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Posted: 4/30/2015 3:37:44 PM EDT
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If it is IMI I would stay clear of it, IMI usually makes top notch stuff but there was problems reported with it at M14 forum.com. If you can find the Lith then go with it.
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Posted: 4/30/2015 4:29:32 PM EDT
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If it is IMI I would stay clear of it, IMI usually makes top notch stuff but there was problems reported with it at M14 forum.com. If you can find the Lith then go with it. You're talking about the TZ stuff from the 80's whereas he's asking about new manufacture ammo. If your local Walmart has ZQI I'd get that. Edit: Link to current issue posted below. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 6:37:47 PM EDT
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If it is IMI I would stay clear of it, IMI usually makes top notch stuff but there was problems reported with it at M14 forum.com. If you can find the Lith then go with it. I have some of the same IMI batch and it runs fine through my M1A Chrono results showed only 80 fps slower than RG93 and Port 83 Average M80 accuracy Never shot any of the GGG |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 7:35:25 PM EDT
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You're talking about the TZ stuff from the 80's whereas he's asking about new manufacture ammo. If your local Walmart has ZQI I'd get that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it is IMI I would stay clear of it, IMI usually makes top notch stuff but there was problems reported with it at M14 forum.com. If you can find the Lith then go with it. You're talking about the TZ stuff from the 80's whereas he's asking about new manufacture ammo. If your local Walmart has ZQI I'd get that. Actually while there is a big problem with TZ 80... there is indeed a current ongoing issue with current production IMI 7.62x51... follow the supplied link. http://m14forum.com/ammunition/176283-update-imi-7-62-problem.html |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 8:09:53 PM EDT
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Actually while there is a big problem with TZ 80... there is indeed a current ongoing issue with current production IMI 7.62x51... follow the supplied link. http://m14forum.com/ammunition/176283-update-imi-7-62-problem.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it is IMI I would stay clear of it, IMI usually makes top notch stuff but there was problems reported with it at M14 forum.com. If you can find the Lith then go with it. You're talking about the TZ stuff from the 80's whereas he's asking about new manufacture ammo. If your local Walmart has ZQI I'd get that. Actually while there is a big problem with TZ 80... there is indeed a current ongoing issue with current production IMI 7.62x51... follow the supplied link. http://m14forum.com/ammunition/176283-update-imi-7-62-problem.html  Damn! Thanks for the link.
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Posted: 5/1/2015 12:15:41 AM EDT
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I've got a box of it to chrono this weekend from my M1A. I'll have to see what I experience with the primers and velocity.
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Posted: 5/1/2015 5:46:03 PM EDT
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Damn I'm bummed and glad I found this thread and the discussion on the m1a forum. Seems like lot # 403-E has a problem and shouldn't be fired. Really lame as I have 1000 rounds of this that I brought recently from wideners. Looks like wideners will take the ammo back and issue a full refund. Sucks because I trust IMI as being high quality ammo that can be trusted without issues. But after this lot of 7.62, I don't think I can trust IMI without some personal quality control before I stock up on a particular batch.
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Posted: 5/2/2015 2:26:29 PM EDT
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Fired a total of 50 rounds out of three different rifles, Encore, SCAR, and AR-10, no problems.
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Posted: 5/3/2015 7:54:32 AM EDT
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Actually while there is a big problem with TZ 80... there is indeed a current ongoing issue with current production IMI 7.62x51... follow the supplied link. http://m14forum.com/ammunition/176283-update-imi-7-62-problem.html If it was something other than a M1A1 it might be valid. There are always problems with M1as and ammo. They are too pressure sensitive to be the standard to make a informed decision. There are more guys in that thread that report it as good vs the couple saying how bad it it. I have yet to have any problems with it, but I don't shoot my m1as anymore as well. |
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Posted: 5/3/2015 10:24:27 AM EDT
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If it was something other than a M1A1 it might be valid. There are always problems with M1as and ammo. They are too pressure sensitive to be the standard to make a informed decision. There are more guys in that thread that report it as good vs the couple saying how bad it it. I have yet to have any problems with it, but I don't shoot my m1as anymore as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Actually while there is a big problem with TZ 80... there is indeed a current ongoing issue with current production IMI 7.62x51... follow the supplied link. http://m14forum.com/ammunition/176283-update-imi-7-62-problem.html If it was something other than a M1A1 it might be valid. There are always problems with M1as and ammo. They are too pressure sensitive to be the standard to make a informed decision. There are more guys in that thread that report it as good vs the couple saying how bad it it. I have yet to have any problems with it, but I don't shoot my m1as anymore as well. Regardless of the rifle ... I would still suggest you double check your fired cases. The specific batch of IMI ammo is the issue in that linked thread, not the type of rifle.... if it was the rifle then all of the M1A's from that thread would have had issues....and all the M1A's didn't. My post was written so as to keep others informed of a issue with some IMI 7.62x51..... I, for one, would rather know about the backed out primers. And my M1A has never had a single ammo related issue in 30 years. |
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Posted: 5/4/2015 1:16:11 AM EDT
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Had primers start to back out of mine as well:   |
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Posted: 5/4/2015 2:08:33 AM EDT
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I used to trust IMI ammo completely as my goto stuff.
Then I opened some 1200 round M855 stuff and found a bunch of smashed cartridges in pristine boxes. Makes you wonder about their QC. |
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Posted: 5/4/2015 8:20:00 AM EDT
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.. if it was the rifle then all of the M1A's from that thread would have had issues.... And my M1A has never had a single ammo related issue in 30 years. exceptions are not rules and if you're a M1a owner/follower, you must acknowledge the fact that M1as are pressure sensitive (by their design) and that means a non standard distribution of problems due to the variances in op rods/springs and gas ports and the worst-headsapcing. I'm not discounting the problems just because its a m1a, I'm saying problems in that platform are not indicative of overall ammo problems. And yes no matter what you shoot you should inspect your casing after firing. |
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Posted: 5/4/2015 8:21:00 AM EDT
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Had primers start to back out of mine as well: shot from what? That detail is kinda important |
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Posted: 5/5/2015 1:02:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: shot from what? That detail is kinda important Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Had primers start to back out of mine as well: shot from what? That detail is kinda important Sorry, meant to post the video. 22" Springfield M1A: Besides the Perfecta .308, this is the slowest M80 I've chrono'd to date.. |
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