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Posted: 11/8/2014 7:40:02 PM EDT
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Any news on if this fits under a BCM KMR?
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Posted: 11/9/2014 11:23:05 AM EDT
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Any news on if this fits under a BCM KMR? From the size comparison, it won't. It's taller than the KMR. |
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Posted: 11/9/2014 2:19:03 PM EDT
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Any news on if this fits under a BCM KMR? I spoke to Ben at Bravo on Friday. He is either sending me the internal dims. w/ tol. of the KMR or sending me a HG. If he is going to send me a HG I will pay to have it shipped next day to get you guys an answer ASAP. He said he would have me an answer to me tomorrow (Mon.). Once I receive his answer I will update the statues on this thread. I determine if it does/ doesn't fit them will notify here. Please be patient, I am on it. I want to know as bad as you guys do.  Thank you.
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Posted: 11/9/2014 2:45:08 PM EDT
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Thank you for the quick reply. Not sure if you would remember who I am, but we spoke about 7-8 months ago about an AR Piston Build I am doing as a tribute to my dog...... Everything is ready to go, I have just been waiting for your piston system all this time. You did a great job!
May I ask who is doing the Nickel Boron Plating for the batch you are getting done? |
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Posted: 11/9/2014 3:17:57 PM EDT
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Will this be available in sizes besides .750? You never answered JoshAston's question. 
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Posted: 11/9/2014 3:28:48 PM EDT
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Finish is QPQ? The block, plug, and rod are QPQed. The remaining parts are Ion Bond. |
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Posted: 11/9/2014 3:30:01 PM EDT
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Sooo, phosphate then? None of the parts are Mag. Phos. nor do I plan on using that finish. |
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Posted: 11/9/2014 3:32:10 PM EDT
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I too have dumped my AA XLP kit. It was a pain to make it compatible with a my MI rail. I worry about how long it would keep running before issues with the rod bushing. Main reasons for switching over to this: 1. Compatibility! SO has a superior design. 2. WEIGHT. the AA XLP kit is heavy as shit. 3. 16 pos vs 5 pos. I tried the xlp on two of my rifles. One had to run wide open. Recoil was increased over my SO adjustable gas block. 4. Price. Jason, I already pre ordered as one of the first 100. I want to upgrade to NIB!!! PM me for my email! Also, is there a light weight carrier option? This will go on my santan upper and lower, i will post pics once I verify it is reliable. Thanks! We will have a Low Mass Carrier available by the end of the yr if not sooner. |
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Posted: 11/9/2014 3:36:55 PM EDT
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Thank you for the quick reply. Not sure if you would remember who I am, but we spoke about 7-8 months ago about an AR Piston Build I am doing as a tribute to my dog...... Everything is ready to go, I have just been waiting for your piston system all this time. You did a great job! May I ask who is doing the Nickel Boron Plating for the batch you are getting done? I do remember. I am happy to hear you were patient! We use WMD Guns. |
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Posted: 11/9/2014 3:43:57 PM EDT
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Approximately when will the solid set screw version be available? Currently they will be ready to ship in 3 wks, pending any unforeseen outside processing issues. |
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Posted: 11/9/2014 4:03:27 PM EDT
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You never answered JoshAston's question. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Will this be available in sizes besides .750? You never answered JoshAston's question. |
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Posted: 11/9/2014 11:13:37 PM EDT
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sigh....this site costs me soo much money!! I was wanting to get a good adjustable drop in kit! Any chance a sale or discount code coming around any time soon?
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Posted: 11/10/2014 6:36:27 PM EDT
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2 questions 1 Will your piston rod fit / function thru a Adams Arms upper, I know the hole in the front of the A.A. upper is smaller. 2 Will we see a Rail on your front block????? I won't mount a front sight on a rail because it moves to much for me.
