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Posted: 11/19/2014 1:11:42 AM EDT
Introducing - Mega Arms Slide Lock Charging Handle
[*** Click on the link below for ordering info and pricing *** Description: Introducing the new Mega Arms Slide Lock charging handle (Patent Pending) featuring full ambidextrous operation and some of the fewest moving parts of any charging handle on the market. *** CLICK HERE to take me to the Rainier Arms website *** 
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Posted: 11/19/2014 4:29:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/19/2014 7:32:55 AM EDT
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How does it confront two issues: inadvertently popping open from gas pressure, and wearing out the charging handle latch pocket in the upper reciever?
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Posted: 11/19/2014 8:14:59 AM EDT
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How does it confront two issues: inadvertently popping open from gas pressure, and wearing out the charging handle latch pocket in the upper reciever? I've never heard of the handle popping open from gas pressure. What else is going on to cause this? Is it a combo of pressure and worn out pocket and/or latch? Also, I assume this is only for the ar15, and not MaTen and other 308 receivers? |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 5:08:01 PM EDT
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how does this differ from Sintercore's Tripwire?
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Posted: 11/19/2014 10:49:10 PM EDT
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I've never heard of the handle popping open from gas pressure. What else is going on to cause this? Is it a combo of pressure and worn out pocket and/or latch? Also, I assume this is only for the ar15, and not MaTen and other 308 receivers? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How does it confront two issues: inadvertently popping open from gas pressure, and wearing out the charging handle latch pocket in the upper reciever? I've never heard of the handle popping open from gas pressure. What else is going on to cause this? Is it a combo of pressure and worn out pocket and/or latch? Also, I assume this is only for the ar15, and not MaTen and other 308 receivers? It's more of an issue for suppressed guns. Same reason that people who shoot suppressed do the RTV mod. |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 11:09:50 PM EDT
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how does this differ from Sintercore's Tripwire? http://sintercore.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/standaloneSlider.jpg Sinter core uses a 3d printed polymer latch if that matters. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 12:10:38 AM EDT
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I will buy one of these.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 1:30:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: how does this differ from Sintercore's Tripwire? http://sintercore.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/standaloneSlider.jpg |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 1:34:06 AM EDT
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Their website says they have halted sales do to the Mega release. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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how does this differ from Sintercore's Tripwire? http://sintercore.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/standaloneSlider.jpg Where does Sinter say that? I'm not seeing it here |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:50:19 AM EDT
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I wonder how it would do in combat. Has it been extensively tested? I'd hate to have the charging handle rattling around while you're running around trying not to get your dick shot off. If it's combat ready, watch out BCM/VLTOR & RAPTOR.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 6:47:56 AM EDT
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Isn't SLR Rifleworks offering similar too ?
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Posted: 11/20/2014 7:35:08 AM EDT
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Isn't SLR Rifleworks offering similar too ? I think the Renegade uses a sort of flat spring only (with a little synthetic bushing). I don't recall there being even a roll pin pivot point on the Renegade. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 8:19:24 AM EDT
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As a LH shooter that loves the Raptor, but not the cost, this CH interests the hell out of me.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 9:13:56 AM EDT
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Price?
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Posted: 11/20/2014 9:18:38 AM EDT
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I think the Renegade uses a sort of flat spring only (with a little synthetic bushing). I don't recall there being even a roll pin pivot point on the Renegade. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Isn't SLR Rifleworks offering similar too ? I think the Renegade uses a sort of flat spring only (with a little synthetic bushing). I don't recall there being even a roll pin pivot point on the Renegade. It uses a ball bearing tensioned with a flat spring. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 7:31:26 PM EDT
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how does this differ from Sintercore's Tripwire? http://sintercore.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/standaloneSlider.jpg Where does Sinter say that? I'm not seeing it here It shows on mine. Further production is halted until we determine patent status of MEGA Arms’ just-released charging handle with identical design It will be interesting to see how this turns out. I was excited when I heard about the SLR but then read that it likes to eat away material on the upper.  Let's hope Mega and Sintercore can get this sorted out.
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Posted: 11/20/2014 8:36:24 PM EDT
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It uses a ball bearing tensioned with a flat spring. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Isn't SLR Rifleworks offering similar too ? I think the Renegade uses a sort of flat spring only (with a little synthetic bushing). I don't recall there being even a roll pin pivot point on the Renegade. It uses a ball bearing tensioned with a flat spring. Its actually a detent. Not a ball bearing |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 11:17:28 PM EDT
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Any word on MSRP?
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Posted: 11/22/2014 3:51:38 AM EDT
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Any word on MSRP? They said it would be cheaper than the rest of the ambi charging handles, and the cheapest I can think of is the BCM charging handle at $35. |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 4:04:27 AM EDT
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They said it would be cheaper than the rest of the ambi charging handles, and the cheapest I can think of is the BCM charging handle at $35. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any word on MSRP? They said it would be cheaper than the rest of the ambi charging handles, and the cheapest I can think of is the BCM charging handle at $35. For the BCM ambi? msrp is 70... |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 6:41:19 AM EDT
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Any word on MSRP? Over on WEVO they're saying ~$40. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 9:41:44 AM EDT
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How exactly does it work? Does the latch actually lift up and unhook from the upper receiver or does it just slide over the charging handle latch tab when it's pulled back?
