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The assumptions you make on plastic are based on past technologies, which is understandable. Let's talk specifically about what has been the Achilles heel of clear plastics in the past as it relates to AR mags. Most of the limitations on clear polymers are in 2 main areas. First is high temps. Most clear plastics have a fairly low melting point, plus since you aren't able to add glass (if you want it to remain clear), there really isn't a good way to up that melting point. We tested our plastic in heat cycles up to 300F and back down to 73F 10,000 times and the material retained over 90% of it's mechanical properties.

Bottom line,  our plastic won't melt until over 700F, which is easily hotter than most grades of nylon (most commonly used for poly mags). If our mag fails due to heat, you have other problems to worry about because you can't store ammo at those temps.

The second issue is creep. Since most clear polymers are amorphous they don't do very well when it comes to creep. As far as creep is concerned, this is one of the areas that makes our material is really special, it breaks all the normal rules of clear plastics and does very well in creep testing. We have a batch of mags that have been sitting fully loaded for over a year now and they have not spread even .001".

The preconceived perception you have is for the most part right, but people need to realize that as time goes on, technology grows at an amazing pace. In 10 years from now we will have materials that blow our minds compared to what is available now. Our family of polymer is very new technology. I know there will be people out there thinking that our claims are exaggerated, or are even lies. But I assure, they are not. We have spent a ton of time and money testing and developing these magazines. We actually spent over a year and a half before our first mag was sold. We did not just make another mag and rush it to the market. We set out with very specific goals we wanted to achieve as far as durability and reliability. We have met or even exceeded all of those goals.

I remember when plastic mags first came to market, even when Pmags hit the market and so many people kept saying that metal will always beat a plastic mag. Magpul proved that their mag is tougher than a GI mag in almost every way. I know it will take time, but there will come a day when people have even higher expectations as to what an AR mag is capable of surviving because our mags are the next level as far as toughness and durability is concerned.

I encourage everyone out there who is on the fence about our mags to just give them a try. If you aren't satisfied, or you they don't last for you, we will take them back. All we ask is that you guys keep an open mind as far as what is possible with these mags. Because you never know when you will find your newest favorite piece of equipment.

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Sorry you are having trouble.

That is definitely  weird. There is nothing in the mag that should have worn out in 2000 rounds. Do me a favor, take it apart and clean it. If it still continues to malfunction please let us know so we can replace it.

We have several mags with over 6000 rounds through them, so we know this should not be happening.

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It's a good idea. We will take a look at that for a future gen.

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Yes, sounds good. I would like to see what you come up with. Looking forward to it.

Once again, everyone on this forum has such a great attitude. We are proud to be a part of it!

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It's a good idea. We will take a look at that for a future gen.

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It really sounds to me like those followers are out of spec. Perhaps some flashing on the front parting line? Either way, we will replace the mags, but of course we want to get to the bottom of this so we can prevent these from making it out of the factory in the future.

It was great talking to you over the phone, it's always a pleasure to talk with an avid and experienced shooter.

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Great, I look forward to hearing what you find out on Sunday. When we replace your mags or followers (whatever is needed) we can get you a couple more for your trouble.

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It's not stupid at all. I'm sure the problem you guys had with our mags was due to a tiny amount of flashing on the follower that cause a bit too much friction. Once it was worked a bit, I'm sure it went away. IF you need any replaced let me know. We have since taken steps to make sure ones like these don't make it out of the factory.

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I posted this response in our other thread in the new products section, but I felt it was a good idea to post it here also.



Yes we settled with Magpul.

To give a little info regarding the suit: among other things, Magpul's patents state that the mag has a follower with a front and back leg wherein the legs limit tilt of the follower within the housing. We designed our follower to control its tilt with the front leg only. Our back leg was simply there as a spring guide. Because of this, we thought we hadn't violated their patents. However, we became aware of another patent witch states the follower has a back and front leg, it makes no mention of those legs controlling tilt within the housing. So as soon as we became aware of this, we agreed to remove our back leg altogether. It does not affect the performance of our no tilt follower or any other function of the mag since we built in a spring guide on our floor plate insert.

All said, we have reached an agreement, It is settled, and our mags performance has not been affected.

We want to be clear in saying that when we designed our mag we absolutely did not copy Magpul in any way, as evidenced by the fact that we just removed the back leg on our follower and the performance was not affected. We spent a year and a half designing, testing, tweaking, and perfecting our revolutionary mag to get it ready for market. Here is a list of features that separates our mag from a pmag:
1. material (obviously our translucent material is not even close to the material used in a Pmag especially in impact resistance)
2. completely integrated coupler
3. super easy dis-assembly
4. our specially designed grip ribs on the mag housing
5. the grip rib on the floor plate to aid in pulling mags from pouches
6. RRS (Rapid Recognition System) colored follower and base insert


We will continue to make the most advanced and durable AR mags that money can buy.

Thanks to everyone who has supported us through this process. It is much appreciated.

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That's a good question. In the future we plan on making a slim model with no ribs and a slimmer floorplate for those who want an over all slimmer package.