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Your posts over the last week have been well worth the $25 membership fee for the site.
Thank you so much Molon. |
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Your body can never go where your mind has never been.
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Thank you sir.
May I have another!? |
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Thanks again Sir!
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Happiness is a warm gun,
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Have you tested the Win RA556 loading?
I recently bought 500 of those bullets and want to approach the Winchester load. And you're going to make me put together a rifle with a Lothar barrel eventually. |
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"If Jesus had a gun he'd be alive today." - Homer Simpson
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Thanks again for another great review. Just placed an order for 500 of these bullets because of this review! Does anyone have a good start for some load data using h335 or ram shot tac? I have found some data on this bullet but the listed powders I don't currently have.
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Great review! I'm glad I stocked up on these back when Midway had them on clearance for $12 and some change per box. Now they sell it for $25+. Good ammo for sure..
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RIP: LTC D. Cabrera and SGT C. Newman-29OCT11-OEF
FL, USA
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Great report!
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"Everybody gotta die sometime Red"
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As always, great work!
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Originally Posted By SERVED_USMC: Poor people are gross
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Originally Posted By leatherface_y2k:
Have you tested the Win RA556 loading? I recently bought 500 of those bullets and want to approach the Winchester load. View Quote Winchester 5.56mm RA556B: Velocity, Accuracy and Terminal Ballistics |
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All that is necessary for Trolls to flourish, is for good men to do nothing.
In God We Trust. Everyone else must post data. |
Now I know why a certain shop just ran out of stock, ever since this thread was created
Damn it. |
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If I don't respond to your comment, you're on ignore.
RIP Grin! 10/09/2015 VP9>P320>M&P>G19 |
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Really? 176 20 round boxes? In less than 5 days?
Do you realize the effect you have good sir? Ugh....great review...that I've read elsewhere a while ago....and not much happened then....here?...now?... BOOM!............Henceforth duly named..." The Molon Effect".... Serious Question...have you been following the Faxon thread? I posted my results with this ammo and a Faxon Flame barrel. Pic on page 36...story about the setup on 37. Your opinion of my results would be very much appreciated. If, of course, you are so inclined. |
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Originally Posted By Blessed1:
Really? 176 20 round boxes? In less than 5 days? Do you realize the effect you have good sir? Ugh....great review...that I've read elsewhere a while ago....and not much happened then....here?...now?... BOOM!............Henceforth duly named..." The Molon Effect".... Serious Question...have you been following the Faxon thread? I posted my results with this ammo and a Faxon Flame barrel. Pic on page 36...story about the setup on 37. Your opinion of my results would be very much appreciated. If, of course, you are so inclined. View Quote That's some good, honest shooting/reporting for the conditions you described in that thread. |
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Originally Posted By Molon:
That's some good, honest shooting/reporting for the conditions you described in that thread. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Molon:
Originally Posted By Blessed1:
Really? 176 20 round boxes? In less than 5 days? Do you realize the effect you have good sir? Ugh....great review...that I've read elsewhere a while ago....and not much happened then....here?...now?... BOOM!............Henceforth duly named..." The Molon Effect".... Serious Question...have you been following the Faxon thread? I posted my results with this ammo and a Faxon Flame barrel. Pic on page 36...story about the setup on 37. Your opinion of my results would be very much appreciated. If, of course, you are so inclined. That's some good, honest shooting/reporting for the conditions you described in that thread. Thank you for your time For "field accuracy", I thought it was a good test. Sort of lying behind a log...without the log. I was pleased with the results as well. Not sure I could ask for better frankly. |
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Happiness is a warm gun,
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Originally Posted By Another-Bill:
Originally Posted By BigHunt:
Your posts over the last week have been well worth the $25 membership fee for the site. Thank you so much Molon. This. Damn right! When I first joined the site the first thing I went to when logging in was the ammo forum to see what Molon had posted. |
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"If Jesus had a gun he'd be alive today." - Homer Simpson
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This isn't the reloading forum; let's stick to factory ammo - Eric802
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According to Nosler and a few other individual posts on various forums, CFE 223 has produced the tightest groups and highest velocities.
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Would you happen to know at what distance this round, from a 16" barrel, would hit 1600fps?