The pictures make it look like the latch doesn't lock in like a standard one. Look at the latch on the Noveske Raptor below and compare it to the Mega latch picture in the OP. The picture showing the bottom of the Mega charging handle shows the latch having a shallow angle on the hook compared to the 90 degree angle on the raptor. 
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Posted: 11/23/2014 9:43:35 AM EDT
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How exactly does it work? Does the latch actually lift up and unhook from the upper receiver or does it just slide over the charging handle latch tab when it's pulled back? The pictured make it look like the latch doesn't lock in like a standard one. Look at the latch on the Noveske Raptor below and compare it to the Mega latch picture in the OP. http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0259/2561/products/011_nvprod1-11_1024x1024.jpg?v=1383790079 The hook is rounded so it acts like a detent. You pull back and the latch levers itself out of the way due to the rounded edge. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 9:46:26 AM EDT
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The hook is rounded so it acts like a detent. You pull back and the latch levers itself out of the way due to the rounded edge. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How exactly does it work? Does the latch actually lift up and unhook from the upper receiver or does it just slide over the charging handle latch tab when it's pulled back? The pictured make it look like the latch doesn't lock in like a standard one. Look at the latch on the Noveske Raptor below and compare it to the Mega latch picture in the OP. http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0259/2561/products/011_nvprod1-11_1024x1024.jpg?v=1383790079 The hook is rounded so it acts like a detent. You pull back and the latch levers itself out of the way due to the rounded edge. So it does not actually lock down like the other latches then. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 9:49:06 AM EDT
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So it does not actually lock down like the other latches then. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How exactly does it work? Does the latch actually lift up and unhook from the upper receiver or does it just slide over the charging handle latch tab when it's pulled back? The pictured make it look like the latch doesn't lock in like a standard one. Look at the latch on the Noveske Raptor below and compare it to the Mega latch picture in the OP. http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0259/2561/products/011_nvprod1-11_1024x1024.jpg?v=1383790079 The hook is rounded so it acts like a detent. You pull back and the latch levers itself out of the way due to the rounded edge. So it does not actually lock down like the other latches then. No, it works more like the SLR and Sintercore. If the tension is right it's not going to just pop loose. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 6:22:35 PM EDT
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No, it works more like the SLR and Sintercore. If the tension is right it's not going to just pop loose. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How exactly does it work? Does the latch actually lift up and unhook from the upper receiver or does it just slide over the charging handle latch tab when it's pulled back? The pictured make it look like the latch doesn't lock in like a standard one. Look at the latch on the Noveske Raptor below and compare it to the Mega latch picture in the OP. http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0259/2561/products/011_nvprod1-11_1024x1024.jpg?v=1383790079 The hook is rounded so it acts like a detent. You pull back and the latch levers itself out of the way due to the rounded edge. So it does not actually lock down like the other latches then. No, it works more like the SLR and Sintercore. If the tension is right it's not going to just pop loose. But if the tension is wrong, it's going to not lock in when shooting if too loose, or cause premature wear to the receiver catch similar to the SLR Renegade if too tight |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 5:46:24 AM EDT
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But if the tension is wrong, it's going to not lock in when shooting if too loose, or cause premature wear to the receiver catch similar to the SLR Renegade if too tight Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How exactly does it work? Does the latch actually lift up and unhook from the upper receiver or does it just slide over the charging handle latch tab when it's pulled back? The pictured make it look like the latch doesn't lock in like a standard one. Look at the latch on the Noveske Raptor below and compare it to the Mega latch picture in the OP. http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0259/2561/products/011_nvprod1-11_1024x1024.jpg?v=1383790079 The hook is rounded so it acts like a detent. You pull back and the latch levers itself out of the way due to the rounded edge. So it does not actually lock down like the other latches then. No, it works more like the SLR and Sintercore. If the tension is right it's not going to just pop loose. But if the tension is wrong, it's going to not lock in when shooting if too loose, or cause premature wear to the receiver catch similar to the SLR Renegade if too tight In hardened steel (as in a steel upper) this would probably work a lot better, but with aluminum you have that delicate balance, and you have to worry about wearing out the aluminum if you are too tight or cycle it too many times. Once you round out the latch pocket corners, that changes the balance of spring pressure required to keep the handle locked. It seems like one part has to be sacrificial and wear prone, either the upper or the latch, and in either case you have replaced a system that doesn't wear out with one that needs maintenance. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 8:11:12 PM EDT
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I wonder how it would do in combat. Has it been extensively tested? I'd hate to have the charging handle rattling around while you're running around trying not to get your dick shot off. If it's combat ready, watch out BCM/VLTOR & RAPTOR. Even plain old milspec CH's have a decent bit of play around the latch area, and it varies with the tolerances on aftermarket CH's. Regardless, the CH should stay in position as long as your bolt is forward. |
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Posted: 11/30/2014 12:45:18 AM EDT
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I'm sure Mega has done their fair share of R&D on this one. They are a top notch manufacturer. I'm sure it's legit and won't cause premature wear on the upper.
