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Posted: 3/30/2017 3:05:21 AM EDT
[#1]
I concur. The M4 is a fugly, overweight abortion of a carbine.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 3:17:43 AM EDT
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If I had to choose based on looks, I'd go with the M4 but that's subjective. The quad rail style is too much for me though.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 3:24:24 AM EDT
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Sorry bro but this seems absolutely ridiculous to me. The parts the military selected for the M4 was chosen off of capability, not how pretty it looks.
I won't argue with you that an M16A2 looks prettier than an M4 carbine, but mount your weaponlight, LAM, and optic on an M16A2 with duct tape and see how well your zero's hold. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 5:28:52 AM EDT
[#4]
Function over form.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 5:57:40 AM EDT
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I agree M16`s is more aesthetic,but if I want a home-defence rifle,M4`s would be my chioce.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 6:46:45 AM EDT
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Sorry bro but this seems absolutely ridiculous to me. The parts the military selected for the M4 was chosen off of capability, not how pretty it looks. I won't argue with you that an M16A2 looks prettier than an M4 carbine, but mount your weaponlight, LAM, and optic on an M16A2 with duct tape and see how well your zero's hold. 
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Posted: 3/30/2017 6:50:16 AM EDT
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After the M14 it all went to hell...
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Posted: 3/30/2017 7:01:17 AM EDT
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After the M14 it all went to hell... 
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Posted: 3/30/2017 7:01:42 AM EDT
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might as well just say, that after the Winchester lever-action, or Colt Single Action Army, it all went to hell.
i prefer the utilitarian M4. and i think the 10.5" version is a work of art. and i do have a 20" A2. but, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 7:19:34 AM EDT
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might as well just say, that after the Winchester lever-action, or Colt Single Action Army, it all went to hell. i prefer the utilitarian M4. and i think the 10.5" version is a work of art. and i do have a 20" A2. but, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 7:44:36 AM EDT
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A1 is even prettier with its triangle hand guards and lack of a brass deflector. Plus, it's what I carried. WOLF A1 .jpg)
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Posted: 3/30/2017 8:16:14 AM EDT
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ITT, a guy who stares at his guns instead of using them.
Seriously, who cares? It's a fucking tool. If you want "pretty," there are plenty of other platforms available that can offer that in an "off the shelf" package. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 8:27:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/30/2017 8:34:38 AM EDT
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ITT, a guy who stares at his guns instead of using them. Seriously, who cares? It's a fucking tool. If you want "pretty," there are plenty of other platforms available that can offer that in an "off the shelf" package. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 8:51:17 AM EDT
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Yeah, stuff like lights, shorter barrels, adjustable stocks, and optics really screw up the lines, but they're pretty useful if you like shooting past daylight, or indoors, or quickly. You know, real world stuff.
Of course, you can do all that with a A1 or A2... just not particularly well. ETA: But yeah, purely on looks alone, the M16 (pre-A1) is hard to beat. It has the 1950s and 1960s slick, streamlined look that screams "tomorrow's rifle today". |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 8:56:29 AM EDT
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Why not ask whether blonde girls are more attractive than brunettes or redheads. Beauty contest. Purely subjective. Eye of the beholder. Is this technical?
I like these. Oh, are there rifles in that pic? Was referring to the IDF girls. 
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Posted: 3/30/2017 8:56:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/30/2017 9:10:50 AM EDT
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Apple like mfg? So they make the exact same thing year after year, only changing minimal visual differences? Nah, I'm ok. Android is better.
 Be together, not the same.
https://youtu.be/xLhJIFC8xkY However, i do agree the full size KISS rifles look better, less clutter, less BS. Even my carbines are basic looking. I really want a DCM type tube for my AR10, i tried twice and fudged up both barrel nuts. Haven't tried again yet. I really like basic M4s with standard handguards too. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 9:51:37 AM EDT
[#21]
On pure looks alone, give me a 14.5" m4 with an A2 front sight and a RAS guard or even an moe guard.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 11:11:29 AM EDT
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Although I have my share of M4s, my passion lies with the classic M16s. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/002-177159.JPG  
Mk18 blows them both away. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 11:13:14 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryWinner winner chicken dinner! This guy gets it.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 11:15:57 AM EDT
[#24]
Best looking ar in my opinion will always be slick side SP1 carbines.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 11:57:15 AM EDT
[#25]
Ah, the ole "no style, no soul" comment.
I'll admit to admire a guns looks though. So I guess it kind of makes sense. I guess I'm not that picky though. Pretty much all of them (M4/M16 of various configs) look pretty good to me. Some more than others. I think a dissy with a small adjustable stock is about the ugliest of them all, but still so useful. So the function brings it's own kind of beauty. 
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Posted: 3/30/2017 12:13:04 PM EDT
[#26]
Looking at how popular Key-Mod and M-Lok are I would say the industry is moving back to slimmer smoother lines already.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 12:14:46 PM EDT
[#27]
Looks is the least of my worry when I buy or build a gun, as long as it does the job, then it is the most beautiful gun in the world!
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Posted: 3/30/2017 12:25:24 PM EDT
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I find A frame front sights and fixed carry handles to be hideous. I find the A2 stock to be hideous, not as hideous as a Vltor clubfoot, but not attractive. I like the looks of a long slim rail (Mlock or Keymod with civers) over the gas block as close to the muzzle device as possible, an optic mounted straight to the reciever, a collapsible stock and no grips hanging down off the rail.
