Posted: 7/30/2014 11:17:02 AM EDT
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The nitrocarborizing is superior to chrome lining in every way. It's not a lining it's a treatment of the actual metal so it can't flake or come off in any way. Everything said is spot on. The only down side, if there is a down side, is of you want the look of stainless you'll have to have it ceracoated after the fact as all QPQed (Quench Polish Quench, btw) steels, be it CM, CMV, or stainless, all come out a shade of black, typically in the graphite range. That makes sense if you understand the process as carbon and nitrogen molecules are trapped in the metal matrix when the metal is expanded through heating. This functionally makes any carbon steel a stainless product without the Ni or Cr additions typical of stainless, but the process works just fine on stainless as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quote History Quoted:
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Here are 2 complete Adams Arms Uppers that may float your boat:
http://www.adamsarms.net/16-carbine-tactical-elite-upper
http://www.adamsarms.net/16-carbine-tactical-evo-upper
Unlike that POF you linked on gunbroker, they'll be new and unsullied. Also that POF looks like a an old model, but I'm not sure.
Also the melonite treated barrels Adams Arms uses are, arguably, as good or better than chrome-lined barrels.
LOL, rather than "as good or better" I'd say "better or maybe much better". QPQ has a higher rockwell hardness, lower coefficient of friction, and greater corrosion resistance all of which lead to longer life and less wear. But that's just the physics behind it. I can't speak to the emotional bonds people have with finishes.
I won't say "You HAVE to get X brand." That's up to you in the end. But you won't go wrong with Adams Arms. It's not a third rate or something. IF you choose any other brand, you probably won't go wrong either assuming it's not a back alley knock off brand like LVVRC (ps that's 2 V's not a W) or Ardams Arms or Parrotriot Ordinarce... You know some knock off trying to look like a name brand.
<nodding like I know to agree, because I do>
The nitrocarborizing is superior to chrome lining in every way. It's not a lining it's a treatment of the actual metal so it can't flake or come off in any way. Everything said is spot on. The only down side, if there is a down side, is of you want the look of stainless you'll have to have it ceracoated after the fact as all QPQed (Quench Polish Quench, btw) steels, be it CM, CMV, or stainless, all come out a shade of black, typically in the graphite range. That makes sense if you understand the process as carbon and nitrogen molecules are trapped in the metal matrix when the metal is expanded through heating. This functionally makes any carbon steel a stainless product without the Ni or Cr additions typical of stainless, but the process works just fine on stainless as well.
I guess if I had to mention an issue with QPQ it'd be more of the preparation process involved. A lot of these barrels are button rifled (Adams Arms). And that leaves minute burrs in the ridges. If the barrel isn't lapped and polished correctly, once the QPQ is done those burrs are set forever. Or at least as long as you'll be alive to notice. So that polish stage is crucial to be sure the burrs are cleaned out correctly. Less of an issue with a hammer forged barrel that is QPQ'd. I'm not a hard core tacticalisious operatorizor, so you can take my comments for what they cost you. I'm just a low speed high drag non-operator with a physics degree. My personal perfect barrel would be a cold hammer forged QPQ'd barrel if you're looking for longevity and durability.
PS to the OP, check here:
http://lanbosarmory.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=12_23
Don't be fooled by the price listed. Add stuff to the cart and you'll see a big price drop. You might find something you like, cheap.
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