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Posted: 10/5/2015 1:04:44 PM EDT
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Basically,
-LWRC has that unicorn stigma -its got more handguard, which I would prefer -I would be getting it in OD Green (I have never had a non-black AR) -ambi controls are cool, right? I always have heard "LWRC is the shit" but never known someone who personally had one. |
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Posted: 10/5/2015 2:12:32 PM EDT
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I've had a number of LWRC's (IC, a couple A2's, an A3 upper and a REPR) I have pushed away from the entire line- sold traded all for SCAR-16 and 17 and back to DI uppers. The benefits of the IC, it was one of the first to come standard with total ambi controls (however, the ambi selector was sloppy and the bolt release was rough on mine from the factory) After that, you're getting more hand guard and that's about it unless you get the spiral fluted barrel) It has a suppressed setting on the front of the gas block- it's still over gassed if you do in fact run a can on it. The use of a quality adjustable gas block on a DI upper will far outweigh the benefits of the piston. Believe me, I used to sing LWRC's praises, but really if you have the Sig already (change your trigger out) you really aren't' gaining much beside handgaurd real estate. IMO. Just for grins, try a SCAR.
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Posted: 10/5/2015 9:50:57 PM EDT
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I have three LWRCs. Limited Edition M6IC, Six8 UCIW, 16" fluted barrel REPR. Love all three. All have the SSA-E trigger. A friend of mine has the M6IC enhanced, a friend of his has the Sig. They have shot each other's and the guy with the Sig said he liked the LWRC better fwiw.
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Posted: 10/5/2015 9:56:27 PM EDT
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I've had 2 M6ICs and a REPR ..... IMO at that price point I would be getting a KAC SR15 or a LaRue PredatAR/OBR
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Posted: 10/5/2015 9:57:22 PM EDT
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Yes...do it.
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Posted: 10/5/2015 11:55:17 PM EDT
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I've had 2 M6ICs and a REPR ..... IMO at that price point I would be getting a KAC SR15 or a LaRue PredatAR/OBR this would be ~$1700 |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 7:13:13 AM EDT
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i sold both of my Sig piston rifles and bought a FN SCAR17, i would go with the LWRC also
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Posted: 10/6/2015 7:45:38 AM EDT
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I've had 2 M6ICs and a REPR ..... IMO at that price point I would be getting a KAC SR15 or a LaRue PredatAR/OBR To me between KAC, LaRue & LWRC it is a matter of personal preference. I have shot the LaRue and it is a great piece. I have not shot the KAC, but have heard great things about them. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 7:51:09 AM EDT
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Short answer, yes.
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Posted: 10/6/2015 10:21:25 AM EDT
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Can someone explain how easily adjustable the LWRC IC A2's gas system is? That's one thing I like a lot about the Sig, it's easy.
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Posted: 10/6/2015 11:55:37 AM EDT
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Can someone explain how easily adjustable the LWRC IC A2's gas system is? That's one thing I like a lot about the Sig, it's easy. It's simple .... Takes all of 5 seconds .... Just rotate the tuning knob to your desired position |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 12:22:15 PM EDT
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It's simple .... Takes all of 5 seconds .... Just rotate the tuning knob to your desired position Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can someone explain how easily adjustable the LWRC IC A2's gas system is? That's one thing I like a lot about the Sig, it's easy. It's simple .... Takes all of 5 seconds .... Just rotate the tuning knob to your desired position Exactly, it even allows you to use the tip of a round to make the adjustment. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 2:15:30 PM EDT
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Exactly, it even allows you to use the tip of a round to make the adjustment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can someone explain how easily adjustable the LWRC IC A2's gas system is? That's one thing I like a lot about the Sig, it's easy. It's simple .... Takes all of 5 seconds .... Just rotate the tuning knob to your desired position Exactly, it even allows you to use the tip of a round to make the adjustment. so it has your typical, numbered/labeled, hard locking positions? Suppressed, closed, etc? Are the barrels that aren't fluted not as accurate? |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 2:51:45 PM EDT
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so it has your typical, numbered/labeled, hard locking positions? Suppressed, closed, etc? Are the barrels that aren't fluted not as accurate? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can someone explain how easily adjustable the LWRC IC A2's gas system is? That's one thing I like a lot about the Sig, it's easy. It's simple .... Takes all of 5 seconds .... Just rotate the tuning knob to your desired position Exactly, it even allows you to use the tip of a round to make the adjustment. so it has your typical, numbered/labeled, hard locking positions? Suppressed, closed, etc? Are the barrels that aren't fluted not as accurate? The ICA2 does not have an adjustable gas block. You need to upgrade to the IC Enhanced or the ICA5 for the adjustable gas block. With the IC-E and IC-A5, it is a nob at the edge of the rail, at the gas block. Horizontal is non-suppressed and vericle is suppressed. It is only a two position (suppressed and un-suppressed). There is a hole in the nob to permit a tool or bullet to be used to change the gas setting, under heat. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 9:43:13 PM EDT