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Posted: 11/10/2014 7:53:57 PM EDT
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Skis on the bottom back end of the carrier. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How are you dealing with carrier tilt? Skis on the bottom back end of the carrier. With that in mind... any reason this would not be compatible with a Law Tactical Folding Stock Adapter? |
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Posted: 11/13/2014 6:24:56 PM EDT
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I have always considered making a left handed piston carrier. I have to research an patent that may have claim to it (more than likely Stag). If there is a patent I will work on negotiating an agreement. If not I will make some. Be patient. If there is a need to make an agreement it could take some time. With my experience those things do not happen overnight. I will announce any further updates, or you can email me for updates periodically. My email is [email protected]. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any chance of a Left handed bolt carrier? Please??????? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I have always considered making a left handed piston carrier. I have to research an patent that may have claim to it (more than likely Stag). If there is a patent I will work on negotiating an agreement. If not I will make some. Be patient. If there is a need to make an agreement it could take some time. With my experience those things do not happen overnight. I will announce any further updates, or you can email me for updates periodically. My email is [email protected]. Thank you very much Sir for considering it. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/13/2014 6:30:39 PM EDT
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Question still remains, will they be made in other sizes or is .750 it?
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Posted: 11/13/2014 7:00:55 PM EDT
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I had some problems with a Syrac DI adjustable gas block...the detent stopped 'detenting' because of the fouling making the detent ball stick in a retracted position. Looking at this piston gas block, it seems the detent is external to the gas block so it shouldn't have that kind of problem, right?
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Posted: 11/15/2014 8:28:31 PM EDT
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Will this fit under Aero Precision's Enhanced Keymod handguard?
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Posted: 11/24/2014 9:29:00 AM EDT
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Jason,
Any news on if this will fit the KMR yet? If not any new free float rails not listed on the 1st page? Happy Thanksgiving! |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 5:34:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We will have a Low Mass Carrier available by the end of the yr if not sooner. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I too have dumped my AA XLP kit. It was a pain to make it compatible with a my MI rail. I worry about how long it would keep running before issues with the rod bushing. Main reasons for switching over to this: 1. Compatibility! SO has a superior design. 2. WEIGHT. the AA XLP kit is heavy as shit. 3. 16 pos vs 5 pos. I tried the xlp on two of my rifles. One had to run wide open. Recoil was increased over my SO adjustable gas block. 4. Price. Jason, I already pre ordered as one of the first 100. I want to upgrade to NIB!!! PM me for my email! Also, is there a light weight carrier option? This will go on my santan upper and lower, i will post pics once I verify it is reliable. Thanks! We will have a Low Mass Carrier available by the end of the yr if not sooner. Came here to ask this!  |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 3:56:37 PM EDT
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Can't find any Youtube vids on the Syrac adjustable gas piston system
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Posted: 11/29/2014 4:59:25 PM EDT
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Can't find any Youtube vids on the Syrac adjustable gas piston system That's because they aren't even shipping yet. |
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Posted: 11/30/2014 6:40:09 PM EDT
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Do you think you can tell us the weight of the main parts separately?
I really want to keep the weight down on my gun :p. |
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Posted: 12/3/2014 3:46:50 PM EDT
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So Im assuming with the ability to adjust this system one could, in theory, fine tune a 300blk? Hmmmmm very interesting.
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Posted: 12/3/2014 4:19:48 PM EDT
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Will these be sold with a completed BCG as an option? Finding a standalone QPQ bolt has been troublesome.
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Do you think you can tell us the weight of the main parts separately? I really want to keep the weight down on my gun :p. From what I can tell, similar DI components in midlength would weight about 13.1oz. So the Piston system adds roughly 1.7oz to the front of your mid-gas rifle. |
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Posted: 12/3/2014 8:36:57 PM EDT
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Will these be sold with a completed BCG as an option? Finding a standalone QPQ bolt has been troublesome. From what I can tell, similar DI components in midlength would weight about 13.1oz. So the Piston system adds roughly 1.7oz to the front of your mid-gas rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Will these be sold with a completed BCG as an option? Finding a standalone QPQ bolt has been troublesome. Quoted:
Do you think you can tell us the weight of the main parts separately? I really want to keep the weight down on my gun :p. From what I can tell, similar DI components in midlength would weight about 13.1oz. So the Piston system adds roughly 1.7oz to the front of your mid-gas rifle. Which is why some of us are so interested in seeing if this works with the BCM KMR. Comparing the Noveske 13.5" NSR @ 11oz with barrel nut SLR 13" Solo Light @ 10oz with nut SLR 13" Solo Ultra Light at 9.0oz with nut or most of the "Normal" 13 keymod rails closer to 12+oz with barrel nut to the BCM 13" KMR at 7.7oz you can loose that extra weight really fast.... That said KMR aside, chances are if your really concerned about weight there are MANY other places you can loose an ounce or two to make up for it. Either way you cut it in my opinion this IS the piston system to own. |
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Posted: 12/3/2014 9:25:38 PM EDT
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I made a oops and ordered a carbine length instead of a mid-length; any chance that can be switched?