Wood and blued steel looks like a 70s wood panel TV to me. Old and decrepit. Obsolete like a model T. Like it should smell like cosmoline and aquavelva. To me bullpups are ugly... like a little dwarf troll. An Uzi or Mac10 submachine gun is ugly, like somone put a handle on a brick and called it a gun. A Highpoint is ugly. A 1911 is beautiful. A snub nose revolver is ugly, especially a hammer less version with a humpback like Igor/Quasimoto, doing its master's bidding. A polished Smith 686 is a beautiful revolver or a Colt single action. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 12:56:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:I actually agree with that; the late 1800s produced the best looking firearms of the last two centuries. I still have a lot of ARs and Glocks. Growing up in the 90's it was always the M16 you saw on a modern movie, I thought the handle thing was cool which is why the first AR I built has one (detachable though) with a FSB. I can totally get the function over form thing with the M4 though. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 3:45:04 PM EDT
[#30]
Am I the only one who likes the way the M4 looks?
The carry handle, stock and buffer tube have something of a steampunk look to them. I also love the look of it when it has the 203 mounted, though that setup looks better when it has a RIS 2. The only thing I don't like about that setup is actually carrying the damn thing.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 4:10:02 PM EDT
[#31]
Function has a beauty all its own. I like the look of the M4.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 6:08:48 PM EDT
[#32]
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Pffff. Those are rookie numbers.
Mk18 blows them both away.
 Attached FileI also have several M4 clones, a couple M16A4 clones, a Mk12 Mod 0 clone, and a few others. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 7:17:46 PM EDT
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I find A frame front sights and fixed carry handles to be hideous. I find the A2 stock to be hideous, not as hideous as a Vltor clubfoot, but not attractive. I like the looks of a long slim rail (Mlock or Keymod with civers) over the gas block as close to the muzzle device as possible, an optic mounted straight to the reciever, a collapsible stock and no grips hanging down off the rail. Wood and blued steel looks like a 70s wood panel TV to me. Old and decrepit. Obsolete like a model T. Like it should smell like cosmoline and aquavelva. To me bullpups are ugly... like a little dwarf troll. An Uzi or Mac10 submachine gun is ugly, like somone put a handle on a brick and called it a gun. A Highpoint is ugly. A 1911 is beautiful. A snub nose revolver is ugly, especially a hammer less version with a humpback like Igor/Quasimoto, doing its master's bidding. A polished Smith 686 is a beautiful revolver or a Colt single action. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 7:37:41 PM EDT
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Am I the only one who likes the way the M4 looks? The carry handle, stock and buffer tube have something of a steampunk look to them. I also love the look of it when it has the 203 mounted, though that setup looks better when it has a RIS 2. The only thing I don't like about that setup is actually carrying the damn thing.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 8:18:18 PM EDT
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When I see an M-16 I thnk, "wonder how many fucking ruskies I could kill with this?"
When I see an M-4 I think, "wonder how many fucking terrorists our boys could kill with this?" They both hold a beauty all their own. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 8:25:11 PM EDT
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A basic M4 does have some appeal. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/M4e-177590.JPG |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 9:08:59 PM EDT
[#37]
i thought i over did it...awesome pic
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Although I have my share of M4s, my passion lies with the classic M16s. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/002-177159.JPG |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 9:18:35 PM EDT
[#38]
I own several of both.
Speaking strictly in terms of aesthetics, I'm the total opposite of the OP. Personally, I think the M4/CAR-15 in it's stock configuration is the best looking long gun made. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 9:29:18 PM EDT
[#39]
M16 is an ugly skank next to a Sig550
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Posted: 3/30/2017 9:59:48 PM EDT
[#40]
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Although I have my share of M4s, my passion lies with the classic M16s. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/002-177159.JPG |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 11:39:34 PM EDT
[#41]
To each his own. I've always been a big M4 fan.
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Posted: 4/7/2017 12:01:43 AM EDT
[#42]
I would take hands down the M4 over the M16 both in looks and function.
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Posted: 4/7/2017 12:46:09 AM EDT
[#43]
Different mission, different rifle. M16 is a sleeker looking rifle, but we didn't need to hang crap on it.
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Posted: 4/7/2017 1:33:09 AM EDT
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A basic M4 does have some appeal. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/M4e-177590.JPG |
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Posted: 4/7/2017 3:02:16 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryUm that is NOT ugly. I wish I could have an authentic one.
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Posted: 4/7/2017 3:49:40 AM EDT
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I like the M16's fixed smooth stock and simple hand guards. M4 with all of those rails and ribs looks ridiculous in my opinion. It has no style. Even HK fell for this sort of crap in recent years after making some of the sexiest weapons for decades. So many quality manufacturers are around, I dare you to bring some visual style back. Stop worrying about how much useless crap one can mount. HK needs to bring back the proprietary rails. We need an Apple like weapons manufacturer. Be different. Be a Steve Jobs of the gun world. I'm tired of going to the gun store and seeing a bunch of ugly M4s everywhere. 
Sleek and simple enough for you? |
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Posted: 4/7/2017 4:15:09 AM EDT
[#47]
They shoot better as well. Smoother recoil, run cooler due to physics.
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Posted: 4/7/2017 4:16:33 AM EDT
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Sorry bro but this seems absolutely ridiculous to me. The parts the military selected for the M4 was chosen off of capability, not how pretty it looks. I won't argue with you that an M16A2 looks prettier than an M4 carbine, but mount your weaponlight, LAM, and optic on an M16A2 with duct tape and see how well your zero's hold. |
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Posted: 4/7/2017 4:49:43 AM EDT
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Looking at how popular Key-Mod and M-Lok are I would say the industry is moving back to slimmer smoother lines already. 
Fucking hideous. |
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Posted: 4/7/2017 4:50:23 AM EDT
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But not style, Home Depot shelving (Keymod) vs. Wal Mart shelving (MLOK).
Fucking hideous. |
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