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Posted: 1/7/2015 3:50:39 PM EDT
Weapon Outfitters top tier 13.7" Barrels
We've been huge fans of the 13.7" barrel along with BE Meyers 249F and Noveskse KX5 combo, as both of these top tier muzzle devices mate personally to produce 16.1" long barrels when pinned/welded onto 13.7" barrels. The BE Meyers 249F used to be available only to special operations forces, and has been shown by testing by Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) as well as published 3rd parties to be the most effective flash hider on the market. The Noveske KX5 greatly reduces blast and concussion to the user, especially with the high pressure 5.56 rifle. It makes one's rifle far more comfortable to shoot, especially in close quarters. We recently had a run of top tier barrels done utilizing a new, patented rifling which produces greatly velocity and superior accuracy thanks greater symmtery on passing bullets. Furthermore, the barrel blanks are heat treated 4150 CMV, machine gun grade steel, which is further strengthened through nitriding, aka "meloniting" which further hardens the steel and makes it nearly impervious to corrosion and rust. Our barrels feature a 5.56 chamber, M4 feed ramps, and a 1/7" twist rate; ideal for stabilizing heavier bullets used by MIL/LEO units. These barrels featuring a medium contour for the two pronged benefits of greater accuracy, as well as stability at higher temperatures. As a result, these barrels are an excellent choice for a RECCE gun, a relatively compact 3-Gun rifle, or a general purpose carbine with a bias towards accuracy.
We are also offering this barrel as a combo with BE Meyers 249F flash hiders! Available Here |
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Good catch. You're right. 5.56 chamber with 1/7" twist. I'll amend the original posting.
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i think you might have made the unicorn barrel everyone was looking for:
4150 CMV-check 1:7 twist-check Polygonal rifling for better velocity=check Hammer forged(im assuming)-check..................correct me if im wrong but it cant be cut due to the smooth rifling of poly right? Nitrided-check available in 10.5 or 16............ |
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Are you going to have barrels with these features in 16" length?
And is this flash hider compatible with a gemtech Halo? It looks like it might be too long. |
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Are you going to have barrels with these features in 16" length? And is this flash hider compatible with a gemtech Halo? It looks like it might be too long. View Quote Me and the BE Meyers crew are pals with Gemtech, and while it will work with the HALO, it is a tad too long for my tastes: doesn't engage enough of the thread IMHO. That being said, the fine folks at BEM have used it with the HALO at carbine classes with me to good effect |
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i think you might have made the unicorn barrel everyone was looking for: 4150 CMV-check 1:7 twist-check Polygonal rifling for better velocity=check Hammer forged(im assuming)-check..................correct me if im wrong but it cant be cut due to the smooth rifling of poly right? Nitrided-check available in 10.5 or 16............ View Quote These barrels are NOT hammer forged unfortunately! Did manage to get everything else though! A few friends have expressed the desire for other lengths... I think I might do it! |
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Nice!
Just had a DD barrel cut down. If only you'd been a few months sooner, I could have saved some cash. It's a pretty sweet combo. |
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An option on your site has your gunsmith pinning the gas block and muzzle device. How would I handle the barrel nut install ?
Do I mail my rails proprietary nut to you so as to be installed prior to the pinning ? |
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An option on your site has your gunsmith pinning the gas block and muzzle device. How would I handle the barrel nut install ? Do I mail my rails proprietary nut to you so as to be installed prior to the pinning ? View Quote Send in the barrel nut along with an order number/invoice when you buy the service and products! Will need the barrel nut in place prior to muzzle device pinning for sure! The address is on our website, but for posterity, is Weapon Outfitters 13216 SE 32nd St Bellevue WA 98005 |
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Send in the barrel nut along with an order number/invoice when you buy the service and products! Will need the barrel nut in place prior to muzzle device pinning for sure! The address is on our website, but for posterity, is Weapon Outfitters 13216 SE 32nd St Bellevue WA 98005 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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An option on your site has your gunsmith pinning the gas block and muzzle device. How would I handle the barrel nut install ? Do I mail my rails proprietary nut to you so as to be installed prior to the pinning ? Send in the barrel nut along with an order number/invoice when you buy the service and products! Will need the barrel nut in place prior to muzzle device pinning for sure! The address is on our website, but for posterity, is Weapon Outfitters 13216 SE 32nd St Bellevue WA 98005 Great! Thanks. |
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Oh dang. Would definitely buy in either 10.5 or 11.5. Considering the Micro MOA barrel right now, but it's still a while off while my wallet recovers from the last build.
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Looks nice. Thanks for the Melonite feature. I think this should be more standard with barrels.
But I got to thinking.. Shorter barrel = More flash/noise/less FPS = Longer Flash hider needed. Why not just a 14.5 with a flash hider to get it to 16" hehe. I'm still looking for a melonite 14.5 1:8 or 1:9 twist barrel :/ |
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Looks like a lot of folks and friends have been asking for shorter barrels!
What's the allure, the polygonal rifling for extra velocity? |
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Really interested in this barrel.
What can you tell me about the 13.7" with midlength gas system? Seems like a great combination of keeping a compact package with a longer, smoother gas system. How has the cycling been with various ammo? What buffer/spring combos have been used? ETA: Is barrel dimpled for GB installation? |
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The patent is an interesting read, combination of conventional and polygon rifling applied using the button rifle process. I had looked at polygon for .22's years ago but was impractical to button rifle in its original form. A big "well done" to Feddersen for altering the basic polygon to work. Care to share test results showing the velocity improvement over conventional rifling? If not, that's fine, not doubting just curious.