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Posted: 12/10/2014 10:48:26 PM EDT
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I spoke to Ben at Bravo on Friday. He is either sending me the internal dims. w/ tol. of the KMR or sending me a HG. If he is going to send me a HG I will pay to have it shipped next day to get you guys an answer ASAP. He said he would have me an answer to me tomorrow (Mon.). Once I receive his answer I will update the statues on this thread. I determine if it does/ doesn't fit them will notify here. Please be patient, I am on it. I want to know as bad as you guys do. Thank you.
Jason Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any news on if this fits under a BCM KMR? I spoke to Ben at Bravo on Friday. He is either sending me the internal dims. w/ tol. of the KMR or sending me a HG. If he is going to send me a HG I will pay to have it shipped next day to get you guys an answer ASAP. He said he would have me an answer to me tomorrow (Mon.). Once I receive his answer I will update the statues on this thread. I determine if it does/ doesn't fit them will notify here. Please be patient, I am on it. I want to know as bad as you guys do. Thank you.
Jason Update? |
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Posted: 12/11/2014 12:08:32 AM EDT
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Someone posted in Syrac's industry section that it worked with their KMR and posted picks.
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Posted: 12/15/2014 4:57:29 AM EDT
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What would be the best setup for 16" barrel in .300 blackout mostly in super, but may shoot subs too (no suppressor). Pistol or carbine length rod? Trying to figure if one or the other can be adjusted for both sub or super?...
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Posted: 12/15/2014 9:37:13 AM EDT
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You should pretty much always go with Pistol gas in 300BLK.
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Posted: 12/17/2014 2:27:53 PM EDT
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I posted earlier that the KMR, on the face of it, might not work.
I decided to use my dial calipers to find out My KMR 15 is ~1.350" ID. This means the bottom 1/2 extends down 0.675" from barrel centerline, so the 0.613" of the Syrac will work. The internal width of the top rail is 0.440", so the 0.410" of the Syrac will work. The internal height of the KMR is ~1.704" to 1.709". Subtract the 0.675" from this number and you are left with 1.029" to 1.034". This means the 0.986" of the Syrac will work. Based on Jason's drawing and my KMR, it looks like a go with his retro fit gas pistol. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 2:33:44 PM EDT
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I posted earlier that the KMR, on the face of it, might not work. I decided to use my dial calipers to find out My KMR 15 is ~1.350" ID. This means the bottom 1/2 extends down 0.675" from barrel centerline, so the 0.613" of the Syrac will work. The internal width of the top rail is 0.440", so the 0.410" of the Syrac will work. The internal height of the KMR is ~1.704" to 1.709". Subtract the 0.675" from this number and you are left with 1.029" to 1.034". This means the 0.986" of the Syrac will work. Based on Jason's drawing and my KMR, it looks like a go with his retro fit gas pistol. Great to hear! Thank you! |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 3:04:45 PM EDT
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Great to hear! Thank you! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I posted earlier that the KMR, on the face of it, might not work. I decided to use my dial calipers to find out My KMR 15 is ~1.350" ID. This means the bottom 1/2 extends down 0.675" from barrel centerline, so the 0.613" of the Syrac will work. The internal width of the top rail is 0.440", so the 0.410" of the Syrac will work. The internal height of the KMR is ~1.704" to 1.709". Subtract the 0.675" from this number and you are left with 1.029" to 1.034". This means the 0.986" of the Syrac will work. Based on Jason's drawing and my KMR, it looks like a go with his retro fit gas pistol. Great to hear! Thank you! You're welcome. The 0.015" clearance on either side for the gas block does not give you much room to be off. |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 5:32:34 PM EDT
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I keep going back and forth on whether or not to buy this. I already have a syrac adjustable gas block. Is there any reason to go with this piston, for my 6.8 spc, 7.5" SBR build, over a DI with adjustable gas block? I will not be shooting suppressed. I'd really only do it for the new cool factor as I don't own any piston guns yet.
