Plastics are manufactured using polymers. I suspect the question meant was Are there any other "Polymer Mags as good, or better than Pmags"?; not Are "Polymer Mags as good, or better than Pmags"? |
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Posted: 4/9/2016 12:21:43 PM EDT
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I suspect the question meant was Are there any other "Polymer Mags as good, or better than Pmags"?; not Are "Polymer Mags as good, or better than Pmags"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The question...."Polymer Mags as good, or better than Pmags"? Pmags ARE polymer! Plastics are manufactured using polymers. I suspect the question meant was Are there any other "Polymer Mags as good, or better than Pmags"?; not Are "Polymer Mags as good, or better than Pmags"? That's correct. |
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Posted: 4/9/2016 6:17:27 PM EDT
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Lancers.
They take one hell of a beating and keep on working |
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Posted: 4/9/2016 9:11:25 PM EDT
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Another vote for Lancer.
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Posted: 4/9/2016 9:16:59 PM EDT
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In my opinion, Lancers are the best and well worth the small premium.
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Posted: 4/10/2016 10:39:56 AM EDT
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In my opinion, Lancers are the best and well worth the small premium. This is where I'm at. We have a good supply of Lancers for our "social" needs. Pmags and D&H for stockpiling. For training / range use, well used G.I. mags of different flavors that I got cheap. |
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Posted: 4/10/2016 12:15:26 PM EDT
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Lancer AWMs and USGI are the only mags I will buy from now on. Metal feed lips for the win.
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Posted: 4/10/2016 1:43:21 PM EDT
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Have a ton of Pmags, a half dozen lancers and a half dozen ETS mags.
With that said, ETS mags are what I will be buying from now on... |
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Posted: 4/10/2016 2:54:21 PM EDT
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In my opinion, Lancers are the best and well worth the small premium. This. Although I use Pmags & USGI for range use. Tomac |
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Posted: 4/11/2016 9:28:59 PM EDT
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Once I learned how to modify the Lancers so that a full magazine seats easily with a closed bolt, LANCERS.
(File down the post on the floor plate) But USGI and PMags have never let me down either. |
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Posted: 4/11/2016 10:33:35 PM EDT
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Once I learned how to modify the Lancers so that a full magazine seats easily with a closed bolt, LANCERS. (File down the post on the floor plate) But USGI and PMags have never let me down either. That is weird, my Lancers will seat fully loaded without an issue, and I have 4 of the 1st gen ones and 2 AWMs, unmodified (Need to stock up but opaque smoke AWMs seem to be out of stock everywhere...) |
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Posted: 4/12/2016 1:28:38 AM EDT
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That is weird, my Lancers will seat fully loaded without an issue, and I have 4 of the 1st gen ones and 2 AWMs, unmodified (Need to stock up but opaque AWMs seem to be out of stock everywhere...) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Once I learned how to modify the Lancers so that a full magazine seats easily with a closed bolt, LANCERS. (File down the post on the floor plate) But USGI and PMags have never let me down either. That is weird, my Lancers will seat fully loaded without an issue, and I have 4 of the 1st gen ones and 2 AWMs, unmodified (Need to stock up but opaque AWMs seem to be out of stock everywhere...) https://www.pegasusdefense.com/store/products/143 $12.95 for opaque black. Shipping is $8.50 but if you spend $200 (at least 16 mags) then you get $8.50 "Promo Savings" |
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Posted: 4/12/2016 1:50:43 AM EDT
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Lancer AWM This |
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Posted: 4/12/2016 12:38:53 PM EDT
