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Posted: 12/15/2014 11:11:21 PM EDT
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Well, that is odd.
So with the 11.5: The wolf shoots poorly but the other ammo is ok? With the 10" both are ok? As you've already tried............ the barrel were shot out, it would/should shoot badly (or not) for both. And if it were the ammo- it shouldn't do well in the 10". Keyholing is either: the barrel (shot out or the wrong twist), or the ammo- poor construction (ie the bullet diameter is messed up) or velocity. So............... carefully measure the cartridges (mainly the diameter) but also say if the bullets are literally loose in the case? and run it over a chrono? Maybe the ammo is somehow erratic in the load? ie some are barely spitting out and the others are "good." PS- I'm not a fan of steel cased stuff, but if it, somehow was or did, blow out the barrel, the brass stuff shouldn't shoot any better. That and 1000rds seems VERY short for you to wear out the barrel. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 11:21:33 PM EDT
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Some of the Wolf my neighbor has is really light, low power ammunition, was consistently stove pipping in his Sig. So I would say with the short barrel and slower than normal round the RPMs are down.
Why have we not tried some brass ammo, Federal, PMC, PPU? Still does not add up if its ok out of a 10", I would check the crown. Take the FH off and look might have been installed incorrectly and carbon built up. |
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Posted: 12/15/2014 11:29:22 PM EDT
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I had a DPMS, 18", 1:8, NATO chamber, MK12 barrel that shot all ammo very good, but wolf would keyhole 1 out of 5 shots like clockwork. It was a sub MOA barrel, but didn't like the wolf.
Wolf happens. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 12:44:19 PM EDT
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My buddy has a 20" Delton unlined A2 barrel, that shoots lights out. Like MOA with good stuff. He shot some Wolf with it, and it was keyholing it's ass off. I have only heard about this, until I saw it.
I shoot a shit ton of steel, and never have had any problems in any way. I guess once in a while, there is an odd bird that happens. Rifle barrels are funny things. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 6:55:34 PM EDT
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Maybe those sneaky ruskies are loading 5.45mm bullets in the 5.56 ammo.
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Posted: 12/17/2014 7:17:54 PM EDT
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Maybe those sneaky ruskies are loading 5.45mm bullets in the 5.56 ammo. I've heard of this happening before, it seems. It would make sense anyway. Wolf ain't match, as we all know. But it isn't that bad. |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 11:01:38 AM EDT
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its certainly not 5.45, as it shoots just fine in other guns, and a buddy's Wolf ammo from a completely different batch shoots the same. I measured the bullet diameter and it was in the .223-224 range
wonder if there is something about the bimetal jacket that is causing it to not engage the rifling and therefore not spin fast enough? I'd love to find a fired bullet and see what the rifling marks look like. Might just be straight scratches down the jacket instead of a normal twist pattern. |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 11:34:47 AM EDT
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Scooper, what Wolf is this? There are a ton of different kinds, as I am sure you know. Is this older stuff, that was TCW by chance? That was known to be some pretty shitty stuff. All the newer stuff is Barnaul, which actually shoots pretty damn good in all my guns. Just throwing ideas here man.
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Posted: 12/19/2014 2:51:07 PM EDT
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I have a few key holes with wolf in my 10.5 SBR. All other guns shoot it fine. I found it odd and thought I was crazy for a bit.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 11:06:04 AM EDT
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I got my lmt 10.5 upper and just grabbed the first couple of mags I could find in my truck. One mag was 55 wolf and the other was xm855. I proceeded to dump each mag into two separate targets. Every shot the wolf key holed and the xm855 was fine. I changed the a2 out for a noveske kx3 and the wolf no longer key holes. I have no explanation why but it worked.
I might even get flamed for it but I now have a rifle that will shoot the wolf ammo. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 11:46:08 AM EDT
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It would seem the solution is you shoot something other than Wolf.
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Posted: 12/22/2014 4:31:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It would seem the solution is you shoot something other than Wolf. x2 Or as you did, change the barrel. A friend of mine had the same thing happen with Tula...it was a new barrel from a good shop, they changed the barrel...no more keyholing. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 9:35:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It would seem the solution is you shoot something other than Wolf. Leave the wolf ammo for the dirt shooters
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Posted: 12/24/2014 10:51:26 AM EDT
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Leave the wolf ammo for the dirt shooters Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It would seem the solution is you shoot something other than Wolf. Leave the wolf ammo for the dirt shooters Both of these. On another note, who is the barrel manufacturer? It's more than likely the ammo. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 2:51:39 PM EDT
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It would seem the solution is you shoot something other than Wolf. At the current prices for brass, I am not buying any wolf. |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 10:40:01 AM EDT
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At the current prices for brass, I am not buying any wolf. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It would seem the solution is you shoot something other than Wolf. At the current prices for brass, I am not buying any wolf. +1 |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 10:55:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At the current prices for brass, I am not buying any wolf. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It would seem the solution is you shoot something other than Wolf. At the current prices for brass, I am not buying any wolf. |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 10:58:41 AM EDT
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What about Wolf gold? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It would seem the solution is you shoot something other than Wolf. At the current prices for brass, I am not buying any wolf. I buy those. |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 11:01:02 AM EDT
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At the current prices for brass, I am not buying any wolf. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It would seem the solution is you shoot something other than Wolf. At the current prices for brass, I am not buying any wolf. Even at the crazy prices for brass I didn't buy wolf...... |
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