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Posted: 12/20/2014 3:06:44 PM EDT
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I'm not sure if this has been reported yet but the Syrac kit is G2G with the Aero Precision M4E1 upper and handguards. I installed a pistol gas kit on my 7.5" 5.56 build and it runs great.
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Posted: 12/20/2014 6:16:50 PM EDT
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I'm not sure if this has been reported yet but the Syrac kit is G2G with the Aero Precision M4E1 upper and handguards. I installed a pistol gas kit on my 7.5" 5.56 build and it runs great. Good to know that it will work with the M4E1! Did you have any trouble with the piston binding in the gas block? |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 1:26:53 AM EDT
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This is good to know! I had ruled this out for my build because it specifically states on the aero precision web page that the m4e1 is NOT piston compatible. But now I might have to buy this set up as this was the one I wanted to begin with whether I went DI or piston, but wanted the option.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 11:40:43 AM EDT
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Good to know that it will work with the M4E1! Did you have any trouble with the piston binding in the gas block? I didn't experience any binding on my install. I only have about 50 rounds through it so far but I will be hitting the range again today. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 11:42:24 AM EDT
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This is good to know! I had ruled this out for my build because it specifically states on the aero precision web page that the m4e1 is NOT piston compatible. But now I might have to buy this set up as this was the one I wanted to begin with whether I went DI or piston, but wanted the option. That was before the Syrac kit came out and was probably based on the likes of the Adams Arms kit that relies on the barrel nut to set the spacing for the op rod spring bushing. |
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Posted: 1/3/2015 5:53:42 PM EDT
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We will have a Low Mass Carrier available by the end of the yr if not sooner. Any word on the low mass carrier? Also, can anyone make a video on this? Showing the weight of each part and such. This looks very promising, the only thing keeping my from piston systems was the weght and cost. This system is low weight and low cost. Thanks |
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Posted: 1/3/2015 9:39:34 PM EDT
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OK, I have a kit in the shop that I was planning a video review of. I just went down and shot an impromptu video. I weighed the parts and compared them to the weight of some DI parts. I ordered this a while ago but it was just delivered a couple of weeks ago. I just finished editing the video, it is now in the process of uploading to YouTube. I will post the link as soon as it is up on YouTube. It is 39% uploaded as I am typing this post.
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Posted: 1/3/2015 10:51:32 PM EDT
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OK, I have a kit in the shop that I was planning a video review of. I just went down and shot an impromptu video. I weighed the parts and compared them to the weight of some DI parts. I ordered this a while ago but it was just delivered a couple of weeks ago. I just finished editing the video, it is now in the process of uploading to YouTube. I will post the link as soon as it is up on YouTube. It is 39% uploaded as I am typing this post. mbell556 Nice! Thank you so much, please post the link/channel here when it's done! Thanks! |
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Posted: 1/3/2015 11:46:05 PM EDT
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Nice! Thank you so much, please post the link/channel here when it's done! Thanks! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OK, I have a kit in the shop that I was planning a video review of. I just went down and shot an impromptu video. I weighed the parts and compared them to the weight of some DI parts. I ordered this a while ago but it was just delivered a couple of weeks ago. I just finished editing the video, it is now in the process of uploading to YouTube. I will post the link as soon as it is up on YouTube. It is 39% uploaded as I am typing this post. mbell556 Nice! Thank you so much, please post the link/channel here when it's done! Thanks! Here is the link. Took a while to upload and process on YouTube. Still not completely processed but it looks like it is viewable. http://youtu.be/Tcs1NxRasLg I will use it in a build and then review how it functions as well. Thanks! Mike mbell556 on YouTube |
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Posted: 1/4/2015 2:15:10 PM EDT
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I like mine. Once tuned it is very soft shooting for a piston system. I do not notice the piston snap felt in other systems. I have mine tuned at 8 clicks out from fully closed. I am running a 2.25 OZ tungsten buffer and a carbine spring with a medium brake(yhm phantom). My only complaint is that Syrac did not come out with the low mass or NIB carrier like they said they would...... Overall I am pleased with the system. It is much better than the XLP kit. I tried both.
