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1K of the 62 and
500 55 FMJ's in a 20 inch 1:7 Colt HBAR. No failures of any kind.
Accuracy only fair with the 62's working better in my rifle. Dirty, but
not enough to cause any problems in 2-400 round range sessions.
rounds of their 62-gr. BTHP load through an Olympic 14.5" CAR97M4 w/ SS
barrel. No functioning problems. Accuracy was about 3"@100-meters,
rested. Edited to say that this ammo wasn't as dirty as the PMC that
500+ rounds thru my RA M-96. No problems
with sticking, failure to extract, failure to eject, torn rims or the
like. Of course my RA M-96 shoots everything without complaint. Not real
tacking driving ammo, but OK. Here's the way I rate it: Better than
Wolf About the same as S&B Almost equal to SA Not even in the same
league as IMI, Fed 193, X193 or Win Q3131A Is it good enough for casual
plinking? You bet. Do you want to use it at the range to show off your
new Bushie to your buds? I doubt it, there's always the confusion of is
it the ammo or is it the rifle. Would I bet my life on it? NO WAY, stick
with the good stuff.
I would echo the last guy
exactly. Better than Wolf. Not as good as SA. Not in the same world as
XM193. I can't get it to group better than 2" at 100 meters out of my
Oly PCR 1. Not great, but not as bad as Wolf. I can't get the Wolf to
group in the same State. Value is the relationship between quality and
price. This ammo is a good value for average ammo at a great price. When
I find it below $50/500, I stock up.
experiance with burnaul was with the 62grHP. And I'm not happy with it.
I've shot 1k rounds of the stuff from an olympic PCR1 with a bushie
14.5in/ y-comp M4 profile 1/9 (marked match) barrel. It's the only
Russian ammo I've tried that I've had problems with. Though the problems
may be mag related. It won't feed reliably from orilite mags. And it
actually wouldn't feed from a colt mag either. Though that one has to be
the mag as it would not feed them in a friends gun out of that mag
either. He also was having problems with the ammo feeding from his
orilites. I'll try their 62gr FMJ before i decide to not use this stuff
anymore, as I've had not one problem from the wolf 62gr FMJ. Other than
that no other problems.
62 gr Barnaul. Underpwered
and inconsistent as usual. Does not hold back bolt in any of my ARs.
Very occasional short stroke in one of them. Have reserved it for the
Mini-14 where it performs flawlessly for plinking.
my vmatch seems to like this quite well not that I am a great shooter or
anything but grouping around 5 inch avg at 100 yds off the bipod and
EoTECH. good enuff for me seems loaded hotter than Wolf no failures
after 200 rounds today went thru steel and aluminum plate like butter
its the red box wrapped nicely in a paper sheet. nice stuff I want more
FYI I usually get 3 inch groups with XM193 off the bench I didnt have
the bipod that day so to me the 5-6 inch groups offhand arent bad and
still on the silhouette. green fingers and all
I have the least amount of experience of anyone that posts here, but I
have fail to ejects about 30% of the time with JSC/Barnual. Never had a
FTE or FTF with Q3131A. However, my crappy Ruger Mini-14 eats the stuff
flawlessly. Flawlessly means 8" groups at 100 yards though, as opposed
to about 3" with the good stuff
Don't have alot of
experiance with it. Just shot about 350 rds of the 55gr fmj. yesterday.
no problems.Really good for cheap ammo. About 21/2" groups @ 100 yds if I
do my part. Seems a little weak though. I does function well in My 16"
AR. Alot of richoches( think thats how you spell it).Steel jackets like
to bounce more than any ammo I've ever fired.
I ran 1k
rounds through my armalite M-15A2 20" and RRA LAR-15A2 16" without a
hitch. Just some mag related probs, that being they were bad mags
anyways. Groups were 2"-4" @100yds. Didn't really matter cause I used'em
for shooting steel. As compared to Wolf, I can't tell alot of
difference cause I don't use either brand that often. Seemed abit hotter
and accurate. I say go for it if you're looking for cheap plinking
ammo; something I have a habit of not doing when I probably should.
bought 500 rounds on sale just before Y2K, I just brought it out
recently and have been shooting it in my standard bushmaster 20" hbar.
With iron sights at 100 yards I get very acceptable tactical accuracy.