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so it has your typical, numbered/labeled, hard locking positions? Suppressed, closed, etc? Are the barrels that aren't fluted not as accurate? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can someone explain how easily adjustable the LWRC IC A2's gas system is? That's one thing I like a lot about the Sig, it's easy. It's simple .... Takes all of 5 seconds .... Just rotate the tuning knob to your desired position Exactly, it even allows you to use the tip of a round to make the adjustment. so it has your typical, numbered/labeled, hard locking positions? Suppressed, closed, etc? Are the barrels that aren't fluted not as accurate? Fluted barrels are accurate, just lighter. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 11:48:38 PM EDT
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Can someone explain how easily adjustable the LWRC IC A2's gas system is? That's one thing I like a lot about the Sig, it's easy. It's simple .... Takes all of 5 seconds .... Just rotate the tuning knob to your desired position Exactly, it even allows you to use the tip of a round to make the adjustment. so it has your typical, numbered/labeled, hard locking positions? Suppressed, closed, etc? Are the barrels that aren't fluted not as accurate? Fluted barrels are accurate, just lighter. wasn't sure if they were .223 wylde, 1 in 8, etc they lack of an adjustable gas block kinda breaks the deal. the option is only good for the IC A2 |
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Posted: 10/7/2015 8:10:50 PM EDT
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I have a Sig 516 Patrol that is in great shape with very little use (<200 rounds) and am thinking about an LWRC IC A2 (piston 16" 5.56). This one has a NiB bolt and FCG, but the handguards are full quad (not the LWRC bolt on system) I'm guessing the difference to be about $350-400 that I will be out of pocket. Is that worth it? Not familiar with how these two piston systems are different. Running the risk of repeating what other posters said: 
I own both of these weapons systems and they both work well for me. They are both very tolerant of low quality ammo ( which is important for those of us who shoot a lot. If I were to do it all over again I am not sure I would have bought 2 LWRCS to my 2 SIG516s. They are great and I love'em (and they ahve nice snob appeal ;) ) but the Sig costs so much less is and 90% the rifle the LWRC is. Of course when I bought my LDUBS they were still going for 2.4k and the sigs for 1.5k If the difference was only 400 bucks I might go with LWRC again after all. Also the legacy M6A2 uppers can now be found new for a steal. Not adjustable gas but CHEAP and good. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 5:47:26 PM EDT
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Didn't Sig copy LWRC piston design on the gen 1 516's? I think I remember some kind of a lawsuit.
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Posted: 10/15/2015 8:14:50 PM EDT
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Didn't Sig copy LWRC piston design on the gen 1 516's? I think I remember some kind of a lawsuit. yes there was some notable copying going on. Thats why early Sig516 BCGs work in M6 (supposedly that is.... I never tried it personally even tho I own both) Sig has changed its BCG so it is now noticeably different than LWRCs |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 12:53:58 AM EDT
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Sold my LWRCs and went to PWS for piston guns.
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Posted: 10/16/2015 4:48:52 AM EDT
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Sold my LWRCs and went to PWS for piston guns. Good for you, I did the opposite. |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 6:21:14 AM EDT
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LWRC M6A2 here..... Excellent..!
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Posted: 10/17/2015 12:35:44 AM EDT
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Good for you, I did the opposite. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sold my LWRCs and went to PWS for piston guns. Good for you, I did the opposite. That's nice, I went with the better factory piston 
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Posted: 10/17/2015 5:00:26 AM EDT
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That's nice, I went with the better factory piston
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Sold my LWRCs and went to PWS for piston guns. Good for you, I did the opposite. That's nice, I went with the better factory piston
I prefer to not need a tool, or a bullet tip, to reach my regulator, and prefer to not have keymod. You can keep your perceived "better" rifle. Also, please keep this thread on topic, which was in regards to the OPs question, not which piston system you ditched. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 5:40:48 PM EDT
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The point May be moot now, but personally I'd keep the Sig.
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Posted: 10/18/2015 1:21:01 AM EDT
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Depends on what you want. I own a IC (with the bayonet lug gas block) and I dislike the current bolt on rail. Keep in mind you can't change quad rails since the IC uses a proprietary upper extension, though I believe the 516 is also in a similar situation.
The LWRC compact stock is nice though, as well as the ambi controls, though the right side safety may take some getting used to since it touches your trigger finger. I've gotten used to that, though the safety selector on mine is stiff compared to a normal one-sided safety. |
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Posted: 10/30/2015 6:45:36 PM EDT
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I own an IC and an S-L (uppers). I love these two, but I don't think I would sell the 516 to get one. You can get an aftermarket rail for the SIG if you want more "real estate."