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https://www.pegasusdefense.com/store/products/143 $12.95 for opaque black. Shipping is $8.50 but if you spend $200 (at least 16 mags) then you get $8.50 "Promo Savings" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Once I learned how to modify the Lancers so that a full magazine seats easily with a closed bolt, LANCERS. (File down the post on the floor plate) But USGI and PMags have never let me down either. That is weird, my Lancers will seat fully loaded without an issue, and I have 4 of the 1st gen ones and 2 AWMs, unmodified (Need to stock up but opaque AWMs seem to be out of stock everywhere...) https://www.pegasusdefense.com/store/products/143 $12.95 for opaque black. Shipping is $8.50 but if you spend $200 (at least 16 mags) then you get $8.50 "Promo Savings" I meant translucent smoke, not opaque but that looks like a great deal, thank you! |
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Posted: 4/12/2016 6:29:27 PM EDT
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I'm new to AR's, so be gentle with me... I've got several Pmags and I like them quite a bit. I'm wondering what other brands of polymer mags are as good and reliable as Pmags. "good and reliable" is a rather vague term which will invoke some very subjective answers. It is our view that magazine reliability comes from specific geometry that is consistently maintained by high "tensile" strength material. There are few tests out there that are as good as long term combat deployments to vet something such as a magazine. A review of what is used and accepted Iraq and Afghanistan gives a good idea of where magazines stack up in real world durability/functionally. In the last 8 years of various combat operations the most utilized polymer magazine for the M4 is by far the M2 PMag (window and non window). It's followed by the M3 PMag (which was introduced about 4 years ago). After this is the EMag (Euro version of the PMag issued to all deployed UK troops since 2011 and various US Military units using the HK416) These three magazine designs make up over 95% of polymer mag usage overseas with their next distant competitor being a foreign made version very similar to the PMag design. I know this information might not help answer your original question, but the lack of an answer is an answer in itself. |
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Posted: 4/12/2016 8:44:50 PM EDT
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"good and reliable" is a rather vague term which will invoke some very subjective answers. It is our view that magazine reliability comes from specific geometry that is consistently maintained by high "tensile" strength material. There are few tests out there that are as good as long term combat deployments to vet something such as a magazine. A review of what is used and accepted Iraq and Afghanistan gives a good idea of where magazines stack up in real world durability/functionally. In the last 8 years of various combat operations the most utilized polymer magazine for the M4 is by far the M2 PMag (window and non window). It's followed by the M3 PMag (which was introduced about 4 years ago). After this is the EMag (Euro version of the PMag issued to all deployed UK troops since 2011 and various US Military units using the HK416) These three magazine designs make up over 95% of polymer mag usage overseas with their next distant competitor being a foreign made version very similar to the PMag design. I know this information might not help answer your original question, but the lack of an answer is an answer in itself. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm new to AR's, so be gentle with me... I've got several Pmags and I like them quite a bit. I'm wondering what other brands of polymer mags are as good and reliable as Pmags. "good and reliable" is a rather vague term which will invoke some very subjective answers. It is our view that magazine reliability comes from specific geometry that is consistently maintained by high "tensile" strength material. There are few tests out there that are as good as long term combat deployments to vet something such as a magazine. A review of what is used and accepted Iraq and Afghanistan gives a good idea of where magazines stack up in real world durability/functionally. In the last 8 years of various combat operations the most utilized polymer magazine for the M4 is by far the M2 PMag (window and non window). It's followed by the M3 PMag (which was introduced about 4 years ago). After this is the EMag (Euro version of the PMag issued to all deployed UK troops since 2011 and various US Military units using the HK416) These three magazine designs make up over 95% of polymer mag usage overseas with their next distant competitor being a foreign made version very similar to the PMag design. I know this information might not help answer your original question, but the lack of an answer is an answer in itself. Thanks. Very interesting. Right now I have a small mix of Pmags and D&H mags. I may just stock up on a few more Pmags along with a few Lancers and ETS.. |
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Posted: 4/14/2016 12:35:33 AM EDT
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ETS. Just as strong if not stronger than any polymer counterparts and no worries about rust. Plus you can buy the version with built in coupler if that's your thing.
