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Posted: 8/10/2012 4:34:15 PM
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I decided to do an assorted magazine "shoot off".

I ordered an assortment of different mags from MidwayUSA, I only ordered solid black to be fair across the board.
Different mfg's had offered to send me mags to test, but I figured I'd just buy my own so there was no favoritism.

The test specimens.





Unboxing them.



The Troy Battle Mag, first thing I did was pop the tab thing out and put the flat one in.



The TangoDown ARC MK2 mag.



The Pmag, since magpul hasn't released their newest mag I can't test it, so this is what I used.
I am not using the dust cover for any of these tests.



The Lancer L5 AWM.



The Tapco Intrafuse mag.



The Tan Follower GI mag.



And the Green Follower GI mag.



So Left to Right, Troy, TangoDown, Pmag, Lancer, Tapco, Tan GI, and Green GI.











I used my SR-15 as the host gun for the mag well fitting, all dropped free empty..

Troy


TangoDown


Pmag


Lancer


Tapco


Tan GI


Green GI



I plan on testing them all with a wide variety of ammunition.
I will be using IMI 5.56 M855 for the first function test.


Troy


TangoDown


Pmag


Lancer


Tapco


Tan GI


Green GI



Off to the range we go...


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Posted: 8/10/2012 4:34:30 PM
Its a beautiful day at the range for testing.


I am using IMI M855 for the live ammo test.



All mags are loaded with a StripLula, making loading very easy.



210 rounds ready.



The tarp so I don't have to fish brass out of the grass, as I shot I just tossed the mags onto the tarp.





Well that was boring, all functioned just fine.



So lets mix things up a little, we'll try blanks and see how the feed.



The host gun this time is an A4 clone.



StripLula FTW!



Let the test begin.



All was well until the Tapco mag, it just nosed dived the round into the barrel extension.



Only the Right side jammed.



Did it three times out of 30.



The rest of the mags worked no problem.



Things started to get a little carboned up with all these blanks.











The mags are pretty dirty and full of carbon.


How are we going to clean that off...?
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Posted: 8/10/2012 4:37:50 PM
Since the mags are covered in carbon, what better thing to remove it than Carbon Removing Compound?





The mags in the soaking tank.



All filled up.



Who knew mags floated?



Sitting on the back deck for a soak.



I'll check back later...


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Posted: 8/10/2012 5:22:06 PM
I would have liked to see how the usually trash talked thermold held up.
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Posted: 8/10/2012 6:46:15 PM
Originally Posted By rx7dryver:
I would have liked to see how the usually trash talked thermold held up.


I knew I forgot one...

I'll add it to the next test.
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Posted: 8/10/2012 7:42:07 PM
Keep up the good work
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Posted: 8/10/2012 7:48:16 PM
dude nice text. whats your fav?
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Posted: 8/10/2012 9:28:22 PM
Thanks for doing this. I am truly interested in this thread. My earlier comment was not meant to be critical but I am truly curious how a thermold would hold up as most people turn their noses up to them when compared to every other mag in this thread.
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Posted: 8/10/2012 9:50:50 PM
Very interesting. Thanks for doing the testing.

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Posted: 8/10/2012 10:01:42 PM
I completly forgot about Thermolds, I just checked gander mtn and they don't carry them.
I'll try to swing by fleet farm tomorrow and see what they have.

Anyways, I tucked them in for the night like I "forgot" to take them out of the parts washer.


We will see what tomorrow brings...
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Posted: 8/11/2012 10:38:27 AM
Sun is shining, its looking to be a good day.

Mags are still sitting in the jar.



My plan is to take them out, see how well they drain, and wipe them off.



They look fine from here.



Troy first, drains from the three small holes.


Right away I noticed the base plate is "softer" than when I put it in, also turned grey.


Follower looks like it sits higher than normal, but thats the way it is.





TangoDown, it does not drain.


Have to turn it upside down to drain, follower has giant holes so it drains fast.




TangoDown, nothing changed.



Pmag drains pretty fast from the rear of the baseplate.


Pmag, nothing changed.



Lancer barely drains from the bottom.


Lancer drains fast from the top.


Lancer remains unchanged.


Except for this little purple thing...


Don't know what that is...



Tapco doesn't drain.


But it drians from the follower pretty good.


Tapco nothing changed.


Green GI mag drains from the floor plate.


Green GI nothing changed.


Tan GI drains from the floor plate.


Tan GI nothing changed.