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Posted: 12/5/2014 11:42:22 AM EDT
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I wonder how this will pan out between Metga Arms and Sintercore? It really seems like they both designed an almost identical product at similar times. I have a Sintercore charging handle from the 1st batch and glad I didn't hold off for reviews before locking my order in.
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Posted: 12/10/2014 2:33:49 AM EDT
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If you could put a small progressive rate coil and set screw in front of the pivot point, tension could be adjustable to a degree. Don't know if its possible on a spring that small though and be able to keep the handle a comfortable size.
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Posted: 12/10/2014 10:36:49 AM EDT
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Anyone heard an ETA?
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Posted: 12/13/2014 2:47:56 AM EDT
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Anyone heard an ETA? We are hearing the end of this month or possibly early next month. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 1:12:08 PM EDT
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Thanks! I'm looking forward to trying one - my 20" bipod rifle will be a perfect host.
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Posted: 12/13/2014 6:40:13 PM EDT
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I'll get one to try out when they're released.
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Posted: 12/19/2014 1:01:08 AM EDT
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I'll get one to try out when they're released. Sweet! 
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Posted: 12/19/2014 1:14:34 AM EDT
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I'll get one to try out when they're released. Sweet! So are they out? I want one to try as well |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 2:24:31 AM EDT
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So are they out? I want one to try as well Not yet, but when they are released we will make an announcement here.
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:47:10 PM EDT
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I'm sure Mega has done their fair share of R&D on this one. They are a top notch manufacturer. I'm sure it's legit and won't cause premature wear on the upper. I respect Mega a lot, but after the RAM paint washed off the F117 in the rain, and the F35 can't run if the fuel sits in the tank in the sun because it's "too warm", well...trust but verify. Can you show us this alleged R&D? Can Mega? I'm not asking for the moon, I just want pictures of an upper with "X" number of cycles on it or something. Trust but verify, no disrespect intended. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 6:56:20 PM EDT
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I respect Mega a lot, but after the RAM paint washed off the F117 in the rain, and the F35 can't run if the fuel sits in the tank in the sun because it's "too warm", well...trust but verify. Can you show us this alleged R&D? Can Mega? I'm not asking for the moon, I just want pictures of an upper with "X" number of cycles on it or something. Trust but verify, no disrespect intended. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure Mega has done their fair share of R&D on this one. They are a top notch manufacturer. I'm sure it's legit and won't cause premature wear on the upper. I respect Mega a lot, but after the RAM paint washed off the F117 in the rain, and the F35 can't run if the fuel sits in the tank in the sun because it's "too warm", well...trust but verify. Can you show us this alleged R&D? Can Mega? I'm not asking for the moon, I just want pictures of an upper with "X" number of cycles on it or something. Trust but verify, no disrespect intended. Uppers are cheap, charging handles are cheap, I'm willing to do the R&D for them. 
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Posted: 12/21/2014 1:27:23 PM EDT
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Uppers are cheap, charging handles are cheap, I'm willing to do the R&D for them.
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Posted: 12/26/2014 12:13:15 PM EDT
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Any word? Does it look like it's going to be this year?
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Posted: 12/27/2014 1:17:57 PM EDT
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Any word? Does it look like it's going to be this year? Haven't heard. I would imagine there would be significant push at or following SHOT. |
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Posted: 12/30/2014 11:40:09 PM EDT
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I've wanted a Raptor for a while but I've never bought one due to the price. I'm VERY interested in this though! :)
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Posted: 12/31/2014 1:55:07 AM EDT
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I've wanted a Raptor for a while but I've never bought one due to the price. I'm VERY interested in this though! :) The price point on these should be really good! |
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Posted: 12/31/2014 1:32:18 PM EDT
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I contacted Mega through Facebook, and they said they think MSRP will be $60. I was thinking it would come in a little better than that.
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Posted: 12/31/2014 2:23:38 PM EDT
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I contacted Mega through Facebook, and they said they think MSRP will be $60. I was thinking it would come in a little better than that. I was hoping for around $40 (street price)... But as an engineer in R&D, a years worth of R&D isn't cheap... |
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Posted: 12/31/2014 2:31:34 PM EDT
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That's the price point I was looking for as well.
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Posted: 12/31/2014 11:43:35 PM EDT
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Love Mega...but I think I love the Renegade more from SLR. Really awesome charger. Feels and functions amazing.
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Posted: 12/31/2014 11:55:11 PM EDT
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I contacted Mega through Facebook, and they said they think MSRP will be $60. I was thinking it would come in a little better than that. I think they will. Look out for the introductory pricing once they are released. 
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