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Posted: 1/4/2015 9:47:56 PM EDT
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I have a few questions about the carrier that comes with Syrac kit:
1) Can you use a bolt from an Adams Arms piston carrier or do you need one with gas rings installed? Sorry for the newb question 2) Do you have to use a spring with the bolt and carrier like on the Adams Arms piston system, if so does the Syrac kit come with it? 3) Is their any issue using the Syrac Kit with an Adams Arms upper receiver such as the dimension of the hole for the op rod? I tried to find this info on the site and in this thread but I did not see it. |
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Posted: 1/4/2015 10:52:56 PM EDT
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I have a few questions about the carrier that comes with Syrac kit: 1) Can you use a bolt from an Adams Arms piston carrier or do you need one with gas rings installed? Sorry for the newb question 2) Do you have to use a spring with the bolt and carrier like on the Adams Arms piston system, if so does the Syrac kit come with it? 3) Is their any issue using the Syrac Kit with an Adams Arms upper receiver such as the dimension of the hole for the op rod? I tried to find this info on the site and in this thread but I did not see it. I can help you out with 1 and 3. 1) No, you cannot use the AA carrier. That carrier has a flat strike face. Syrac uses a genius dome shape design. No gas rings, per every other piston system out there (i think) 3) AA uses a small busing in the upper, it allows the op rod to slide through this. Though, the gas tube also fits in this bushing so it does not make a difference. |
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Posted: 1/4/2015 11:00:04 PM EDT
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I can help you out with 1 and 3. 1) No, you cannot use the AA carrier. That carrier has a flat strike face. Syrac uses a genius dome shape design. No gas rings, per every other piston system out there (i think) 3) AA uses a small busing in the upper, it allows the op rod to slide through this. Though, the gas tube also fits in this bushing so it does not make a difference. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a few questions about the carrier that comes with Syrac kit: 1) Can you use a bolt from an Adams Arms piston carrier or do you need one with gas rings installed? Sorry for the newb question 2) Do you have to use a spring with the bolt and carrier like on the Adams Arms piston system, if so does the Syrac kit come with it? 3) Is their any issue using the Syrac Kit with an Adams Arms upper receiver such as the dimension of the hole for the op rod? I tried to find this info on the site and in this thread but I did not see it. I can help you out with 1 and 3. 1) No, you cannot use the AA carrier. That carrier has a flat strike face. Syrac uses a genius dome shape design. No gas rings, per every other piston system out there (i think) 3) AA uses a small busing in the upper, it allows the op rod to slide through this. Though, the gas tube also fits in this bushing so it does not make a difference. Thank you. On #1 I was referring to the bolt from the Adams Arms BCG, not the actual carrier itself. |
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Posted: 1/4/2015 11:08:25 PM EDT
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Thank you. On #1 I was referring to the bolt from the Adams Arms BCG, not the actual carrier itself. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a few questions about the carrier that comes with Syrac kit: 1) Can you use a bolt from an Adams Arms piston carrier or do you need one with gas rings installed? Sorry for the newb question 2) Do you have to use a spring with the bolt and carrier like on the Adams Arms piston system, if so does the Syrac kit come with it? 3) Is their any issue using the Syrac Kit with an Adams Arms upper receiver such as the dimension of the hole for the op rod? I tried to find this info on the site and in this thread but I did not see it. I can help you out with 1 and 3. 1) No, you cannot use the AA carrier. That carrier has a flat strike face. Syrac uses a genius dome shape design. No gas rings, per every other piston system out there (i think) 3) AA uses a small busing in the upper, it allows the op rod to slide through this. Though, the gas tube also fits in this bushing so it does not make a difference. Thank you. On #1 I was referring to the bolt from the Adams Arms BCG, not the actual carrier itself. Ooo in that case yes, they all use 5.56 bolts. Non-proprietary. I am pretty sure Syrac doesn't use a spring on the bolt per the video posted above. |
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Posted: 1/4/2015 11:20:41 PM EDT
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Awesome. Thank you.
Now I need to sale my Adams Arms XLP that is arriving in the mail tomorrow 
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