Not as good as South African but good enough for me. Figure about 2 inch
groups if I shoot from a rest. This is the 55gr stuff.
about 1000 rounds through my RRA M4, and it feels about the same as
Wolf. Most definitely loaded lighter than M193, as I mixed up a mag of
XM193 and Barnaul. The Barnaul still has the red neck sealant, but I
guess it's fine in my rifle which shoots Wolf without complaints also. I
got the ammo for a very good price, and would buy more, but the new
Wolf Polymer coated stuff sounds like it's the way to go now...
tried some of there 62 grain fmj in my colt 20" a2 and had about 30% of
them stick in the chamber. Accuracy wasn't to bad but i think i'll burn
the rest in my mini14 and give up on the commie 223rd.
have shot about 1200 rounds of this through an armalite 180b, it has a
tight chamber and has not been cleaned in a while. recoil is heavier
than wolf, and indistinguishable from q3131a. Had one FTF (bolt did not
close all the way), but all rounds have fired without a hitch otherwise,
only a couple mag related problems (USA ACK). This is by far my
favorite blasting ammo. It is half the price of xm193 up here.
got 7k of 55gr Barnaul from Widener's on a closeout sale last spring.
My sons and I have run about 2k of it thru 3 Olympic Arms parts kit guns
with no problems. Loads good and fired every time. Just used it for
55 gr FMJ in a Colt HBAR 20 in. No
problems. Accurate enough for plinking ammo. I will keep using it, as
it is about the cheapest I can buy hereabouts that shoots well in my AR.
shot 2500+ rds of SMA223FMJ 223 AMMO 55GR FMJ $56.00 / 500rnds from
Widener's in the last few months.
No failures, no problems. Excellent
put about 100 rds of 55gr though my 16"
bushmaster dissy. No problems at all. Chrono'd 5 rounds of it, and it
varied from 2940 to 2990. I let a round chamber and sit there for 10
minutes to see if i'd have any problems with the laquer sticking, and it
ejected fine after i fired it.
Firearm: RRA middie
Type: 55gr FMJ
Not a hiccough or bobble. Good
consistency, good performance, and not as dirty as some U.S. made ammo
I've fired. POI is just about exactly the same as with Q3131A, at least
at 50 yards through my rifle.
If I could find their stuff in 62gr,
I'd buy all of it I could carry.
did about 300 rounds of barnaul
in a tactical rifle class i had today. Rifle is a Bushy super light 16"
and used cproducts SS mags. No problems at all, this is great ammo if
you dont need a high level of accuracy (i was shooting with irons at man
sized targets out to 100 yards, and it was accurate enough for that).
gone thru a case of their .223 and .40 with zero problems.
~800 rounds fired
Barnaul 55gr FMJ from Academy
satisfied with Barnaul. Shoots a little hotter than Wolf and just a tad
Able to consistently hit turkey-sized plate @ 100yds
offhand and 10" steel plate @ 200yds supported with iron sights.
only problem with Barnaul is occassionally FTE (1 out of about 120
rnds). I think it's due to dirtyness, but Wolf has never had a problem.
Could be because Wolf is polymer coated & Barnaul is lacquer coated.
had issues with the Barnaul/Monarch steel cased .223 regarding tumbling
bullets impacting the target sideways @ 25 yards in my 16" POF 1/8
twist upper. When I finish the remaining rounds through my 16"
Bushmaster HBAR, I will not purchase any more of the Monarch .223 steel
I am going to have to change my vote on the Monarch
Steel Cased stuff from Academy. It shot like a dream in my 16" 1/9 twist
Bushmaster. No keyholes or anything like that. I started the day off
mag dumping just to finish the ammo out, and then I decided to try aimed
fire, and was pleasantly surprised at the results!
I think the 1/8
twist on the POF may have had issues with stabilizing the bullet. FWIW,
the POF tends to favor heavier grained bullets.
I will use this stuff
again because the price is right for plinking with.
midlength 1:8 16" SS barrel
I've fired approx. 1K of the 55 gr. FMJ's
through the RRA. One failure to fire out of the entire lot. The primer
strike was good, just no boom. No failure to feed, eject, etc. with any
magazine that I've tried. I never chronographed or shot it for accuracy.
I will continue to buy it just as long as Academy has
it. I'll try the brass cased stuff when I get a chance.
some of this at academy the other and decided to give a try. I ran a 100
rounds through a rra car 15 midlength with no problems whatsover. I am
pleased with the ammo and the price
I have run at least 500
rounds of the lacquer coated Monarch through my 6920 with zero problems.
Indistinguishable from Wolf for plinking. At least for my purposes. I
will continue to use it.
Shot it in a 16" LW SOC. It produced 4"
groups at 50 yards. Switched to 45 grain SP Winchester and it produced
1" groups or less. Its 8 MOA ammo. I wont buy anymore unless its for
full auto shooting where I just want cheap ammo. And its dirty.
about 3K rounds through a surplus M16a1 upper that Kurt's Kustom
converted to a dissy. No functioning problems. Stuff stinks. Patterns
OK. Just don't bother trying to get a group out of it.
is an M4gery that I built with great quality parts (or later replaced
cheap stuff with great quality parts. Runs 100% with xm 193 and black
hills but short strokes almost every shot with monarch. After firing the
monarch it reminded me of what everyone says wolf will do to your
rifle. It was nasty, I mean NASTY. As bad as it was, I then fired 170
rounds of XM193 through it, and even after one of the mags took a dump
into clay (I loaded it anyway) it functioned 100%. Guess my carbine just
likes the hot stuff.