I tried using an online ballistic calculator (Hornady I think) and I was getting 275ish, heavy on the ish. Does that sound right? Is there another manufacturer that loads this round to 5.56mm pressure besides Winchester? |
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Originally Posted By Blessed1:
Would you happen to know at what distance this round, from a 16" barrel, would hit 1600fps? I tried using an online ballistic calculator (Hornady I think) and I was getting 275ish, heavy on the ish. Does that sound right? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Blessed1:
Would you happen to know at what distance this round, from a 16" barrel, would hit 1600fps? I tried using an online ballistic calculator (Hornady I think) and I was getting 275ish, heavy on the ish. Does that sound right? I haven't chronographed the Nosler load from a 16" barrel. Winchester RA556B had a muzzle velocity of 2846 FPS from a 16" Noveske RECON barrel. Originally Posted By Blessed1:
Is there another manufacturer that loads this round to 5.56mm pressure besides Winchester? The SSA load (pre-Nosler buy-out) that I chrongraphed from a 20" Colt barrel had a muzzle velocity of 2990 FPS. ... |
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Originally Posted By nmguy23:
Thanks again for another great review. Just placed an order for 500 of these bullets because of this review! Does anyone have a good start for some load data using h335 or ram shot tac? I have found some data on this bullet but the listed powders I don't currently have. View Quote Just like Rabidus, I have been loading this bullet for a couple years now myself. My preferred load is very similar to his. My velocity numbers are in line with his too. I'm averaging around 2800fps depending on which gun I am firing it through. I don't have any data for the powders that you listed. One word of caution that I will give, is to be very cautious about chasing velocity above what you are seeing people post here. I have tried it many times and find that pressure spikes start happening way before you get to velocities more in the realm of other bullets of similar weights. There is something to the shape and composition of that BSB bullet that just won't allow you to get very high velocities. Not even at 5.56 pressures. In fact even the 5.56 FBI load with this bullet flys around 2960fps. However, it does seem to perform good even at lower velocities. The Ballistic Coefficient of .231 is what you would expect from a big blunt nose exposed tip bullet like this. It wasn't made for long range encounters. However, for close range engagements, it's a dandy. Would make a good small game and close up deer bullet as well as its primary mission of defense scenarios. The bonded nature throws it into barrier blind territory and if memory serves me correctly it is one of the few barrier blind bullets recommended by doc. My amateur testing in different medias has been positive. Thanks Molon for the great review! |
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<Some of these loads are WAY over max.
Please clean up post to remove those which exceed max recommended powder weight. -Z> |
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<Some of these loads are WAY over max. Please clean up post to remove those which exceed max recommended powder weight. -Z>
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Great data QCB! Thanks for sharing.
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This isn't the reloading forum; let's stick to factory ammo - Eric802
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This isn't the reloading forum; let's stick to factory ammo - Eric802
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Originally Posted By Blessed1:
Really? 176 20 round boxes? In less than 5 days? Do you realize the effect you have good sir? Ugh....great review...that I've read elsewhere a while ago....and not much happened then....here?...now?... BOOM!............Henceforth duly named..." The Molon Effect".... View Quote ... |
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All that is necessary for Trolls to flourish, is for good men to do nothing.
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oh wow
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Nice review. I do, however, have one minor quibble:
The Oehler 35P chronograph is actually two chronographs in one package that takes two separate chronograph readings for each shot and then has its onboard computer analyze the data to determine if there is any statistically significant difference between the two readings. View Quote It is mathematically impossible to develop any meaningful statistical information from a sample size of 2. Minimum sample size for any meaningful (and believe me, it's not particularly meaningful) analysis is 3. |
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It's like putting on crampons and walking through a room full of puppies.
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Originally Posted By FredMan:
Nice review. I do, however, have one minor quibble: It is mathematically impossible to develop any meaningful statistical information from a sample size of 2. Minimum sample size for any meaningful (and believe me, it's not particularly meaningful) analysis is 3. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FredMan:
Nice review. I do, however, have one minor quibble: The Oehler 35P chronograph is actually two chronographs in one package that takes two separate chronograph readings for each shot and then has its onboard computer analyze the data to determine if there is any statistically significant difference between the two readings. It is mathematically impossible to develop any meaningful statistical information from a sample size of 2. Minimum sample size for any meaningful (and believe me, it's not particularly meaningful) analysis is 3. Get a clue. If the proof-reading is 3040 FPS and the primary-reading one foot away from the proof reading is 3005 FPS, that's outside of what the expected statistical variation would be for that velocity spectrum and distance between readings and the Oehler 35P printout flags the readings for that shot as an error. ... |
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All that is necessary for Trolls to flourish, is for good men to do nothing.
In God We Trust. Everyone else must post data. |
All that is necessary for Trolls to flourish, is for good men to do nothing.
In God We Trust. Everyone else must post data. |
All that is necessary for Trolls to flourish, is for good men to do nothing.
In God We Trust. Everyone else must post data. |
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