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Any pix available of your neat/clean pin/weld jobs. I've seen some real gunplumber jobs out there where they actually welded the FH/Comp etc. to the barrel. Nothing worse than paying for a quality job and then having BUBBA lay down a big old blob.
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I am thinking this barrel with the older YHM QD mounts would be perfect since they have a 1/2x28 threaded 762 mount that is over 3 inches:
https://www.primaryarms.com/Yankee_Hill_Machine_Flash_Hider_Phantom_7_62_Quick_p/yhm-3302-28a.htm which should be enough to get to 16+ inches... then run one of these when they come in stock (any ETA on these BTW?): http://www.weaponoutfitters.com/sss-qd-brake-shield-yhm-mounts-308.html Assuming the outside diameter of that brake shield is the same as the YHM TI 762 it should fit real nice under a BAR/ Seekins MCSR rail so I dont banana peel the rail when I'm not shooting suppressed. |
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This is the exact barrel I have been looking for. In 300 Blackout.
The treated engraving being inline with the gas port leads me to believe that the barrel was nitrided after the barrel extension was torqued on. Is that the case? |
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Really interested in this barrel. What can you tell me about the 13.7" with midlength gas system? Seems like a great combination of keeping a compact package with a longer, smoother gas system. How has the cycling been with various ammo? What buffer/spring combos have been used? ETA: Is barrel dimpled for GB installation? View Quote I'm definitely interested in this barrel. Do they have other muzzle attachment options for pinning/welding? |
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Bought one of your B.E. Meyers flash hiders and put it on a stainless 13.7 carbine barrel 1/7 twist.
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Really interested in this barrel. What can you tell me about the 13.7" with midlength gas system? Seems like a great combination of keeping a compact package with a longer, smoother gas system. How has the cycling been with various ammo? What buffer/spring combos have been used? ETA: Is barrel dimpled for GB installation? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Really interested in this barrel. What can you tell me about the 13.7" with midlength gas system? Seems like a great combination of keeping a compact package with a longer, smoother gas system. How has the cycling been with various ammo? What buffer/spring combos have been used? ETA: Is barrel dimpled for GB installation? I've just been using my standard go to: Sprinco blue spring with H buffer. We weren't the first to do 13.7" with middy though, Noveske does it in their Infidel barrel as well. Quoted:
The patent is an interesting read, combination of conventional and polygon rifling applied using the button rifle process. I had looked at polygon for .22's years ago but was impractical to button rifle in its original form. A big "well done" to Feddersen for altering the basic polygon to work. Care to share test results showing the velocity improvement over conventional rifling? If not, that's fine, not doubting just curious. Same tech allows for a 12.5" midlength to run: I'm thinking i'll try and hit the range this coming week with a 14.5" with a TRACK barrel (Micro MOA) and a standard CHF barrel to compare velocities. Finally sunny in Seattle! Quoted:
I am thinking this barrel with the older YHM QD mounts would be perfect since they have a 1/2x28 threaded 762 mount that is over 3 inches: https://www.primaryarms.com/Yankee_Hill_Machine_Flash_Hider_Phantom_7_62_Quick_p/yhm-3302-28a.htm which should be enough to get to 16+ inches... then run one of these when they come in stock (any ETA on these BTW?): http://www.weaponoutfitters.com/sss-qd-brake-shield-yhm-mounts-308.html Assuming the outside diameter of that brake shield is the same as the YHM TI 762 it should fit real nice under a BAR/ Seekins MCSR rail so I dont banana peel the rail when I'm not shooting suppressed. 1.6" Outside Diameter on the 7.62 Brake shields! Quoted:
This is the exact barrel I have been looking for. In 300 Blackout. The treated engraving being inline with the gas port leads me to believe that the barrel was nitrided after the barrel extension was torqued on. Is that the case? Not the first to ask! Answer straight from manufacturer is "all barrels are re-torqued when they get back from nitriding and then the index pin is installed." |
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You guys need to hound V7 or 2A Armament to make a BE Meyers length titanium muzzle device. And also you should make a pencil profile version of your barrel.
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safe to assume that the surefire mb556 is not long enough to make a 16.1" barrel?
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safe to assume that the surefire mb556 is not long enough to make a 16.1" barrel? View Quote Comes close but no cigar. During testing, I noticed that most muzzle devices are really, really long. A 13.9" or 14" barrel might do it for people wanting to cut it close. I'm thinking we'll continue producing these for folks who want top tier accuracy and to use the BE Meyers 249F which remains unbeaten in flash suppression (per SOCOM and 3rd party testing), but might go for 14" in RECCE and LW profiles |
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Quoted: Comes close but no cigar. During testing, I noticed that most muzzle devices are really, really long. A 13.9" or 14" barrel might do it for people wanting to cut it close. I'm thinking we'll continue producing these for folks who want top tier accuracy and to use the BE Meyers 249F which remains unbeaten in flash suppression (per SOCOM and 3rd party testing), but might go for 14" in RECCE and LW profiles View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: safe to assume that the surefire mb556 is not long enough to make a 16.1" barrel? Comes close but no cigar. During testing, I noticed that most muzzle devices are really, really long. A 13.9" or 14" barrel might do it for people wanting to cut it close. I'm thinking we'll continue producing these for folks who want top tier accuracy and to use the BE Meyers 249F which remains unbeaten in flash suppression (per SOCOM and 3rd party testing), but might go for 14" in RECCE and LW profiles |
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The patent is an interesting read, combination of conventional and polygon rifling applied using the button rifle process. I had looked at polygon for .22's years ago but was impractical to button rifle in its original form. A big "well done" to Feddersen for altering the basic polygon to work. Care to share test results showing the velocity improvement over conventional rifling? If not, that's fine, not doubting just curious. View Quote Feddersen is making these barrels? |
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