500 rounds thru Bushmaster. Shot fine. Used
it for plinking, have no idea what size groups, but hit the gongs I
pointed it at.
Just ran 100 rounds through my RRA Varmit E4 and
only about 60% cycled correctly. Problems with ejection and
feeding/cycling. This became extremely annoying.
Also the best I
could group with this ammo @100yds was about an 8" circle. Will not buy
or use this stuff again. I can buy Remington UMC for about the same
price and it cycles great and groups much better.
through my last 2 mags of the stuff in my M16 (DPMS post ban upper)
no problems . I've put this stuff through 3 AR's/M16's
with no problems . Iwon't buy any more at $3.89 per 20 though. I'll
stick to wolf for that kind of money. sucks to as it goes down range
just fine (1-7 twist ) and I've shot quite a bit through my ETS .223
The monarch steel cased 55 gr FMJ has
been about 80% of what has gone through my Bushmaster 16 inch 1/9. Total
rounds fired is around 1000, so that makes it about 800.
problems have been one failure to eject of a steel cased round (round
stuck in chamber pretty good, rim ripped off by extractor) and one
instance of the aforementioned occurring with a brass cased Monarch 55
gr SP (made by PP, I know) fired directly after many of the steel cased.
is about 6 moa at 100 yards. Round to round recoil felt very
1) 14.5" LMT upper, RRA Lower (m4 clone)
about 300 rounds
3) 55gr Barnaul Steel case (Labeled Monarch from
Not one single issue with the ammo. Always has worked
perfectly. Usually don't shoot over 50 yards, as I mostly shoot tactical
matches. Accuracy is decent enough, no complaints, though I have never
shot for group.
Much hotter than Wolf, though slower than M193.
Barnaul worked in my M4 clone even when other ammo types would short
stroke. Only downside is it isn't 2.86/20 anymore!
gone through 1k rounds of 62 gr. sp and just ordered another 1k. Had 1
FTE during a speed session. Figure that it got too hot and melted some
lacquer. Had no problems with slow fire off the bench. Accuracy is
decent, with some less than 1MOA groups @ 100 yds., if I can do my part.
rifle is a S&W M&P M15A, 1 in 9 twist, 16 in. barrel.
don't remember if I've voted in an earlier version of this review or
not, so here goes.
I can't count how much Monarch Blue Box .223
I've gone through-most likely at least 1k rounds. Not clean, but nothing
is (WWB seems about as dirty). Fair accuracy; good for plinking and
such, not long range or bullseye accuracy. Works EVERY time in my AR
The only problem with it is that it's too damn
expensive at Academy. Nearly $5 a box for STEEL cased, non-reloadable
Forgot to mention that it's all been 55gr FMJ that I've
seen at Academy, so that's all I've had experience with.
shot the Academy stuff. I used it previoulsy as blasting ammo for full
auto for cheap and it is functional. It is the only ammo I have ever
tried and got 8 MOA groups with. Thats right, this ammo shot 8 MOA,
consistantly. Other FMJ shot 2 MOA. Wont ever buy it again unless
someone needs cheap ammo before a full auto shoot and an Academy is on
I got to try about 100 rds at the
Eden MG shoot. This was the 55 gr fmj blue box. It was distinctly more
powerful than the Wolf black box I was using. I used it in Colt 11.5 1:7
and Colt 20" 1:12 uppers. All FA, some shot in the evening in mags with
tracer reloads. No failures of any kind. Moreover I shot this stuff
after I had fired off alot of Wolf poly........no cleaning, just an
occasional squirt of CLP on bolt and in bolt gas ports when I start to
need to use the forward assist. As has been my experience with the
polymer stuff, I could not stick any lacquer cases in the chamber, even
when I let one sit chambered after a few mag dumps. I didn't notice
anything unusual, cleanup-wise, when I returned home.
- better than minute of car, anyway.
I'm planning on picking up 10k
when my buddy gets more in. I think I'd prefer this stuff to the black
box poly. Will run some over a chronograph alongside black box when I
get a chance.