They are pretty much all I buy now. Just wish they'd make them for the M&P. Who cares about Glock?! Heh |
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Posted: 4/14/2016 12:47:41 PM EDT
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PMags are fine mags and will serve you for life. There is no need to replace you PMags. Going forward, I would suggest getting ETS mags and Lancer mags instead though. The clear body construction makes for a better user experience. My favorite are Lancers, but the translucent Lancers are overpriced, and I consider the ETS mags the better value. I have 0 interest in Opaque Lancers.
I also suggest getting about 4 or 5 clear 20's. I think Lancer is the only one making such, though ETS is working on it. |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 12:00:38 PM EDT
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ETS. Just as strong if not stronger than any polymer counterparts and no worries about rust. Lots of steel in an M16 so if you are truly worried about rust you are SOL. There are more important things to worry about.... |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 4:46:47 PM EDT
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ETS. Just as strong if not stronger than any polymer counterparts and no worries about rust. Plus you can buy the version with built in coupler if that's your thing. They are pretty much all I buy now. Just wish they'd make them for the M&P. Who cares about Glock?! Heh U.S.G.I. magazines are aluminum, aluminum doesn't rust! |
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Posted: 4/15/2016 5:25:37 PM EDT
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U.S.G.I. magazines are aluminum, aluminum doesn't rust! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ETS. Just as strong if not stronger than any polymer counterparts and no worries about rust. Plus you can buy the version with built in coupler if that's your thing. They are pretty much all I buy now. Just wish they'd make them for the M&P. Who cares about Glock?! Heh U.S.G.I. magazines are aluminum, aluminum doesn't rust! I think he was comparing our feedlips to the non-stainless lips on Lancer, not anything to do with a USGI... |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 11:29:26 AM EDT
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These are the best of both worlds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lancer AWM These are the best of both worlds. This, Lancer combines the best of USGI and polymer with anti-tilt. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 8:12:52 PM EDT
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I bought 11 Lancers in FDE from DSG Arms, and they look and feel great. Also bought 10 D&H mags from Palmetto Armory. We'll see how good they are.
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Posted: 4/25/2016 6:58:37 PM EDT
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+1 for Lancer, wish they make some for CZ scorpion Evo 3 though.
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Posted: 4/27/2016 5:56:24 AM EDT
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I have a bunch of ETS and Lancer mags. The ETS are the ones that go to the range with me now.
Pmags will be used as trading stock for any "panic" in the future. |
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Posted: 4/28/2016 8:59:52 AM EDT
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I think he was comparing our feedlips to the non-stainless lips on Lancer, not anything to do with a USGI... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ETS. Just as strong if not stronger than any polymer counterparts and no worries about rust. Plus you can buy the version with built in coupler if that's your thing. They are pretty much all I buy now. Just wish they'd make them for the M&P. Who cares about Glock?! Heh U.S.G.I. magazines are aluminum, aluminum doesn't rust! I think he was comparing our feedlips to the non-stainless lips on Lancer, not anything to do with a USGI... Yup. |
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Posted: 5/6/2016 6:23:49 PM EDT
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Pmag and smoked Lancer are both my favorites. If the Lancer was just a hair cheaper it would get the nod only because I like the smoked mags so much. Pmags are hard to beat though.
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Posted: 5/6/2016 11:00:18 PM EDT
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I have 70 or 80 P-mags and love them. A few are Gen 1 but most are Gen 2. They all work very well.
I really like Lancers too. I want to buy a few more just to have them long term. Once I find a good deal or free shipping I'll have to jump on them. |
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Posted: 5/7/2016 10:04:32 PM EDT
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but the lack of an answer is an answer in itself. It makes sense that you would be a fan of your own product, but you must have missed the several rexommendations for the Lancer L5 AWM. I own and use both, but if I could only keep one it would be the Lancer L5 AWM. It is the best of both worlds: polymer body and steel feed lips. I will absolutely concede the point that the Magpul PMag is an excellent performer at a lower price, though. |
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