The "S-L" is still evolving: 
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Posted: 10/31/2015 9:24:13 PM EDT
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Running the risk of repeating what other posters said:
I own both of these weapons systems and they both work well for me. They are both very tolerant of low quality ammo ( which is important for those of us who shoot a lot. If I were to do it all over again I am not sure I would have bought 2 LWRCS to my 2 SIG516s. They are great and I love'em (and they ahve nice snob appeal ;) ) but the Sig costs so much less is and 90% the rifle the LWRC is. Of course when I bought my LDUBS they were still going for 2.4k and the sigs for 1.5k If the difference was only 400 bucks I might go with LWRC again after all. Also the legacy M6A2 uppers can now be found new for a steal. Not adjustable gas but CHEAP and good. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a Sig 516 Patrol that is in great shape with very little use (<200 rounds) and am thinking about an LWRC IC A2 (piston 16" 5.56). This one has a NiB bolt and FCG, but the handguards are full quad (not the LWRC bolt on system) I'm guessing the difference to be about $350-400 that I will be out of pocket. Is that worth it? Not familiar with how these two piston systems are different. Running the risk of repeating what other posters said:
I own both of these weapons systems and they both work well for me. They are both very tolerant of low quality ammo ( which is important for those of us who shoot a lot. If I were to do it all over again I am not sure I would have bought 2 LWRCS to my 2 SIG516s. They are great and I love'em (and they ahve nice snob appeal ;) ) but the Sig costs so much less is and 90% the rifle the LWRC is. Of course when I bought my LDUBS they were still going for 2.4k and the sigs for 1.5k If the difference was only 400 bucks I might go with LWRC again after all. Also the legacy M6A2 uppers can now be found new for a steal. Not adjustable gas but CHEAP and good. No kidding on the recent prices of the complete LWRC uppers. I got my M6A2-S for just $699. Mid-gas, nice NiB BCG, nice handguard, and other nice features. Slapped it on a complete $499 POF lower with an awesome trigger group, anti-tilt buffer, Magpul ACS stock, ambi controls, and more. For $1200 total, it's a deal that was hard to beat. Prices are nuts at this point in time. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 7:38:37 PM EDT
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Huh , it's been a while since I've been on here . There use to be lots of love for LWRC . I think last time I was on here was around when Colt was possibly buying them , and at that time it seemed a little less warm for LWRC . Well any way my LWRC's have had no issues and I'm liking them . Carry on
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Posted: 11/30/2015 1:12:41 PM EDT
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Huh , it's been a while since I've been on here . There use to be lots of love for LWRC . I think last time I was on here was around when Colt was possibly buying them , and at that time it seemed a little less warm for LWRC . Well any way my LWRC's have had no issues and I'm liking them . Carry on That may be because LWRC at one point was one of the few choices for reliable, well appointed, piston op ARs and a manufacturer who also offered them in many lengths, NATO and non-NATO calibers. Fast forward a decade or so and everyone is in the game. The low end players have increased their quality enough to the point that LWRCs look a touch overpriced to anyone who isn't in the professional market. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 6:03:57 PM EDT
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That may be because LWRC at one point was one of the few choices for reliable, well appointed, piston op ARs and a manufacturer who also offered them in many lengths, NATO and non-NATO calibers. Fast forward a decade or so and everyone is in the game. The low end players have increased their quality enough to the point that LWRCs look a touch overpriced to anyone who isn't in the professional market. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Huh , it's been a while since I've been on here . There use to be lots of love for LWRC . I think last time I was on here was around when Colt was possibly buying them , and at that time it seemed a little less warm for LWRC . Well any way my LWRC's have had no issues and I'm liking them . Carry on That may be because LWRC at one point was one of the few choices for reliable, well appointed, piston op ARs and a manufacturer who also offered them in many lengths, NATO and non-NATO calibers. Fast forward a decade or so and everyone is in the game. The low end players have increased their quality enough to the point that LWRCs look a touch overpriced to anyone who isn't in the professional market. That sums it up. When I ordered my first LWRC, my friends thought I was nuts for paying that much. Once they held and shot it, they could see/feel that it is worth it. |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 2:09:47 AM EDT
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Good stuff is good stuff!
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Posted: 12/1/2015 8:02:49 AM EDT
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The low end players have increased their quality enough to the point that LWRCs look a touch overpriced to anyone who isn't in the professional market. The 516 has enough domestic and international use that I'd put it in the "professional market" category. |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 7:14:21 PM EDT
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I have a 516 and like it, but yes, rail "real estate" is a bit lacking.
I've never owned or shot an LWRC, but from what I've seen of their piston design, I prefer Sig's. My thoughts, unless the LWRC has a feature or something specific you want that the Sig lacks, there's no reason to switch. |
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Posted: 12/12/2015 1:53:37 PM EDT
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i own both the SIG 516 + LWRC M6A2 SPR. I don't see $500 worth of difference between the two. Both have been trouble free and accuracy is about the same.
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