I am going to let them drip/sun dry and check back later.





Nothing nasty left in the solution.

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Posted: 8/11/2012 2:43:57 PM
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The mags dried most the morning, so now it's time to go shoot them.



Here we are again at the range.



Mags, all cleaned up from last nights soaking.



Loading with IMI M855.



Again thank goodness for the StripLula.



This time I'll do a drop test...


And here it goes:



These are the results, most the feed lips look ok.


Since I read on here about everyone using motor oil to lube their BCG, I decided I'd try it.





Everything was fine until the very end, all the plastic mags worked great.
The only stoppage was the green follower GI mag.


The last two rounds had a bolt over malfunction, not sure how that happened...


...because the bolt didn't lock back and the follower was all jacked up.




So other than the green GI mag giving me a fit at the end, everything went well.



But now the mags are all dirty again...


I'll be cleaning my bore with this so I have to be careful.


Don't want to get any on the mags, might be bad for them...


Oops.


Well since they are in there, let's see what happens overnight.


Soaking in RBC for the night.


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Posted: 8/11/2012 3:08:02 PM
thanks for the thread..Tag for outcome
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Posted: 8/11/2012 3:20:27 PM
Please go on!

Great Work!

Wish you had tested a GI mag with Magpul follower, too!

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Posted: 8/11/2012 10:25:22 PM
The RBC is darker than the carbon removing compound so it was hard to get a picture.

But here they sit, waiting for the sun to come up.
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Posted: 8/11/2012 10:52:24 PM
Subscribed - I will check back tomorrow. Thanks for the effort.
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Posted: 8/12/2012 5:53:57 AM
Nice thread, but your pics and captions aren't even close to matching up.
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Posted: 8/12/2012 9:36:28 AM
I find this thread very interesting....
Thanks OP for doing this test it is appreciated.
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Posted: 8/12/2012 12:35:13 PM
I am really enjoying this testing, nice job!
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Posted: 8/12/2012 3:25:20 PM
After soaking all night in RBC...





Troy mag, no change.





TangoDown mag, no change.





Pmag. no change.





Lancer mag, no change.





Tapco mag, no change.





Tan GI mag, no change.





Green GI mag, no change.





Nothing left in the RBC.



Letting them air dry, not much for sun today so it might take a while.





Back at the range again.



Pre-drop magazines.



Loading with IMI M855.



Setting up for the drop test.


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Posted: 8/12/2012 4:32:03 PM
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The drop test, this is the second time I have dropped the mags.
I will be dropping them loaded on their spines.



The spines held up pretty good.



Mags did ok, Pmag is developing a small crack.




Nothing really bad in the spines of the magazines.



Then I decided to drop them on their lips one more time.



And straight from the drop test they go to a test fire.

Troy.


TangoDown.


Pmag. (Even with the crack)


Lancer.


Tapco.


Tan GI.


Green GI mag. (Pretty sure this one is junk now)


Poor SR-15 is getting a workout...


The feed lips seemed to be ok, besides the green GI mag not feeding.


Pmag and Tapco cracked from the last drop test.


Pmag crack.


Tapco crack.



Figured I'd do a quick "chevy truck test" since I have one.















Nothing happened, they just got dirty.




Cracks didn't get any bigger.



So now that they are dirty I'll have to clean them up...

I'm feeling lazy and figure I'll just toss them in the dishwasher.




Lets see what happens.


Too easy...


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Posted: 8/12/2012 4:48:13 PM
Out of the wash.


I must say they sure did clean up nicely, all dirt, oils, and carbon is gone.




Even the followers look good.


Cracks didn't change.


The Lancer is beginning to rust on its steel lips.



And they mags are still kinda water logged, so a quick bake should help....


I'll try to check back in 30 min...

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Posted: 8/12/2012 5:17:37 PM
You put that shit in your dishwasher?
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Posted: 8/12/2012 5:26:27 PM
Originally Posted By Aimless:
You put that shit in your dishwasher?


He must be single. Or is soon to be.

Whatever, I am interested in the results of this thread, following it from inception
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Posted: 8/12/2012 5:31:38 PM
Originally Posted By RyJones:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
You put that shit in your dishwasher?


He must be single. Or is soon to be.

Whatever, I am interested in the results of this thread, following it from inception


Not single. Wife has a "dishwasher phobia" so she refuses to use it.

Its my magazine washer now.

Until we buy a new dishwasher, then no more parts washer.
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