1) Ruger Mini-14, Essential Arms
AR-15, Olympic arms Ar-15 m4
3)Barnaul steel cased
its the best non-brass cased ammunition for your money, I think it
performs better than Wolf, achieving head shots on a silouette at a 100
yards every single time with the mini. I also like it because sometimes
with the wolf, it is a veryyyy dirty round to load and your hands will
be black after. With the Barnaul you have very clean hands left over(but
make sure you still wash) In all, buy this over Wolf anyday you can.
ammo ,dirty, stays in the black
Frankenstien ar 16"
golden bear 200rnds
Barnual box 29rnds
still working on a case i purchased several years ago (barnul). Ive
never had a dud or failure in 3 different rifles with it. I like it
better than wolf - less stinky, slightly better groups and more
consistent. Just my 2 cents.
16in stag upper/1 in 9
twist and old a1 20in colt upper/1 in 12 twist; 500 rounds 55 gr barnaul
from widener's. i shot 300 rds with no function issues last weekend and
200 rds today with one stuck, unfired cartridge that that had a small
blob of steel stuck to the side of the bullet––weird. i had 100 rds of
55gr wolf mc with me today, and i felt that the barnaul was a little
hotter and a little tighter on target.
run all mentioned above from my colt m4 to all my J&T biulds,
bushmaster and cmmg m4gery or rock river, never had any problem with the
zinc plated barnaul, a couple fte on 1 kit gun after the rifle was hot
and did a 80 round mag dump with a beta c mag that was using the blue
box monarch, i feel this stuff is better than wolf imo. ammo prices have
forced me to shot russian ammo. the zinc coated barnaul has been great
in everything i own.
Ran through 500 rounds of
Barnaul 55gr recently:
- Clearly not as accurate as LC XM193. But
pretty good for plinking, especially with the price of $198 / 1000 from
- Had 1 dud out of 500.
some Brown Bear 62 gr. HP through my wife's 16" flat top carbine and my
16" dissipator. No real groups were shot with this ammo.
This was my
wife'f first time shooting an AR-15. Her's is equiped with an A1 stock,
and a Bushnell Holosight. She was able to keep all of her shots but 3 on
a paper plate shooting offhand out to 50yds. She put over 100 rounds
through the carbine.
No failures of any type were experienced.
Dissipator has a heavy barrel and 1.5-4.5x scope. About 30 rounds of
the same Brown Bear load were put through this rifle. My wife shot ten
of these from the bench with the scope set on 4.5x She kept all rounds
inside a 2"x2" square. Most went into a single ragged hole about 3/4 of
an inch. There were 3 flyers out of the 10 shots that hit about a half
inch higher than the other 7.
The other 20 rounds through the
dissipator were fired by me offhand with the scope set on 1.5x as head
shots on silhouette targets. No misses, but again, not really fired for
groups. They clustered into about 3 inches at 50yds. These were not slow
fire but shots taken by holding the rifle at low ready, bringing it to
the shoulder and taking one "quick shot" as soon as the cross hairs
settled on the head. (roughly 1-1.5 seconds from rifle mount to shot).
No failures of any kind.
Also, my wife fired one shot into a one
gallon water bottle to impress upon my 4 y/o daughter why she can't
touch the guns without mommy or daddy directly supervising her.
blew apart at 25yds (as expected). The bottle split at several places.
single bullet hole in the front label, three holes found on the back
side of the jug. The effect was good my daughter had wide eyes as the
jug exploded and jumped 3 feet into the air. I think it was a worthwhile
demonstration because after shooting paper plates and silhouettes I am
sure she had no idea how destructive a gun could be. My wife was equally
impressed with the energy her new carbine packs, as well as how much
easier it is to hit targets with than her pistol.
My daughter wants a
rifle of her own but she is still a bit too small statured and not
quite as good a listener as she needs to be to start shooting yet. Even
the Cricket has a little too much length of pull for her. I did help her
hold a 10/22 and put a few rounds through it. It appears she may be
plagued by being right handed and left eye dominant.
ammo. I would buy more for range practice. Not going to win anny
accuracy matches, but definitely good enough for practical shooting
I use the "Monarch" blue box almost exclusively (sometimes I use the
green) because it's practical. For the 8moa folks, I don't know what to
tell ya. I haven't shot a carbine match with the stuff yet, but I used
ONLY monarch in a few IDPA matches with a Glock 19 and never had one
single issue. Any faults were "operator error".
I have used it
EXTENSIVELY at the range while plinking, and it's worked fine. I had
alot of feeding issues, but it was attributed to my rifle having a
(found out later) broken firing pin and bad bolt. It worked flawlessly
on the other two AR's... over 3000rds on a beautiful Sunday afternoon
Try to afford that with ANY ammo. It
wasn't cheap, but compare that to xm193 (which is what many people have
done here, performance-wise).
As far as accuracy, we were hitting
steel plates, so I couldn't give you an estimate. However, sighting it
in was easy enough. I would imagine getting fist-sized groups at 100m
with an EoTech or irons.