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Molon Member of the General Population Joined Nov 2002 Posts 9614 EE 100% (350) USA	Posted: 8/19/2016 7:52:31 PM EDT [#1] Quote History Originally Posted By whiskerz: I learn something every time I read these View Quote Glad to hear that! ...
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MRW Fugitive from the Thought Police Joined Mar 2001 Posts 18129 EE 100% (71) FL, USA	Posted: 6/25/2017 11:37:03 PM EDT [#2] bump, hopefully for gel tests
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bfoosh06 Member Joined Sep 2008 Posts 5388 EE 0% (0) NT, USA	Posted: 6/27/2017 5:14:49 PM EDT [Last Edit: bfoosh06] [#3] Black Hills 5.56 load... 69gr SMK 20" barrel.
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Blessed1 Member Joined Feb 2012 Posts 926 EE 100% (1) VA, USA	Posted: 7/15/2017 2:14:58 PM EDT [#4] Quote History Originally Posted By bfoosh06: Black Hills 5.56 load... 69gr SMK 20" barrel. http://www.black-hills.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/5.56-69-Gr.-HP-Sierra-20in-barrel-9-22-11.jpg View Quote Doesn't seem to have ideal penetration does it?

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Posted: 7/15/2017 2:39:31 PM EDT

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Doesn't seem to have ideal penetration does it?

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Originally Posted By bfoosh06:
Black Hills 5.56 load... 69gr SMK 20" barrel.

http://www.black-hills.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/5.56-69-Gr.-HP-Sierra-20in-barrel-9-22-11.jpg

Doesn't seem to have ideal penetration does it?

Looks like a grenade went off, though.

DevL Joined May 2002 Posts 20582 EE 100% (23) TX, USA	Posted: 8/26/2017 7:29:13 PM EDT [#6] Quote History Originally Posted By Click2Boom: Looks like a grenade went off, though. View Quote Yaw length is very variable and frequently long. Penetration through any barrier is terrible. Fragmentation is not always consistent. The 75 and 77 grain OTMs are better for terminal performance. The 77 TMK better still.

rock71 Member Joined Aug 2004 Posts 8173 EE 100% (82) SC, USA	Posted: 8/26/2017 7:44:51 PM EDT [#7] Until this year, 69g FGMM was the issued duty ammunition at my department. When we were testing for a replacement, we shot some gel with it. In every instance, it fragmented small enough that we couldn't weigh any of the remaining pieces. It is very accurate though.
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AS556 Member Joined Feb 2015 Posts 3942 EE 100% (14) USA	Posted: 8/26/2017 8:57:10 PM EDT [#8] Would love to see @Molon back

MRW Fugitive from the Thought Police Joined Mar 2001 Posts 21753 EE 100% (71) FL, USA	Posted: 2/21/2020 7:33:02 AM EDT [#9] Are the pictures archived aywhere? Molon was worth every cent of the membership fee.
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Molon Member of the General Population Joined Nov 2002 Posts 10085 EE 100% (350) USA	Posted: 4/10/2021 10:17:01 AM EDT [#10] Quote History Originally Posted By MRW: Are the pictures archived aywhere? View Quote Broken picture links repaired.
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MRW Fugitive from the Thought Police Joined Mar 2001 Posts 24741 EE 100% (71) FL, USA	Posted: 4/10/2021 12:28:32 PM EDT [#11] The glory regained!
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compuvette Must suppress guns and feelings.... Joined Nov 2002 Posts 8222 EE 100% (88) IN, USA	Posted: 4/11/2021 10:33:24 PM EDT [#12] Thanks for the repair Molon and I’m glad you are back.
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j97531 Member Joined Nov 2007 Posts 3710 EE 100% (96) USA	Posted: 4/11/2021 10:38:11 PM EDT [#13] Thank you sir!

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Posted: 7/9/2021 12:08:31 PM EDT

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Every Barrel Is A Law Unto Itself.

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I have had amazing results using 24.5 grains of Varget with 69 grain SMK's seated at 2.250". It has been the most consistently accurate load across a wide range of bolt action and semi-auto rifles. Velocity averages around 2750 fps from 20" barrels, only 2550 fps from 16", 2850 fps from a 24".

Some loads just shoot well. This particular combination will group 1.25" with rack grade chrome lined 20" barrels and flirts with .5" with WOA and similar quality stainless steel match barrels. It has become my test load for new rifles and I load it in bulk.

borderpatrol Endeavor to persevere Joined Sep 2008 Posts 12816 EE 100% (5) MI, USA	Posted: 7/9/2021 12:13:35 PM EDT [#15] Quote History Originally Posted By Blessed1: Doesn't seem to have ideal penetration does it? View Quote 9" with explosive expansion would seem more than enough. We are not talking about a handgun round here, 1200 foot pounds of energy and all of it dumped in the target.

hoody2shoez Member Joined Aug 2017 Posts 1406 EE 100% (5) USA	Posted: 7/10/2021 1:16:38 AM EDT [#16] A side note- My test in bha 69tmk penetrated over 12" out of my 12.5. I have a feeling the lower velocity attributed to "less" violent fragmentation and more retained mass creating more momentum to pass deeper into the tissue. I have a feeling the 69smk would be similar.

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Posted: 7/14/2021 2:21:05 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez:
A side note-

My test in bha 69tmk penetrated over 12" out of my 12.5. I have a feeling the lower velocity attributed to "less" violent fragmentation and more retained mass creating more momentum to pass deeper into the tissue. I have a feeling the 69smk would be similar.

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I've considered using this load out of my 10.5" for this reason (as opposed to my various 77gr loads).

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@itchy-finger

The top one was bha 69gr tmk estimated between 2600-2700. 20" shooters block of synthetic 10% gel with penetration around 16 inches. I have a theory that both this and the 69gr smk will achieve greater penetration when kept below 2750 fps. The ballistic gel results on the original post mirror my theory.

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Molon Member of the General Population Joined Nov 2002 Posts 10628 EE 100% (350) USA	Posted: 11/27/2021 9:53:56 PM EDT [#19] Quote History Originally Posted By Click2Boom: Would love to see this with the inexpensive 69 SMK ADI loading. View Quote https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Range_Report___Australian_Outback_69_grain_Sierra_MatchKing/16-699563/?
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rock71 Member Joined Aug 2004 Posts 11472 EE 100% (82) SC, USA	Posted: 11/27/2021 9:59:57 PM EDT [Last Edit: rock71] [#20] …..
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