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Posted: 5/8/2012 6:31:24 AM EDT
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I will probably catch some heat for saying thing but I would take the 9mm with just about any load you give me .. Sig or Beretta I would prefer... I have great confidence in my abilities with those weapons. I have done some testing with the .410 and personally I am not that impressed. I don't want to offend anyone but the marketing people have done a good job at talking up the .410 and its abilities. It will do okay 25 yds and under but I will take the 9mm after that for sure. Again I am not trying to start a big argument with anyone.
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Posted: 5/8/2012 6:31:34 AM EDT
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9mm. I don't know if I'd have enough faith in the reliability of a semi-auto .410.
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Posted: 5/8/2012 6:33:02 AM EDT
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9mm. I don't know if I'd have enough faith in the reliability of a semi-auto .410. really asking about the round, not the platform. Quoted:
I will probably catch some heat for saying thing but I would take the 9mm with just about any load you give me .. Sig or Beretta I would prefer... I have great confidence in my abilities with those weapons. I have done some testing with the .410 and personally I am not that impressed. I don't want to offend anyone but the marketing people have done a good job at talking up the .410 and its abilities. It will do okay 25 yds and under but I will take the 9mm after that for sure. Again I am not trying to start a big argument with anyone. 410 out of an 18" barrel is a different animal than the fools with their judges. |
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Posted: 5/8/2012 6:43:08 AM EDT
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Are you going to be able to hit anything past 25 yards with the .410? I doubt it......I'll take the .410 for the close in stuff, and the 9mm for everything past 25 yards.
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Posted: 5/8/2012 6:47:46 AM EDT
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that's basically my questions.
50 yard hits with a 9mm isn't exactly hard (1" groups maybe, minute of pie plate not so much1) |
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Posted: 5/8/2012 6:53:44 AM EDT
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9mm
Bill |
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Posted: 5/8/2012 7:31:07 AM EDT
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Hey ... Surprised all of us agree so far
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Posted: 5/8/2012 7:45:10 AM EDT
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I think alot of us underestimate the 9mm, at least in modern form (e.g. bonded rangers, HST).
MY post was borne out of the suspicion that I may also be underestimating the 410 out of an 18" barrel. I'm wondering what the effective range is. I'm guessing 50 yards max. |
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Posted: 5/8/2012 7:52:19 AM EDT
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I'd take the 9mm over the .410 any day.
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Posted: 5/8/2012 8:44:22 AM EDT
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We were shooting .410 buck (#4 i Think) out of a 18" single shot last year. Beyond 35 yds you were lucky to put one or two pellets on a USPSA sill. target. We were able to get .410 slug hits out to 75 yards, but barely. My CZ-75 outshot the shotty easily.
ETA- Might get better results with a better shotgun. We were using the Springer 22/410 O/U survival gun. I would not want to have to do much survival with that. Funky paddle style trigger was not condusive to accuracy. |
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Posted: 5/8/2012 8:49:37 AM EDT
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there's the info I wanted, thanks!!!! I have had reliable 410 buckshot experiences at 20 yards, but never tried farther... Quoted:
We were shooting .410 buck (#4 i Think) out of a 18" single shot last year. Beyond 35 yds you were lucky to put one or two pellets on a USPSA sill. target. We were able to get .410 slug hits out to 75 yards, but barely. My CZ-75 outshot the shotty easily. ETA- Might get better results with a better shotgun. We were using the Springer 22/410 O/U survival gun. I would not want to have to do much survival with that. Funky paddle style trigger was not condusive to accuracy. |
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Posted: 5/8/2012 9:30:34 AM EDT
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9mm.
At 100 yards most 9mm rounds are still packing .38 special +p energy levels from the muzzle. |
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Posted: 5/8/2012 6:22:48 PM EDT
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a 410 has all the disadvantages of a 12ga but without the advantages. I'll take the 9 thanks
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Posted: 5/9/2012 6:19:59 AM EDT
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These silly .410 revolvers have brought the .410 bore back to life...it should have simply been left to die.
Do a search for "Box-O-Truth" and their test of the various .410 loads (at that time) fired from the Taurus Judge revolver. NOT very impressive. |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 6:23:47 AM EDT
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note my post in the box of truth thread
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These silly .410 revolvers have brought the .410 bore back to life...it should have simply been left to die. Do a search for "Box-O-Truth" and their test of the various .410 loads (at that time) fired from the Taurus Judge revolver. NOT very impressive. |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 6:32:48 AM EDT
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Shot placement and all that.
9mm for me. |
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Posted: 5/9/2012 9:42:48 AM EDT
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It has been decades since I shot a 410, but given your parameters there is no question in my mind: 9mm.
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Posted: 5/9/2012 9:54:06 AM EDT
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I expect any self defence situation that I am exposed to would be more like 10 yards and under and near there the .410 would be pretty fast and good but the OP called out 10-50 yards and the .410 gets pretty sloppy out at distance.
If I am going to carry a .410 around why can't I swap it out for a lightweight AR carbine? Since I need to vote one of the two original choices I will say 9mm. If I had one or more nasty dogs up close and serious about tearing me up the .410 would look pretty sweet |
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